VillainousEater Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 My game freezes completely randomly, not near any specific place or cell. Completely random.If I try to wait it out, the music and sounds keep playing until they reach the end of the loop, after which nothing happens.I can only see the desktop by using CTRL + Alt + Delete, but even then, my computer won't react and I have to exit from the user to prompt Windows to ask me if I want to close the necessary programs.I have SKSE64, I use Nexus Mod Manager (not Vortex), and LOOT. My specs: Processor: Intel® Core i5-4460 CPU @ 3.20GHz Video Card: Intel® HD Graphics 4600 Video Card #2: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950 RAM: 12 GB Operating System: Windows 7 My load order: 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp 6 6 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 7 7 Campfire.esm 8 8 RE_RealEstate_Core.esp 9 9 Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul - Skyrim.esp 10 a 3DNPC.esp Qw_3DNPC_USSEP Patch.esp 11 b Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp 12 c NSUTR_bugfixes.esp 13 d NSUTR_groundsnow_mesh_fixes.esp 14 e ELFX - Exteriors.esp 15 f SkyUI_SE.esp 16 10 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp254 FE 0 Qw_ISC_USSEP Patch.esp 17 11 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 18 12 Book Covers Skyrim.esp 19 13 Cutting Room Floor.esp254 FE 1 Qw_BookCoversSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp 20 14 Joy of Perspective.esp 21 15 BetterQuestObjectives.esp 22 16 BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp 23 17 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 24 18 BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp 25 19 BetterQuestObjectives - BCS Patch.esp 26 1a ELFX - Weathers.esp 27 1b Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 28 1c Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 29 1d Immersive Wenches.esp254 FE 2 How Hard Is This Persuasion Check.esp 30 1e dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp 31 1f ArgonianFins.esp 32 20 HornsAreForever.esp 33 21 Improved Eyes Skyrim - Serana.esp 34 22 Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp 35 23 Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp 36 24 Khajiit_Eyes_Extended.esp 37 25 Warpaints&Skins+.esp 38 26 Believable Crime Report Radius.esp 39 27 CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp 40 28 CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp 41 29 Character Creation Overhaul.esp 42 2a FasterHorses.esp 43 2b No NPC Greetings.esp 44 2c Proper Aiming.esp 45 2d Realistic-Voice.esp 46 2e When Vampires Attack.esp 47 2f FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp 48 30 tpos_ultimate_esm.esp 49 31 AK - Placeable Statics SE.esp 50 32 Snazzy Furniture and Clutter Overhaul.esp 51 33 Immersive Jewelry.esp 52 34 DigitigradeKhajiit+ArgonianRaptor.esp 53 35 WeightLessLegacyAll.esp 54 36 No Essential Npcs.esp 55 37 BlackthornManor.esp 56 38 YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp 57 39 OBIS SE.esp 58 3a RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 59 3b Man Those Borders!.esp 60 3c mrbs-uniqueloot-se.esp 61 3d RE_RealEstate.esp 62 3e ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp 63 3f WeightLessTrueIngredients.esp 64 40 Day Night City Lights.esp 65 41 Point The Way.esp 66 42 Immersive Music.esp 67 43 Black Mage Armor SE.esp 68 44 ColovianFurClothes.esp 69 45 ColovianNobleClothes.esp 70 46 ImperialFineClothes.esp 71 47 sandboxcylinderheight.esp 72 48 Perk Points and More Gold for Bounty Quests.esp 73 49 BarenziahQuestMarkers_Droppable.esp 74 4a WeightLessLegacyDragonParts.esp 75 4b WeightLessLegacyPickAxe.esp 76 4c WeightLessLegacyPotions.esp 77 4d WeightLessLegacyScrolls.esp 78 4e WeightLessTrueSoulGems.esp 79 4f WeightLessLegacySoulgems.esp 80 50 WeightLessTrueScrolls.esp 81 51 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 82 52 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 83 53 Immersive Weapons.esp 84 54 Hott Argonians - Standalone.esp 85 55 Drachis Argonian Eyes.esp 86 56 Ruby Red Vampire Eyes - Beast Race Support.esp 87 57 Master of Disguise - Special Edition.esp 88 58 Crime Overhaul.esp 89 59 Hunters Not Bandits.esp 90 5a TheChoiceIsYours.esp 91 5b ImmersiveCityGates.esp 92 5c Keep It Clean.esp 93 5d Dogs-of-Skyrim.esp 94 5e ThiefEyes_SSE.esp 95 5f BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp 96 60 Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp 97 61 Cloaks.esp 98 62 FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp 99 63 GuildStarter.esp100 64 Tentapalooza.esp101 65 HeljarchenFarm.esp102 66 Improved Adoptions.esp103 67 Afterlife.esp104 68 Improved Adoptions DLC houses.esp105 69 AskTheWay.esp106 6a BecomeABard.esp107 6b Immersive Patrols II.esp108 6c Inigo.esp109 6d HearthCraft.esp110 6e WeightLessLegacyBYOH.esp111 6f Bring Out Your Dead.esp112 70 Tomebound.esp113 71 Hunterborn.esp114 72 Frostfall.esp115 73 MoreWerewolves.esp116 74 CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp SFCO - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp117 75 RNAD_FF_Patch.esp118 76 Skyhighrim.esp Skyrim.esp119 77 Storefront.esp120 78 Real Estate USSEP Patch.esp121 79 CUYC_CleanUpYourCorpses.esp122 7a Drinking Fountains of Skyrim for SSE.esp123 7b Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp124 7c Drugs Expanded.esp125 7d SFCO - CRF Patch.esp126 7e SFCO - ELFX Patch.esp127 7f RAO - ELFX Patch.esp128 80 Cannabis Skyrim SE.esp254 FE 3 No Snow Under The Roof - CRF Patch.esp129 81 Convenient Carriages.esp130 82 Sneak Tools.esp131 83 DestructibleDisplayCases.esp132 84 dynamic fires.esp133 85 Runandwalkpaces.esp134 86 ImperialSoldiersEscortFix.esp135 87 _001_SelfFillingBookshelves.esp136 88 Skoombag - Make Some Skooma!.esp137 89 TakeNotes.esp138 8a ThiefEyes_SSE-BookChance100.esp139 8b YourMarketStall.esp140 8c Insignificant Object Remover.esp141 8d Simple Enchant Restriction Remover - All SE.esp142 8e AddPerkPoints.esp143 8f MonsterEyes.esp144 90 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-L3.esp145 91 Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp146 92 Real Feeding V3.esp147 93 50 More Perk Points.esp148 94 Brujoloco-nighteyepatch.esp149 95 MoreThievingReward.esp150 96 WeightLessTrueGems.esp151 97 Dark Face Bug Fix.esp152 98 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp153 99 NPCProtectionTweaks.esp154 9a Footprints.esp155 9b Unique Uniques.esp156 9c DiverseWerewolvesCollection_MoonlightTales.esp157 9d Blindfolds_of_Skyrim.esp158 9e wizDynamicThings.esp159 9f Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp160 a0 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp161 a1 CWneutral.esp162 a2 restoration_spell resurrect.esp163 a3 EasySkooma.esp164 a4 FasterCasting.esp165 a5 JoP - Immersive Armors Patch.esp166 a6 MountsInventory.esp167 a7 imp_helm_legend.esp168 a8 BetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.esp169 a9 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp170 aa TheEyesOfBeauty.esp171 ab BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp172 ac Saeri_Khajiit_Hair.esp173 ad BRB_BeastRaceBodypaints.esp174 ae FNIS.esp175 af Perk Points at Skill Levels 50-75-100.esp176 b0 VioLens SE.esp177 b1 DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp178 b2 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp179 b3 RichMerchantsSkyrim_x10.esp180 b4 TCIY_BCS Patch.esp181 b5 TCIY BCS Patch.esp182 b6 Cloaks&Capes.esp183 b7 WetandCold.esp184 b8 Whistle.esp185 b9 ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp186 ba Better Vampires.esp187 bb Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp254 FE 4 Qw_CloaksOfSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp254 FE 5 Qw_CloaksAndCapes_CRF Patch.esp188 bc Predator Vision.esp189 bd DarkerNights.esp190 be Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp191 bf Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp192 c0 Drinking Fountains of Skyrim for SSE - RND Patch.esp193 c1 CannibalBrujoRND.esp194 c2 InigoPerkPointGiver.esp195 c3 RaceMenu.esp196 c4 RaceMenuPlugin.esp197 c5 XPMSE.esp198 c6 ScrimshawExpanded.esp199 c7 HB-WL-CraftableLanternOilPatch.esp200 c8 Keep it Clean - Hunterborn Soaps Patch.esp201 c9 Hunterborn - Soups and Stews.esp202 ca Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp203 cb Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp204 cc Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp205 cd Apocalypse - Cheat Chests.esp206 ce Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp207 cf Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp208 d0 SFCO - Alternate Start Patch.esp209 d1 RAO - Alternate Start Patch.esp210 d2 tpos_altstart_02.esp211 d3 BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp212 d4 YOT - Frostfall Module.esp213 d5 YOT - Wearable Lanterns.esp214 d6 YOT - Moonlight Tales Overhaul.esp215 d7 YOT - Cutting Room Floor.esp216 d8 YOT - Ordinator.esp217 d9 YOT - Apocalypse.esp218 da YOT - Imperious.esp219 db Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp220 dc ELFX - Hardcore.esp221 dd YOT - Keep it Clean.esp222 de YOT - 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Deleted58783396User Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Problematic Mods: Interesting NPCs (3DNPC) = incredibly resource intensive, capable of making skyrim reach its maximum string limit, exceeding the string limit will fry the saved game. this mod is really only supposed to be used on a resource minimal setup game, because of that. can also cause a lot of incompatibilities with other mods. as good as this mod is, its a very risky mod to run on a heavy skyrim Setup. ELFX Exteriors = not wise to use this module with Weather Mods + ENB. ELFX Weathers = Incompatible with Climates of Tamriel (Another weather mod) multiple weather mods are not compatible and can cause issues. When Vampires Attack = Made Redundant by 1 of Bethesda's earlier Official Patches (their patch completely removed Vampire Attacks) this mod is also further Made Redundant by the same author who made a complete solution mod (Run for your lives) Ruby Red Vampire Eyes = Incompatible with Improved Eyes Skyrim (any of the Vampire Eyes Options) Keep it Clean = Probably resource intensive, combined with 3DNPC, will probably reach a limit of stability. Face Masks of Skyrim = Redundant: Included in Wet and Cold mod Thats all i can think of at the moment, i am noticing a lot of mods that do the same thing so no doubt conflict with each other, or simply will override the other, making it redundant. You need a Bash Patch Wrye Bash: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/6837 Run it - Scroll right to the bottom on the left pane window, right click on Bash patch,0 - click on Rebuild Patch - on the next window that pops up, click on skip, then on the next window click on Build Patch Note: ensure you have Run Loot before build a Bash Patch. Note: 3DNPC is probably 1 of the causes for your issues, if not the cause, recommend disabling it, until you have a more sensible mod setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoune Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 I had a similar problem. The hang caused the Amazing Follower Tweaks mod, when used by the follower the Nordic arrows. After stopping the transfer of arrows to the follower, the problem disappeared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillainousEater Posted April 7, 2019 Author Share Posted April 7, 2019 Problematic Mods: Interesting NPCs (3DNPC) = incredibly resource intensive, capable of making skyrim reach its maximum string limit, exceeding the string limit will fry the saved game. this mod is really only supposed to be used on a resource minimal setup game, because of that. can also cause a lot of incompatibilities with other mods. as good as this mod is, its a very risky mod to run on a heavy skyrim Setup. ELFX Exteriors = not wise to use this module with Weather Mods + ENB. ELFX Weathers = Incompatible with Climates of Tamriel (Another weather mod) multiple weather mods are not compatible and can cause issues. When Vampires Attack = Made Redundant by 1 of Bethesda's earlier Official Patches (their patch completely removed Vampire Attacks) this mod is also further Made Redundant by the same author who made a complete solution mod (Run for your lives) Ruby Red Vampire Eyes = Incompatible with Improved Eyes Skyrim (any of the Vampire Eyes Options) Keep it Clean = Probably resource intensive, combined with 3DNPC, will probably reach a limit of stability. Face Masks of Skyrim = Redundant: Included in Wet and Cold mod Thats all i can think of at the moment, i am noticing a lot of mods that do the same thing so no doubt conflict with each other, or simply will override the other, making it redundant. You need a Bash Patch Wrye Bash: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/6837 Run it - Scroll right to the bottom on the left pane window, right click on Bash patch,0 - click on Rebuild Patch - on the next window that pops up, click on skip, then on the next window click on Build Patch Note: ensure you have Run Loot before build a Bash Patch. Note: 3DNPC is probably 1 of the causes for your issues, if not the cause, recommend disabling it, until you have a more sensible mod setup. I had the freezing issues before 3DNPC and Keep It Clean, so I don't believe they are the main issues... I did everything else, though, and the game CTD when i tried to fast travel to Lakeview Manor. However, it was an old save, and I will try to start a new one later. I had a similar problem. The hang caused the Amazing Follower Tweaks mod, when used by the follower the Nordic arrows. After stopping the transfer of arrows to the follower, the problem disappeared. I don't have any followers, ever. I dislike company :smile:The only reason I have this mod to make people follow me into specific places and leave them there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillainousEater Posted April 9, 2019 Author Share Posted April 9, 2019 Still get the freezing problems. Still very random. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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