NPC started to aggro at me after installing FNIS PCEA2

[Eviltaria]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/215804929237843968/526411120043360276/unknown.png?width=827&height=466 most if not all r quite aggressive on me how to fix this? or whats causing this my recent installations are FNIS PCEA2/elegant flying animations and elsif the fair marraiable. im just going to add this here i have FNIS.esp it might b conflicting maybe but it says no conflicts that can be detected

 

EDIT: it seems after starting a new game its still there idk which mods that did this any idea or what to do solve this problem

Edited December 23, 2018 by Eviltaria

[HadToRegister]

All FNIS does is change animations, it has nothing to do with NPCs aggroing you and couldn't cause it

[WakahisaSensei]

I'd recommend posting your load order. It's most likely a mod is in the wrong place. I had a similar thing occur a long time ago where once I aggo'd an npc they would stay that way regardless of my distance from them or time. It was ultimately a load order issue. As HadToRegister said, this can't be caused by FNIS or FNIS PCEA. It simply wouldn't make sense on a technical level. It's more likely there is an underlying problem and it just happened to trigger around the same time as you installing FNIS PCEA. Either that, or you installed FNIS PCEA in the most insane way ever, which I highly doubt.

[Eviltaria]

I'd recommend posting your load order. It's most likely a mod is in the wrong place. I had a similar thing occur a long time ago where once I aggo'd an npc they would stay that way regardless of my distance from them or time. It was ultimately a load order issue. As HadToRegister said, this can't be caused by FNIS or FNIS PCEA. It simply wouldn't make sense on a technical level. It's more likely there is an underlying problem and it just happened to trigger around the same time as you installing FNIS PCEA. Either that, or you installed FNIS PCEA in the most insane way ever, which I highly doubt.

Edited December 24, 2018 by Eviltaria

[Eviltaria]

 

I'd recommend posting your load order. It's most likely a mod is in the wrong place. I had a similar thing occur a long time ago where once I aggo'd an npc they would stay that way regardless of my distance from them or time. It was ultimately a load order issue. As HadToRegister said, this can't be caused by FNIS or FNIS PCEA. It simply wouldn't make sense on a technical level. It's more likely there is an underlying problem and it just happened to trigger around the same time as you installing FNIS PCEA. Either that, or you installed FNIS PCEA in the most insane way ever, which I highly doubt.

i did it all manually so i didnt use any mod management before i uninstalled everything n started fresh to try the mod manager but it does not work do i have to create a folder inside the skyrim ? i started the game n went to data file on its launcher but it seems that all the mods from this site isnt showing up but in vortex it did say enabled

 

[WakahisaSensei]

 

 

I'd recommend posting your load order. It's most likely a mod is in the wrong place. I had a similar thing occur a long time ago where once I aggo'd an npc they would stay that way regardless of my distance from them or time. It was ultimately a load order issue. As HadToRegister said, this can't be caused by FNIS or FNIS PCEA. It simply wouldn't make sense on a technical level. It's more likely there is an underlying problem and it just happened to trigger around the same time as you installing FNIS PCEA. Either that, or you installed FNIS PCEA in the most insane way ever, which I highly doubt.

i did it all manually so i didnt use any mod management before i uninstalled everything n started fresh to try the mod manager but it does not work do i have to create a folder inside the skyrim ? i started the game n went to data file on its launcher but it seems that all the mods from this site isnt showing up but in vortex it did say enabled

 

 

When you say you "uninstalled everything" does that include skyrim itself? Uninstalling mods is usually a bad idea. Mods always leave a permanent mark. If your very careful you can minimize the effect when uninstalling, but even so a tiny mark will always be there. Most times the only cure for problems caused by uninstalling mods is a complete reinstall of the game.

 

I have, however, heard that Mod Organizer 2 allows someone to delete mods due to the nature of how it works. I use Mod Organizer 2 myself but I'm not in the habit of deleting mods so I can't confirm. i do know it has a slightly higher learning curve than other mod organizers. Mod Organizer 2 has the benefit that it runs the mods (and installs them) in a separate folder from the game files. The catch is that you must launch all/most of the tools from the Mod Organizer program (which can be daunting at first). But it comes with a nice tutorial on how to do things and youtube can help with things not covered by its own tutorial. I highly recommend it if you have the time to learn it.

 

Now in your case I have three guesses.

1. This sounds like it might be the result of either incorrect installation of a mod (I.E. lacking requirements)

2. Load order (which is still an issue regardless of mod management software or not). The order mods load is VERY important. 90% of problems are mod conflicts or load order. or the result of deleting one too many mods.

3. The mods you deleted left a mark that is causing internal conflict within the game. You can try cleaning it, but that will only delay the inevitable. I recommend reinstalling Skyrim if that's the case. It's a pain, but in my early modding days I made a lot of mistakes. I'm currently on my 9th install of skyrim. However, it works perfectly now with a significant number of complex and intensive mods. I still get the occasional crash, but that's probably because I like to push my luck.

 

When using a mod manager you should not have to create a folder within the Skyrim directory (as far as I know. I've only used NMM and MO2). There are certain things, however, that do need to be installed in the Skyrim directory for certain mods to work, such as SKSE (the script extender). With some mod managers I found it useful to install FNIS directly into Skyrim as well, but after switching to MO2 that's no longer necessary for me.

 

If you can give me more detail on your process, what you deleted and how, etc. I might be able to assist more. But starting fresh might be a good idea.

 

Also let me know which of the following you do and do not have:

1. SKSE (Should be installed exactly as the readme that comes with it instructs. Also, remember to launch your game from SKSE.exe and not the Skyrim launcher or TES5.exe)

2. LOOT (Sorts your load order for you. Not perfect, but really good.)

3. Wyre Bash (Can create a bash patch which, as far as I understand, helps certain mods work better with each other.) It can also tell you which files might need cleaning.

4. Tes5Edit (Very useful for showing mod conflicts and cleaning files). Cleaning skyrim and its DLC game files can be pretty important. Bethesda left a lot of dirty edits in their game. Without using mods, the presents no problem. When you introduce mods, this can cause some problems. Ultimately cleaning the fiiles with Tes5edit can make things much more stable. It's also a very easy process and there is a good youtube tutorial by someone with the username "gopher" that gives a step by step guide on cleaning files.

 

I think those are all the tools I should ask for without knowing any further info. I'm also assuming you have the FNIS tool, and not trying to use FNIS PCEA without it. (But I've been surprised before.)

Edited December 24, 2018 by WakahisaSensei

[Eviltaria]

I'd recommend posting your load order. It's most likely a mod is in the wrong place. I had a similar thing occur a long time ago where once I aggo'd an npc they would stay that way regardless of my distance from them or time. It was ultimately a load order issue. As HadToRegister said, this can't be caused by FNIS or FNIS PCEA. It simply wouldn't make sense on a technical level. It's more likely there is an underlying problem and it just happened to trigger around the same time as you installing FNIS PCEA. Either that, or you installed FNIS PCEA in the most insane way ever, which I highly doubt.

ye uninstalled skyrim itself figured that may remove everything inc mods etc. ive actually started using vortex installed mods inc the ones on steam workshop. here is my current plugin/mod but as for starting the game it wont load anymore after i added things on nexus mod it was working before with steam ones. do u have discord might b better so i can show u screenshots of vortex mod/plugin idk how to attach a pic

Edited December 24, 2018 by Eviltaria

[WakahisaSensei]

I don't know much about vortex. I also can't see your plugin list. I need to know specifically which tools you use aside from vortex. Let me know precisely which of the above mentioned tools you do and do not have. I can't help with vortex though. Ideally I'd recommend switching to MO2 over vortex but it can be a little tough to get used to, but the benefits once you get it going are worth it.

 

Also, are you running vortex in administrator mode? If not there's a chance it's not applying the mods properly because your system is blocking it (something that probably wouldn't happen with steam mods). Try running vortex in administrator mode and then launching SKSE (also in administrator mode) and see if it helps. Windows OS is annoying when it comes to permissions. Skyrim modding would be so much easier if it ran on Mac or Linux.

Edited December 24, 2018 by WakahisaSensei

[Eviltaria]

I don't know much about vortex. I also can't see your plugin list. I need to know specifically which tools you use aside from vortex. Let me know precisely which of the above mentioned tools you do and do not have. I can't help with vortex though. Ideally I'd recommend switching to MO2 over vortex but it can be a little tough to get used to, but the benefits once you get it going are worth it.

 

Also, are you running vortex in administrator mode? If not there's a chance it's not applying the mods properly because your system is blocking it (something that probably wouldn't happen with steam mods). Try running vortex in administrator mode and then launching SKSE (also in administrator mode) and see if it helps. Windows OS is annoying when it comes to permissions. Skyrim modding would be so much easier if it ran on Mac or Linux.

got it working with no gliches or bugs it seems some mods were dirty/ conflicting with each other like u said had to reinstall sky UI since it was crashing the game. used loot and TES thx for giving me ideas on the problem took me 6 hours to do trial and error lol

[WakahisaSensei]

 

I don't know much about vortex. I also can't see your plugin list. I need to know specifically which tools you use aside from vortex. Let me know precisely which of the above mentioned tools you do and do not have. I can't help with vortex though. Ideally I'd recommend switching to MO2 over vortex but it can be a little tough to get used to, but the benefits once you get it going are worth it.

 

Also, are you running vortex in administrator mode? If not there's a chance it's not applying the mods properly because your system is blocking it (something that probably wouldn't happen with steam mods). Try running vortex in administrator mode and then launching SKSE (also in administrator mode) and see if it helps. Windows OS is annoying when it comes to permissions. Skyrim modding would be so much easier if it ran on Mac or Linux.

got it working with no gliches or bugs it seems some mods were dirty/ conflicting with each other like u said had to reinstall sky UI since it was crashing the game. used loot and TES thx for giving me ideas on the problem took me 6 hours to do trial and error lol

 

It can be that way at times. I had two reinstalls before I realized it wasn't a mod, but my ENB settings giving me trouble.