Vortex killed my game

[HadToRegister]

 

 

 

Stop swearing or get reported.

 

The IMPORT from NMM was a feature in Vortex from the Beginning.

YES, Vortex promised to be able to import the NMM setup, and then it was discovered that NMM was corrupting the files that Vortex needed to import everything correctly.

Sorry that this is difficult news for you to accept, considering that you believe NMM is completely flawless and only other Mod Managers have flaws, but it's true.

Which is why the Dev for Vortex, and the Nexus team started telling people to STAY WITH NMM and don't try and Migrate.

Case after case revealed that the particular files necessary for Vortex to use for import were corrupted by NMM.

 

This became clear when more and more people started reporting errors with Importing from NMM, and it was discovered that in all of those cases, it was corrupted files that NMM had saved that was causing the import problems.

 

Since then, the Nexus has been advising people to NOT import from NMM into Vortex, and to STAY WITH NMM if they have a working set up.

 

How is that attacking NMM, of the Vortex dev team is telling people to stay with NMM?

How is that in ANY WAY, TOXIC?

 

Good lord, if we say "Stick with Vortex" we get attacked, if we say "Stick with NMM because NMM corrupts the files needed to import to Vortex" we get attacked and called TOXIC.

 

 

 

 

If people are telling to stay with NMM, how come that the guide, i got linked right at the beginning, told me to import the mods from NMM.

All I ask is that the guide gets taken down, which ruined my game.

For me, yesterday, it was advertised to use Vortex as a new and better mod manager than NMM, and that NMM is no longer supported by Nexus mods, and therefore I should convert to Vortex.

And it was said that I should import my NMM mods to Vortex with its "amaizing" feature.

That guide was directly linked when I wanted to download Vortex and if it's deleted or changed now, it's fine.

The problem is that people would read the guide FIRST and then come here to complain.

 

 

You're just here to argue and blame others.

Time to move on, I'm not going to continue to defend Vortex.

Enjoy gaming with NMM.

[BigBizkit]

@MangetsuShiro

 

There seems to be a huge number of misunderstandings on your part that I am happy to clear up:

 

1. While there are many users in these forums who try to help out others, site staff is identified by the red admin tag or the green staff tag. Tannin42 is the lead developer of Vortex, so if he responds to a question you are getting your answer directly from the horse's mouth.

 

2. NMM has not been officially supported for well over a year now and we would answer support requests by pointing out exactly that for the last 12 months +

 

3. "as soon as I opened the old NMM i got a warning that it is not supported by Nexus Mods anymore and that I should get another Mod Manager called Vortex". That is not at all what the error message says, I'm afraid. Pickysaurus included a screenshot of it in this news post https://www.nexusmods.com/news/14028. It clearly states you can keep using NMM in offline mode, or (as the news post says) update to the community version of NMM. The message does not mention Vortex.

 

4. We are certainly not forcing anyone to use Vortex. Quite the opposite. We recommend for people to stay with whatever mod manager they are using if they have a stable setup. The new API is open to third party tools such as other mod managers. This is the opposite of what you would do if you wanted to force your mod manager on users, which we don't believe is the right thing to do - hence why we are not doing it.

 

5. "And I want there to be more warnings about importing mods from NMM" - The first bit on Step 1 of the import process states how the process has a number of limitations and that we recommend a fresh mod install. It also links to this article explaining the things to consider before importing: https://wiki.nexusmods.com/index.php/Importing_from_Nexus_Mod_Manager:_Things_to_consider To add to that, no mod manager can guarantee a flawless import of 200 mods coming from NMM, this is due to how NMM handles installations - it's not the fault of the importing mod manager (Vortex in this case). The message on Step 1 and the article I linked is our way of highlighting that this is not your one-click solution to moving a massive mod setup over to Vortex without any issue or worry whatsoever.

 

It appears you could have saved yourself some trouble by actually processing the information presented to you or asking if you were unsure, rather than jumping to conclusions.

[MangetsuShiro]

@MangetsuShiro

 

There seems to be a huge number of misunderstandings on your part that I am happy to clear up:

 

1. While there are many users in these forums who try to help out others, site staff is identified by the red admin tag or the green staff tag. Tannin42 is the lead developer of Vortex, so if he responds to a question you are getting your answer directly from the horse's mouth.

 

2. NMM has not been officially supported for well over a year now and we would answer support requests by pointing out exactly that for the last 12 months +

 

3. "as soon as I opened the old NMM i got a warning that it is not supported by Nexus Mods anymore and that I should get another Mod Manager called Vortex". That is not at all what the error message says, I'm afraid. Pickysaurus included a screenshot of it in this news post https://www.nexusmods.com/news/14028. It clearly states you can keep using NMM in offline mode, or (as the news post says) update to the community version of NMM. The message does not mention Vortex.

 

4. We are certainly not forcing anyone to use Vortex. Quite the opposite. We recommend for people to stay with whatever mod manager they are using if they have a stable setup. The new API is open to third party tools such as other mod managers. This is the opposite of what you would do if you wanted to force your mod manager on users, which we don't believe is the right thing to do - hence why we are not doing it.

 

5. "And I want there to be more warnings about importing mods from NMM" - The first bit on Step 1 of the import process states how the process has a number of limitations and that we recommend a fresh mod install. It also links to this article explaining the things to consider before importing: https://wiki.nexusmods.com/index.php/Importing_from_Nexus_Mod_Manager:_Things_to_consider To add to that, no mod manager can guarantee a flawless import of 200 mods coming from NMM, this is due to how NMM handles installations - it's not the fault of the importing mod manager (Vortex in this case). The message on Step 1 and the article I linked is our way of highlighting that this is not your one-click solution to moving a massive mod setup over to Vortex without any issue or worry whatsoever.

 

It appears you could have saved yourself some trouble by actually processing the information presented to you or asking if you were unsure, rather than jumping to conclusions.

thanks for the answer.

on point 1: I didn't know that, and it seemed like the 2 who were answering me, where kind of managing these threads and responding (rather unprofessionally) to complaints, which was quite alarming to me. But if they are not staff members then it explains it...

 

on point 2: they way I understood the support of NMM is that on the Nexus site you can directly download the mod to NMM and I thought that this would be replaced with Vortex. And I didn't know about the 12 months of "not-supporting" of NMM, because I don't often get on these threads unless I have question or complaints.

 

on point 3: Having NMM in offline mode, means that you can no longer directly download mods from the Nexus page, which meant for me that it is no longer supported, like i said in "on point 2"

 

on point 4: due to my misunderstanding that NMM was no longer supported, i thought that i would have to shift to Vortex and well the API on the community version of NMM isn't working for me, but i'm pretty sure that is a problem with my computer.

 

on point 5: in the link you posted which is the guide that i am having troubles with, it is stated that "Vortex supports a full migration of your mods from Nexus Mod Manager and Mod Organizer 2." , which is as it seems not true.

And yes there is a warning about Importing from NMM: Importing from NMM has certain limitations and is not recommended for more complex mod setups." Even tho it says "certain limitations" this whole sentence is very vague, if the limitation is that most of the mods cannot be imported that i think that should be clearly stated. And for the "more complex mod setups" part, I don't know what is "more complex" there are people having over 1000 mods and there are people who only have 20 mods or less. So as someone inbetween I thought I should give it a try.

And the below link "importing_from _Nexus_Mod_Manager:_Things_to_consider", well that one I didn't bother to read, which is entirely on me.

 

I think the first sentence "Vortex supports a full migration of your mods from Nexus Mod Manager..." is very misleading and even contradicts the warning.

 

I just wanted to mention that even tho it sounded a bit like i am disagreeing, I totally agree with you in the points 1-4 and am thankful for the response.

On the 5th point i partially agree. Yes, it is possible to find the warning, but most people won't bother clicking on all the links and read through everything, much like no one really reads the policy agreements when buying a new game etc.

For me the warning was too vague, but whatever.

Thank you for the response.

And i agree with Beer Ambassador, that there is no reason to continue this.

[Rattledagger]

con:

-unorganised (no categories in the mod list like in NMM, which made it easy to find mods or see what mods do something similar)

-it didn't import all the mods from NMM to Vortex and gave no information which mods were not imported, just an error message that said some files might be corrupted

-not working properly, new mods don't get installed like they should (which worked in NMM), the interface that lets you customize the mod you installed does not appear

 

1: if you means categories for mods, under mods-tab in Vortex click the gear-icon on the far right to toggle columns, one of the columns is the Nexus category column. Any mod downloaded with Vortex will show it's mod category. If the mod-archive is still available on Nexus you should normally also get correct category for manually added downloads to Vortex, but this information will take some time before shows up.

 

2: have never tried the importer, so won't comment.

 

3: do you mean FOMOD installer didn't work? If yes, you posting information about the exact mod that didn't work is important, since this way Vortex can be improved. While the FOMOD installers I've tried works this doesn't mean where isn't a few FOMOD that don't work.

[rmm200]

You seem to forget we are mod users like yourself. I have no affiliation with Nexusmods, other than trying to help.

We use Vortex because it is actually good.

If it were not better than NMM, or more likely MO 2, I would be using those.

They aren't, so Vortex manages my over 200 mods quite nicely, thank you.