Who is Weynon?

[Deleted3507349User]

I thought Talos was elevated to godhood because he looked absolutely FABULOUS in a leather holdall.

 

Real opinion: Since Weynon (afaik) only appears as a place name in Oblivion and Skyrim, I wonder if it's not a who but a WHAT. It may be an acronym also.

[gsmanners]

An acronym, you say...

 

Windy Exotic Youthful Nonsensical Orchestrated Nightmare

 

Sounds like an apt description of the game itself. :thumbsup:

[xlcr]

argh, someone connected the dots where bug jars were found in skyrim.

i dunno, doesn't exactly create a perfect equilateral triangle; and, a majority of the lines intersecting at a point between

whiterun and whiterun stables is probably a geometric coincidence due to whiterun's central location..

so, no definitive or intriguing illuminati/mason patterns or sinister devil worship geoglyphs my fellow elder scrolls conspirists lol.

spent a few minutes connecting the 13 standing stones with lines, didn't notice anything interesting.

http://i.imgur.com/iTrux.jpg

[AxlRocks]

I read about these a while back on that Reddit thread and thought it was pretty darn interesting. Since it kind of died down, I didn't put much more thought to if after that but now, the whole fact the Moth in a Jar translates to "Day Need" + Dawnguard's story... wow. That's an extremely interesting coincidence if nothing else. I have no clue what the others could possibly mean though.

 

Eh, either way, it's kind of fun to think there might be some meaning behind them.

[xlcr]

sometime ago i checked out a few clever skyrim alchemy app websites folks put together just to see if

i could discover or stumble upon anykind of clue or reasoning or logic behind the actual ingredients in the jars; maybe,

somekind of undocumented potion or effect or key to a hidden quest or summoning the apocalypse..

didn't have much luck lol, not a good enuf alchemist, paying for skipping potions learning curve with player.additem cheating.

http://skyrim-alchemy.com/

http://rp.eliteskills.com/skyrim.html

http://skyrim.warlore.org/

http://skyrim.melian.cc/?cmd=cmdSkyrimAlchemyWizard

going to try translating what's on the jar lids with dragon language, might give a description of a location in skyrim.

 

by the way theseducer235, i apologize for hijacking your thread and going offtopic with all this

bug hunt jar nonsense, back on topic,

who/what/why/when/where is this 'Weynon'?

 

Other popular theories (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/114910-Skyrim-Fans-Uncover-Insectoid-Conspiracy):

 

Someone noticed the connection between the five cities Morthal, Whiterun, Winterhold, Dawnstar, and Windhelm, and

realized they formed a Pentagon.

He also noticed three dragon "sanctuaries" or whatever you may call them, Mzinchaleft, and the Tower Stone formed a smaller pentagon within it,

making a transmutation circle.

In the general area of the middle of the circle, there is a shrine to Talos with a circle of stones around it.

His theory was that if you placed the bugs on their respective cities (see post for relation between bugs and cities),

committed genocide in those cities, kill the dragons at the dragon areas and the one that Mzinchaleft leads to,

activate the tower stone, and wait for the "Promised Day".

 

The second one expands upon the Weynon stones.

The guy figured out that the Thalmor are trying to erase mankind from existence, and the things that are stopping them are the eight towers:

 

Crystal Tower

Red Tower

Tree-sap

Orchalc

Khajiit

 

all of which were destroyed or deactivated.

The most significant and only remaining one are the Brass Tower and Snow-Throat, or the Throat of the World.

The Brass Tower was cast out of time.

The tower may have a spiritual connection with Numidium, the brass god, and

the disappearance of the tower and therefore Numidium may tie in with the disappearance of the Dwemer.

Snow Throat is the only active one.

Each of these towers have stones which bind them to Nirn, and the theorist concluded that the Weynon Stones bound Snow Throat.

This is why the Thalmor have been waging war on Skyrim; so they can destroy Snow Throat or the Weynon Stones,

either way destroying the last tower and wiping mankind from existence.

Edited September 3, 2012 by xlcr

[gsmanners]

The guy figured out that the Thalmor are trying to erase mankind from existence, and the things that are stopping them are the eight towers:

 

Crystal Tower

Red Tower

Tree-sap

Orchalc

Khajiit

 

all of which were destroyed or deactivated.

 

I assume, by "figured out," that you mean he passed out from doing too many drugs all at once. Or was there some "logic" to all this mystical babbling nonsense?

 

As for the Thalmor and their alleged genocidal aspirations, that's just ridiculous. The attempt to "purify" Tamriel of man would destroy all life, thanks to all the reforms and interbreeding going on. Even Summerset Isle is not immune to this. You might argue that Artaeum is strictly populated by a more orthodox group of Altmer, but they don't really factor into this situation in the first place. Any halfway lucid Thalmor who realizes this would immediately reform to a more sensible goal of merely securing the coasts of Valenwood for their trade ships.

[Lachdonin]

As for the Thalmor and their alleged genocidal aspirations, that's just ridiculous. The attempt to "purify" Tamriel of man would destroy all life, thanks to all the reforms and interbreeding going on. Even Summerset Isle is not immune to this. You might argue that Artaeum is strictly populated by a more orthodox group of Altmer, but they don't really factor into this situation in the first place. Any halfway lucid Thalmor who realizes this would immediately reform to a more sensible goal of merely securing the coasts of Valenwood for their trade ships.

 

The Altmer, and in particular the Thalmor, consider themselves pure-blood Mer, the legitimate heirs of the Aldmer, regardless of if it's true or not. They are the White-Supremicists of the Elder Scrolls universe, blatantly ignoring the evidence in front of their faces in favor of some lie they tell themselves at night. Yes, destroying Nirn would destroy all the 'mongrel' races and creatures, but the likelyhood there is, in fact, a pure-blood Aldmer left is lower than winning the Tel Arun national lottery.

 

Now, the problem with the dooms-day hypothesis is that it's a boat load of conjecture. The pentagram, for instance, assumes that a pentagram has the same meaning on Nirn as it does to us (its more of a symbol associated with the Oghma Infignitum, and thus Hermaeus Mora specificly, though i've seen it associated with Daedra in general, notably in Daggerfall). It also suffers from the fact that the lines don't line up perfectly, they skip other sites and generally subscribe to what we, in archaeology, call 'Psudoscience'. Why would you assume that, just because a shape manifests between random sites (if they were all the Dragon Shrines, maybe) that it is signifigant?

 

I have no doubt that some within the Thalmor want to destroy the world. Others, i am sure, want to destroy it, and the collapse of some of the Towers is worrying. That said, some of that information is also dubious. Whose to say the Red Tower is, in fact, distroyed? Red Mountain has erupted before, and theres no real indication that the Heart of Lorkhan is actually 'gone'.

 

There is, of course, another possiblity, linked somewhat to Skyrim. We know that not only has the Heart of Lorkhan vanished, but his body did as well (the moons). Lorkhan, in his manifestation as Shor, is the primary god of Skyrim, above even Talos (who is, in fact, a usurper of Lorkhan's place in the Pantheon). All these conspiracies may not be about the end of the world, but the rebirth of a god. A God not known for his love of Elves. The Thalmor could well be trying to prevent the rebirth of their greatest enemy.

 

Again though, there is absolutely no evidence of any of this, merely conjecture and missmatched mapping skills.

[SFBryan18]

Isn't he a Vorta from the gamma quadrant? :biggrin:

[Guest deleted2588518]

I've been following this for some time now. Poking around in game and on a few forums. There seem to be a few oversites regarding information about the towers. One specifically is Tree-Sap, which has nothing to do with the Bosmer or their walking tree city. Its the Hist. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Hist

 

"Hist Sap:

When the sap of the hist is licked by an Argonian, the tree is capable of communicating with the Argonian through visions.^[4] The sap of the Hist tree seems to increase the combat prowess of those who drink it. The Blackwood Company smuggled a Hist tree from Black Marsh to their headquarters in Leyawiin,
and extracted the sap to exploit this. However, when consumed by
non-Argonian species, the Hist sap had strong hallucinogenic properties
that sent them into dangerous bloodlust, though this particular Hist sap
was modified to have similar effects on Argonians as well. At the end
of the the Third Era, a recruit of the Fighters Guild sabotaged the Hist extraction mechanism, destroying the tree in the process."

 

So, I believe the "Tree-Sap" tower is infact the Argonian Hist. And much like the Khajiit and their moon sugar, its side effects are dangerous to other races.

 

I haven't really seen anyone else make that connection on any of the other forums or postings. That makes me wonder what other things people have overlooked.

[Scorch621]

Much like how mead is harmful to most non-nords... *chuckles*

But in all seriousness I liek this topic, mostly because this Weynon thing is bugging me...that and the bug jar thing is freaky...