Conspiracy Theories about Skyrim or Tamriel?

[Dovahkiin234]

What if...

Tamriel was Earth, long abandoned?

Like, if the Elder scrolls were super computers that store knowledge way beyond human comprehension?

Or if dragons were scientifically resurrected dinosaurs that could understand human speech?

What if the races of Elves were genetically altered humans?

And magic was simply science?

Freezing of Atmora? Polar ice caps expanding do to less pollution.

And the Daedra were aliens from another dimension?

What if the destruction of Yokuda, the Redguards' home continent was nukes :nuke: ?

And the ability to use the Thu'um? Scientifically altered vocal cords!

Anyone one else have crazy theories about Skyrim or Tamriel and tamriel they'd like to share?

 

P.S: Is this in the right topic?

[Roxxo]

o_O How high are you right now? Edited August 20, 2012 by Roxxo

[sajuukkhar9000]

What if the destruction of Yokuda, the Redguards' home continent was nukes :nuke: ?

Lord Vivec's Sword-Meeting With Cyrus the Restless

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/lord-vivecs-sword-meeting-cyrus-restless

Vivec paused. "It is," he said.

"As should this," Cyrus said, moving to the Pankratosword.

Vivec paused longer. And then he laughed loud. "You would not!"

"I say again, test me."

"You would destroy the home of your ancestors even more? And in the fashion that they had done, which is now forbidden in your hands?"

Cyrus didn't move from his stance.

"All for an Opal which you could never thereafter spend?"

"You would be finished," Cyrus said. "And I would be rid of the one who shamed me. So why wouldn't I? You shouldn't have sent your saints to me, Ansu-Gurleht. I am not much like them at all."

"Cut the atomos and you die, too."

"What, the Barons of Move Like This didn't teach you a countermove to this?" Cyrus said. "Oh, wait, they wouldn't have. The Pankratosword is stricken from the record."

Vivec laughed again. He was delighted. He said, "The things they said about you were true, Redguard, whether you wish to believe it or not."

Vivec bowed his head.

"I make way," he said. "I drop my sword."

You, by some miracle of randomness, were actually correct in that the home of the Redguards was destroyed by the splitting of atoms.

 

The Redguard Sword-Singers used the Pankratosword, the sword-singing technique that allows one to split atoms.

Edited August 20, 2012 by sajuukkhar9000

[denar9072]

Well, it's not mine, but there is that theory that those innocent "Bugs in Jars" you find laying about are part of an elaborate ritual by the Thalmor to destroy all mankind and possibly the world. I'll try and find a link - I think it was on reddit. (There are some really good points, and considering this is a fictional world where almost anything goes, it's not really so much a "conspiracy theory" as it is "possible future sequels/DLC content")

 

I like the idea that the ENTIRE world (tamriel, oblivion, Padomay and that other one, Anu or something) is just one big Elder Scroll itself, and therefore all events in it are part of a big story - it's meta fiction! This is why there are such an abundance of fantasy elements, and explains the narrative compulsion of the "heroes" of each title (explained as the only people able to make their own fate - they're the protagonists! - everyone else's is already written down) to finish an epic quest with similar storylines: Humble, unexplained beginnings in captivity -> all the way to -> Now an immensely powerful hero-figure, destroying the "great evil" in a big flashy conclusion. The mad explanations of what elder scrolls are in the games almost point to this - they're indestructable, player is mocked if they ask "Where/What is one?" because apparently they're everywhere and everything... etc etc

...If this is actually a well-established point, I'm sorry for being so ignorant.

[sajuukkhar9000]

Well, it's not mine, but there is that theory that those innocent "Bugs in Jars" you find laying about are part of an elaborate ritual by the Thalmor to destroy all mankind and possibly the world. I'll try and find a link - I think it was on reddit. (There are some really good points, and considering this is a fictional world where almost anything goes, it's not really so much a "conspiracy theory" as it is "possible future sequels/DLC content")

 

I like the idea that the ENTIRE world (tamriel, oblivion, Padomay and that other one, Anu or something) is just one big Elder Scroll itself, and therefore all events in it are part of a big story - it's meta fiction! This is why there are such an abundance of fantasy elements, and explains the narrative compulsion of the "heroes" of each title (explained as the only people able to make their own fate - they're the protagonists! - everyone else's is already written down) to finish an epic quest with similar storylines: Humble, unexplained beginnings in captivity -> all the way to -> Now an immensely powerful hero-figure, destroying the "great evil" in a big flashy conclusion. The mad explanations of what elder scrolls are in the games almost point to this - they're indestructable, player is mocked if they ask "Where/What is one?" because apparently they're everywhere and everything... etc etc

...If this is actually a well-established point, I'm sorry for being so ignorant.

Actually it is somewhat established.

 

The entirety of the Elder Scrolls universe is actually the dream of a being called the god-head.

[Deleted3507349User]

I submit that the notion there's any hidden meaning anywhere is in itself a conspiracy theory.

 

EDIT: On further reflection, it occurs to me that the bugs-in-jars may simply be an easter egg reference to Hex from the Discworld series of novels.

Edited August 21, 2012 by digitaltrucker

[Dovahkiin234]

o_O How high are you right now?

Not at all. If I was stoned or something, I'd be on Digg, with plans to overthrow all mass media falling to collective laziness or something like that.

This whole page was just one big idea that floated into my mind, all because of two words: "What if..."

 

 

You, by some miracle of randomness, were actually correct in that the home of the Redguards was destroyed by the splitting of atoms.

Wow. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Edited August 21, 2012 by Dovahkiin234

[Lachdonin]

The biggest conspiracy of The Elder Scrolls is, as Sjuukkhar pointed out, that nothing is technicly 'real'. It's all the dream of some omnipotent 'God-head'. Nirn is the product of one gods (Lorkhan) failed attempt to understand that, and was created so that others could strive to acheive the understanding that Lorkhan failed to. Nirn (the 'world' Tamriel is on) its trials and its constant spatial, temporal, ethical and general ambiguity, and its mortal nature, provide an Arena in which the self can be tested. The worthy can, in some cases re-ascend to Aetherius, becoming gods once again (such as Talos, though theres really a lot more to that story) and the really, really worthy (or arrogant, selfish, narssicistic... It seems to vary) acheive CHIM and trancend the confines of conventional existance.

 

This whole dynamic sets up the eternal conflict between Men and Mer, of course, by merit of their genesis. Mer were Gods, more properly Aedra (who are Et'ada who were involved with the creation of Nirn, regardless of their Anu/Padomay alignment) who were efectivly neutered by the creation of Nirn. Some desire to return to their state of godhood, prefering their former near-perfection over the chance at true perfection. This, of course, is the basis of the 'Bug in the Jar', 'Broken Tower', 'Unmake the world' etc. theory, which is based in the idea that Nirn is what keeps Elves from being proper Et'ada again. Some Elves, notably amongst the Dunmer, don't actually agree with the idea, and prefer Nirn, though whether the Psijic Endevour as they practice in Morrowind is just a manipulation by the Daedra, or some glimmer of Nirn's true purpose i am not qualified to say.

 

Men, on the other hand, were created as PART of Nirn, rather than just comming to settle upon it, and as such are part of the world. In many ways, they are inferior to the Mer, since Men were never gods, but they certianly seem to be more in tune with the trials of the Arena than the Mer, meaning they are more likely to acheive the final goal.

 

Whether or not they are, in fact, more likely is iffy though, as we really only have 2 confirmed CHIM, one Nord (possibly a Breton, Tiber Septim's heritage is up in the air) and a Chimer/Dunmer/Thing and only a single zero-sum which i am awair of.

 

Anyway, even longer story somewhat shorter, the world isn't real, Mer are REALY superior to Men, Talos isn't technicly a God, and Vehk is suitably awesome.

[cycloney911]

So, everything in the Elder Scroll universe is a dream of a being?

 

Inception all over again. Tho, it would make some sense of the nature of the Elder Scrolls. Perhaps fragments of the dream?

[Lachdonin]

So, everything in the Elder Scroll universe is a dream of a being?

 

Inception all over again. Tho, it would make some sense of the nature of the Elder Scrolls. Perhaps fragments of the dream?

 

The Elder Scrolls themselves are something like the representation of the God-heads rational mind (I think, a lot of this stuff gets very convoluted).

 

All of that stuff is, of course, a layer of comspiracy and confusion all its own. Within the world, such as it is, you have the confused apeothesis of Talos, Dragon Breaks, the legitimacy of Martin as a Septim heir, the dissapearance of the Dwemer etc.