Yet another load order issue

[Xana43]

I know this has probably been asked like a million times, but most of the other posts dont have any of the mods I have, and if they do it's only like one or two. So I decided to ask for help after 4 sleepless days of trying to figure out some stuff

Issues:
the only issues I seem to be having is surprise surprise, black face issues, but it only seem to happen on some women and no males, but some male NPCs have brown faces, and so do the kids.
I've already done the basic troubleshooting steps for stuff like this and I still can't find the solution. Most likely someone out there will at least know how to go about solving this mess.

General Information:
Graphics Card: Geforce GTX 1080
Ram: 64gb
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X
Drive being used to load the game: Samsung 850 Evo 500GB

Additional Information:
If this has a bearing on anything, I'm using the latest version of SSE, with the latest version of all the mods that needed updating. Plus I'm using a ReShade (Not and ENB)

Load Order information:

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
RSkyrimChildren.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
DynDOLOD.esm
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
Night Eye Overhaul.esm
Overwrite.esm
OverwriteRNAM.esm
OverwriteRNAM.esl
Overwrite.esl
EFFCore.esm
RaceCompatibility.esm
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp
NSUTR_Static_fix.esp
NSUTR_bugfixes.esp
NSUTR_groundsnow_mesh_fixes.esp
NSUTR_improvements.esp
SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp
LSFX-SSE-Audiosettings.esp
SkyUI_SE.esp
FloraRespawnFix.esp
S3DLandscapes NextGenerationForests.esp
Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp
Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
Dolomite Weathers.esp
UIExtensions.esp
Customizable Camera.esp
Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Dolomite Weathers Patch.esp
Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Enhanced Blood Patch.esp
Unofficial Skyrim SE Fixes.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
EmbersHD.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
Fixed body collision.esp
ASIS-Dependency.esp
Dark Face Bug Fix.esp
Veydosebrom - Grasses and Groundcover.esp
Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
CBBE.esp
WetandCold.esp
FNIS.esp
mjhKhajiitSpeak.esp
RLO - Interiors.esp
Race Compatibility Dialogue SSE.esp
MagicalCollegeofWinterhold.esp
Coins of Tamriel V2 SSE Edition.esp
OpulentThievesGuild.esp
RLO - Exteriors.esp
Original Opening Scene.esp
RSChildren.esp
RSC_USSEP_AventusFix.esp
KhajiitWillFollow.esp
Better Vampires.esp
No Edge Glow - Magic and Transformations.esp
Animated Weapon Enchants.esp
DigitigradeKhajiit+ArgonianRaptor.esp
OpulentThievesGuildPatch.esp
JKs Whiterun.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
WaterSeamsFix.esp
OutlawsRefuges.esp
Better Claws And Gauntlets.esp
BetterHeartbeats.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
Distinct People.esp
Blaze Of Eventide.esp
The Need Of Voice.esp
Coins USSEP.esp
dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
DeadlyMutilation.esp
DragonboneFootstepTest.esp
DraugrDontBreathe.esp
EmbersHD - RLO Patch.esp
FNIS_PCEA2.esp
FNISSexyMove.esp
GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp
HN66_Earrings.esp
HorseSoundOverhaul.esp
Hubbies.esp
icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp
iHUD.esp
Immersive Movement.esp
ImprovedCombatMusic.esp
Insignificant Object Remover.esp
mjhKhajiitSpeakExtra - Ohmes-Raht.esp
Moss Rocks.esp
SpectacularNightEye.esp
NEO Brighter Default 250.esp
NEO Persistent Spell.esp
Night Eye Overhaul.esp
NoBSAIProjectileDodge.esp
OhmesRaht.esp
ORM-Arvak.esp
Player Blink Fix.esp
PrettyKhajiit.esp
Proper Aiming.esp
Race Compatibility Dialogue SSE - Khajiit Speak.esp
Reading Is Good 2.esp
reaidn.esp
reflection-levelupmessages.esp
RidingSoundtrack.esp
RLO - Effects.esp
RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp
Skysan_Icicle.esp
RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp
sandboxcylinderheight.esp
SkyHUD.esp
Skyrim Ice Shader Fix.esp
Skysan_GlassAW.esp
Skysan_Stalhrim.esp
TailArmors_REPLACER.esp
TESGLoadingScreens.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
YamiNeko.esp
EFFDialogue.esp
Volkihar Knight.esp
kuerteeAutoSaveAndTime.esp
SimpleAutoSaveManager.esp
PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp
PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp
USSEP & The Need Of Voice Patch.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
BlendedRoads.esp
S3DRocks.esp
Better Dynamic Snow - NSUTR Patch.esp
MOD - Simply Better Movement Speeds (SSE).esp
CC'sEnhancedOreVeinsSSE-HearthfirePatch.esp
3PCOFull.esp
DolomiteWaterFix.esp
IHSS.esp
RaceMenu.esp
XPMSE.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
VioLens SE.esp
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
TissHeadTrack.esp
90fps.esp
skyhavenarmory.esp
Craftable Horse Barding.esp
Golz Nahlaas.esp
TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp
TAWoBA - Light Armor Patch.esp
Unique Uniques.esp
Ars Metallica.esp
Blacksmith Forge Water Fix SE USSEP.esp
Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp
Drugs Expanded.esp
Rotmulaag.esp
DagiRaht.esp
Khajiit Speak Extended SSE - Rotmulaag.esp
SkyrimRecycling.esp
ASLAO - Front Porch (Breezehome).esp
JKs Whiterun exterior.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
ICNs_ImmersiveCollegeNPCs.esp
Gleamblossom Hollow.esp
bloodlinegatefix.esp
Terrace Porch.esp
Wet&Cold - WaterFix - Addon.esp
FNISspells.esp
Overwrite.esp
OverwriteRNAM.esp
holycow.esp
mjhKhajiitSpeakMod - The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
AnimatedEatingRedux.esp
FastTravelSpeedMultiplier.esp
ETaC - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp
Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
Dagi-Raht Imperious Patch.esp
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
ETaC - Complete.esp
ETaC - Complete RLO Patch.esp
ETaC - Complete No Snow Patch.esp
Immersive Horses.esp
mjhKhajiitSpeakMod - Immersive Citizens.esp
ETaC - Complete RSC Patch.esp
ETaC - Complete S3D Patch.esp
ASIS.esp
CWIBDSPatch.esp
VWA_VanillaWarpaintsAbsolution.esp
Bring Out Your Dead.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - FlowingLakes.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp
RWT Lod Fix.esp
zPatch.esp
TerrainLodRedone.esp
DynDOLOD.esp

[Xana43]

Note: This load order is what vortex made it out to be, so I had to manually change stuff around according to the load order instructions on each mod's page

[rmm200]

Blunt force approach:

1) Find a black face bug victim

2) Open Console, target the victim and identify what mod she is from (index of ID if your console does not tell you)

3) Open the esp of that mod in the CK

4) Find ALL NPCs touched by that mod using Actor tab

5) Ctl F4 to export facegen data. No need to save the ESP - you have not modified it.

 

The bug for that family of NPCs will be fixed.

And stop modifying load order picked by Vortex. Unless you are solving a specific problem you have observed - you are making things worse. (only Vortex related issue here)

[Xana43]

I've already tried that, all the NPCs affected appear to be from Skyrim.esm, but when I try to export new face gen data, it doesn't change anything. I'll try to reset the auto sort in vortex and see if that helps

[rmm200]

Too bad. Specific mod textures were the easy ones to fix.

In my game, a lot of black face bugs are transitory. They appear, I fast travel a few times, and they go away.

In console, I also use "pcb" (purge cell buffers). It seems to help. I blame Skyrim texture buffers overflowing.

Also try stopping everything except your game. Give it a little more storage to mess up.

 

Just thought: To eliminate bad saves, at the Load screen, enter "coc qasmoke". That will bring you to a lvl 1 character in a test cell.

COC from there to anywhere you know black face NPCs are. See if they are OK in this environment.

[HadToRegister]

You have no Bashed Patch

[Xana43]

I tried using meteor smash to make a merged patch, though I don't think that was the right option, I'm kind of new when it comes to modding, so I need all the help I can get

[HadToRegister]

I tried using meteor smash to make a merged patch, though I don't think that was the right option, I'm kind of new when it comes to modding, so I need all the help I can get

 

 

Yea, try using A bashed patch instead, Mator Smash still has it's "issues"

[Xana43]

I made a merged and bashed patch. but some of the NPCs still have a charcoal black head, it's not even the comedic brown face. I don't know what's causing it, because it's not all the NPCs, it's only NPCs like Fralia Grey mane, and other NPCs similar, everyone else is 100% fine (ok some people have the brown face glitch but I can say they just got a tan) This is what I mean by black head(I managed to get the hair to work) https://imgur.com/3ezmTKA

[BigBizkit]

This bug usually occurs when the facegen data loaded by the game do not correspond to the last loaded plugin (that changes NPC faces).

 

For example: if "My NPC mod" is set to win all the file conflicts regarding face gen data by loading last, then "My NPC mod.esp" will have to load after all other plugins from mods that make edits to NPC faces. There is no reliable way for LOOT to know about how you chose to resolve those conflicts, so you might need to create a custom rule here.