AlienSlof Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Let's keep this civil or the topic will be locked. AS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timihendrix91 Posted August 28, 2008 Author Share Posted August 28, 2008 I don't see anyone being uncivil. I jus wanted to see where the people in this forum stand. If someone can't keep an open mind and be civil in a political discussion, that person should probably not participate in any debates at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddemix Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Personally, I'm voting for Obama. But, whatever "side" we choose, what is most important is that we actually vote, that we participate in the process, and not backslide into jaded apathy. Don't waste the opportunity, you know? Stand up for something. My two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humanbean234 Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I don't see anyone being uncivil. I jus wanted to see where the people in this forum stand. If someone can't keep an open mind and be civil in a political discussion, that person should probably not participate in any debates at all. Nobody was, Timi, though AlienSlof made a slight edit to my post to remove a bit of humor that she may have thought was directed at someone in particular (it wasn't). The purpose of my jibe was identical to her input; to remind people that arguments serve little purpose other than to inflame tempers, and discourage people from getting involved in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timihendrix91 Posted August 28, 2008 Author Share Posted August 28, 2008 Oh, okay. Well, whatever. haha But, whatever "side" we choose, what is most important is that we actually vote, that we participate in the process, and not backslide into jaded apathy. Don't waste the opportunity, you know? Stand up for something.I agree, although I think people making uninformed votes are worse than people just not voting. Like, people not voting for Obama because "he's a Muslim", or people not voting for McCain because of his age. Stuff like that bothers me a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michlo Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Alas, I've heard of folks who are life-long Democrats saying they'll vote for McCain before a black man. It is very sad. I wish it were more like my home country. Back there we vote for the party, NOT the person. The person really isn't that important and could even be gone soon after the party is elected. Over here it is a huge popularity contest and the contenders have to be ridiculously wealthy. Not a fair system at all. Oh and don't me started on the electoral vote vs. popular vote! :wallbash: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brainrazer Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Vote Nader(lol) it's finally his chance!!! ;D ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timihendrix91 Posted August 29, 2008 Author Share Posted August 29, 2008 Over here it is a huge popularity contest and the contenders have to be ridiculously wealthy. Not a fair system at all.How so? Sure, you need to have money t0 pay for your campaign, but that isn't asking much. Also, iirc, each candidate can take public funds, which I believe are like $60 million dollars or so. I'm probably not right on some of the specifics, but it is something like that. Vote Nader(lol) it's finally his chance!!!You'd might as well just throw away your vote...:P Just kidding. I did tell that to this guy i know who voted for Ron Paul in the Republican primaries though, haha. I never got the underground following that he got. Is it just because he believes that American Union theory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michlo Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Over here it is a huge popularity contest and the contenders have to be ridiculously wealthy. Not a fair system at all.How so? Sure, you need to have money t0 pay for your campaign, but that isn't asking much. Also, iirc, each candidate can take public funds, which I believe are like $60 million dollars or so. I'm probably not right on some of the specifics, but it is something like that. Vote Nader(lol) it's finally his chance!!!You'd might as well just throw away your vote... :P Just kidding. I did tell that to this guy i know who voted for Ron Paul in the Republican primaries though, haha. I never got the underground following that he got. Is it just because he believes that American Union theory? They are only allowed to take a certain amount which is why Hillary had to lend her campaign about $12m from her own pocket. They spend so much on TV ads and the like these days that the person who can't just raise it from campaigning is doomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timihendrix91 Posted August 29, 2008 Author Share Posted August 29, 2008 They are only allowed to take a certain amount which is why Hillary had to lend her campaign about $12m from her own pocket. They spend so much on TV ads and the like these days that the person who can't just raise it from campaigning is doomed.Maybe if they're just using public funds, but you can take in more through private donations. Obama, for example, has taken in $300 million dollars just from small personal donations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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