Better Vampires mod - Black spots on face w/ Sun Visual Effect

[foxd33]

Hello,

I'm trying to get the 'Sun Visual Effect' found in the Better Vampires mod to work properly. This is a known issue that is apparently a bug in Skyrim caused by having make-up or face tint-masks before becoming a Vampire. I've tried removing all make-up from my character, then becoming a Vampire again, but I still get the visual glitch of black spots appearing mostly on the face, and some harder to see ones on the body.

The spots I'm referring to kind of look like this basically:
https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/5566602-black-spots-as-vampire/

Since removing make-up from my character did not work, I'm assuming I have some mod that applies tint-masks that is causing the glitch. I thought maybe it would be Fairskin, or CBBE, but reinstalling them without tints/make-up didn't seem to work. Maybe someone who has a greater understanding can pin-point the cause?

 

Also, this is a link to the mod author's site describing the cause of the issue:

https://sites.google.com/site/bettervampires/faq/any-question-about-appearance

I have quite a long mod list, but I don't think many of them are relevant to this problem:
(I can't figure out how to make a Show/Hide button)

 

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Thanks for any helperings.

Edited March 25, 2019 by foxd33

[Deleted58783396User]

CharacterMakingExtender (Enhanced Character Edit) - includes highres makeup tintmasks <-- this mod i believe may be causing the issue (i have never run it myself however)

CBBE - Includes an option for highres makeup tintmasks <-- i run CBBE but have never experienced your issue (However i never select the optional for makeup so that may be why)

Face Light Plus - Potentional Conflict ? (based on the fact it affacts the face funnily enough, might be conflicting with said vampire effect)

to create hide and show, aka Spoiler tags do the following:

[*spoiler]Mod List[*/spoiler]

Note: Remove the Asteriks to create Spoiler Tags :wink:

Note: you can also turn of Vampire visual Affects in Better Vampires MCM Menu.

Note: all 3 mods i listed are the Potential Conflicts based on the fact they all affect the Face where said issue is, however i have personally turned of all vampire visual affects regarding sun damage etc etc, so i have never experienced this issue personally i also personally run several facial mods for my females, which consists of Highres Makeup tintmasks and Highres Warpaints and Scars, and have never experienced this issue but as said i disabled all Vampire Visual Effects in Better Vampires MCM Menu.

[foxd33]

I decided it doesn't make much sense for npc's to ignore my slightly crispy/smokey character anyway. I really do like the effect though, seeing how it looks pretty realistic. But I guess I'm tired of mod troubleshooting for hours when I could instead be playing. Anyway, thanks for the reply. I didn't see an option for makeup tintmasks in the fomod for ECE and gave up. I thought for sure that it must be Fair Skin Complexion, and removed all the tintmasks from the 'character assets' folder, but nothing.

 

I don't really consider disabling an enjoyed feature from a mod that you love to be the best solution, but I suppose it still is a solution. Thanks again for taking the time to look through that list of esp's and try to find a solution... Though now that I think about it, perhaps I should have posted the actual modlist instead of only plugins.txt...

Edited March 25, 2019 by foxd33

[Deleted58783396User]

i see you have racecompatability, which means you are most likely playing as a custom race, which would likely include its own tintmasks in a different location to the default vanilla.

 

i cant see what race you are using however.

 

let us know what race and i can check it out to assist in where its assests will be located if needed.

[foxd33]

I'm actually just a filthy Imperial. No pride no shame :smile:. I also have other 'Total Character Mackeover', if that has any tintmasks. I assumed Fair Skin would overwrite anything to do with skin since I have it at highest priority though.

 

This is what it looks like in my game. Only appears at certain angles when rotating camera:

 

 

 

 

Edited March 29, 2019 by foxd33

[Deleted58783396User]

Total character makeover does indeed include tintmasks for every single race, as well as vampire.

 

said mod seems to do more then what other Body + Face texture mods do.

 

it really depends on what order you installed both mods (you would have got dialogue boxes asking you to overwrite the files from 1 mod with the other)

[foxd33]

With mod organizer it doesn't tell you if you are overwriting files from another mod during installation. It does however tell you after the fact via (-) or (+) symbols. Better Vampires doesn't show any conflict between any mods, only XPMSSE. I could try removing the vampire tintmasks from Total Character Makeover? Would anyone have an idea which folder those would be stored in? I could probably just guess, but it would be nice to be sure.

 

-- Update

 

I believe i found them in the actors>character>female folder called "femaleheadvampire.dds" and "femaleheadvampire_msn.dds." Removing them did nothing. My guess is that I have so many mods that add tintmasks that if I remove one, then the next one in line just takes its place. Would probably take forever to find and remove all of them. Thanks for the help and quick replies regardless :smile: .

Edited March 30, 2019 by foxd33

[Deleted58783396User]

ah you have Mod Organizer, that is probably an issue in itself. an issue i can not help with. i know specific mods do not work properly when installed on a virtual drive rather then Skyrim's Own Data Folder.

 

thats pretty bad design if it does not let you overwrite files between 2 mods. unknown how it works, but that would most likely make conflicts a much bigger and more likely issue.

 

which leads me to believe you probably would not even have this issue, if all of your mods were installed via another mod manager, or manually, both leading to Skyrim's Data folder.

[foxd33]

ah you have Mod Organizer, that is probably an issue in itself. an issue i can not help with. i know specific mods do not work properly when installed on a virtual drive rather then Skyrim's Own Data Folder.

 

thats pretty bad design if it does not let you overwrite files between 2 mods. unknown how it works, but that would most likely make conflicts a much bigger and more likely issue.

 

which leads me to believe you probably would not even have this issue, if all of your mods were installed via another mod manager, or manually, both leading to Skyrim's Data folder.

 

Uhh, no. It's actually the exact same thing as installing mods manually into the Skyrim data folder. It does tell you if mods are overwriting each other - you may need to reread what I said.

[Boonlive]

the problem is the subsurface scattering. i have the same problem using enb when i turn subsurface scattering off the black pixels/ spots dissappearing. i wonder if there is any fix out there