PharmakosChroster Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 There is one more bit of evidence, I think. Dragons, being immortal, are not capable of comprehending the Dragonrend Shout. Dragonrend was invented by mortals, could only be invented by mortals, and can only be understood by mortals. When you learn Dragonrend, note that you do not have to spend any dragon souls to unlock it, but you are able to understand it immediately upon hearing it. How can this be unless you are mortal? Your mortality gives you an instinctive understanding of the concepts expressed by Dragonrend, with no need to draw that understanding from any outside source. No dragon soul contains that understanding, and there is no need for a Greybeard to share his knowledge because you already have the knowledge of mortality within you. Unless, of course, the Dovahkiin is an avatar of Talos. We know from Morrowind that Talos is capable of creating, and willing to create, an avatar in the form of Wulf. Why would Tsun allow the Dragonborn into Shor's Hall unless the Dragonborn was dead, a divinity, or both? Why does the ghost at the Old Hroldan Inn recognize you as Tiber Septim? And Talos can do whatever the hell he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsmanners Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 All the Dragonborns are ritualistically bestowed the title of Ysmir (by the greybeards), so it makes sense that mystical people would confuse one Dragonborn and another. There may be something to it, or not. I think the Dragonborn is that combination of mortal and immortal that makes for good prophesy. It makes for a truly epic story, and that's what Bethesda writers were shooting for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dovahkiin069 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 There is one more bit of evidence, I think. Dragons, being immortal, are not capable of comprehending the Dragonrend Shout. Dragonrend was invented by mortals, could only be invented by mortals, and can only be understood by mortals. When you learn Dragonrend, note that you do not have to spend any dragon souls to unlock it, but you are able to understand it immediately upon hearing it. How can this be unless you are mortal? Your mortality gives you an instinctive understanding of the concepts expressed by Dragonrend, with no need to draw that understanding from any outside source. No dragon soul contains that understanding, and there is no need for a Greybeard to share his knowledge because you already have the knowledge of mortality within you. Unless, of course, the Dovahkiin is an avatar of Talos. We know from Morrowind that Talos is capable of creating, and willing to create, an avatar in the form of Wulf. Why would Tsun allow the Dragonborn into Shor's Hall unless the Dragonborn was dead, a divinity, or both? Why does the ghost at the Old Hroldan Inn recognize you as Tiber Septim? And Talos can do whatever the hell he wants.Tsun let Dragonborn enter in Shor's Hall because he is the only one capable of defeating Alduin,and because it was his fate/destiny to kill Alduin, and he would not be able to complete his destiny without the help from the Old Nord Heroes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enatiomorph Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 (edited) No, DB are not immortal. Edited July 27, 2012 by Enatiomorph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RighthandofSithis Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 No, DB are not immortal. Uriel Septim VII sure wasn't. :biggrin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaedalusMachina Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 There are several different Dragonborns, some of them even appeared at the same time. Dragonborn means nothing more than having dragon blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidsky Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 You are immortal because everytime you think you died, you magically reappear (reload) to an earlier time. You have to decide to die to stay dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enatiomorph Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 No, DB are not immortal. Uriel Septim VII sure wasn't. :biggrin:Neither was Al-Esh, Reman, or any other DB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PharmakosChroster Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 No, DB are not immortal. Uriel Septim VII sure wasn't. :biggrin:Neither was Al-Esh, Reman, or any other DB. Tiber Septim was. Is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsmanners Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Tiber Septim was. Is. If you mean in the mundane sense, then you would be incorrect (at least, according to a certain Imperial Historian). On Tiber's death, it rained for an entire fortnight as if the land of Tamriel itself was weeping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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