another Ivarstead CTD - Thread

[Chilliman6]

Like the topic said ... i had ctd when I try to enter Ivarstead and the surrounding area (even the "coc" inside buildings). The hole cell seems broken.
Below you can see my modlist. All enable via Modmanager, Loot sorted (no errors there). I found so many differnt threads in the internet about ctd in that cell and I tried many solutions. I deactivated all my Mods and again cdt. I used almost all Mods from the beginning and got not one ctd since I went to check "42 2a CWOGGuardArmor.esp". I found in the mods comments that some miner cities remain with the Army-Troops so I went to check ... so I found the ctd cell. I deactivated the "new" mod but still ctd. Even on older backups. I try a new gamestart (even with "live another life" mod) went there and no ctd. My mainsafe worked smooth, when I was in Ivarstead during the main quest. I did all possible quest in the game and also all of them in the Ivarstead-Cell. No ctd. To be honest ... I didn't was there for more than 100 hours of playing. I read all the moddiscriptions and comments and found no warning for conflicts.
Is there any way to check what caused the ctd? Any hints for "random users" :confused: I love this playthrough and don't want to delete over 1k of hours :sad:

Thx to anyone who tries to help me!

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

254 FE 0 ccbgssse010-petdwarvenarmoredmudcrab.esl

254 FE 1 ccbgssse014-spellpack01.esl

254 FE 2 ccbgssse037-curios.esl

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

6 6 Falskaar.esm

7 7 JRSpellPackPatch.esp

8 8 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

9 9 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

10 a Cloaks.esp

11 b Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

12 c Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

13 d Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp

14 e SkyUI_SE.esp

15 f IcePenguinWorldMap.esp

16 10 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp

17 11 RichMerchantsSkyrim_x10.esp

18 12 InigoPerkPointGiver.esp

19 13 DCR_KingCrusaderMegaPack_SSE.esp

20 14 InstantMining.esp

21 15 UnreadBooksGlow.esp

254 FE 3 CWRepairs.esp

22 16 The Great Cities - Minor Cities and Towns.esp

23 17 Civil War Aftermath.esp

24 18 Run For Your Lives.esp

25 19 SkyHavenInterior.esp

26 1a flaho_shi_eagles_nest_ENG.esp

27 1b SkystoneCastle.esp

28 1c The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

29 1d Map Markers Complete.esp

30 1e icebladeofthemonarch.esp

31 1f My Home Is Your Home.esp

32 20 AK- Boethiah Alternate.esp

33 21 UltimateBoundBow.esp

34 22 AK- Namira for Good Guys.esp

35 23 AlduinsFangMerged(SSE Conversion)--Glowmapped.esp

36 24 AutoHideAmmo.esp

37 25 LeftHandRings.esp

38 26 widescreen_skyui_fix.esp

39 27 FranklyHDImperialArmorsAndWeapons.esp

40 28 DawnguardArsenal.esp

41 29 EstherProtectionRingSE.esp

254 FE 4 Falskaar - Bug Fixes.esp

42 2a CWOGGuardArmor.esp

254 FE 5 Dawnguard Map Markers.esp

 

 

[ff7legend]

First thing I would check is whether your game version & the version of USSEP (Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch) match. Arthmoor & co code USSEP to force the end user to have the most up to date version of Skyrim SE. Running mismatched game version/USSEP version together will cause CTD in/around certain cells. Had that happen on a few occasions but was lucky I kept a previous version of USSEP so I could continue to play. The only reason I'm still running 1.5.62 runtime is due to the fact that .NET Script Framework by meh321 isn't updated for the newest runtime (1.5.80).

 

ff7legend

[ff7legend]

Also, your load order is a MESS. You need to load mods that do similar things together. Quest mods with quest mods. Weapon mods with weapon mods. Spell mods with spell mods. Player homes with player homes, etc...

 

ff7legend

[Chilliman6]

I let Loot do this ... for that i got that program ... or? :ohmy:
Sort and than apply ...

Thx anyway, I'll try to figure out your first hint so far!

*Edit: latest version of game and SKSE64. That should be okay
*Edit 2: I travelled around the wold. No ctd exept this cell. New game with same mods, went there, no ctd (but not finished the civil war campain). I find no hints to my mods that change anything in Ivarstead. I really run out of ideas :ohmy:

Edited August 9, 2019 by Chilliman6

[Arthmoor]

Arthmoor & co code USSEP to force the end user to have the most up to date version of Skyrim SE.

No, that's not what we're doing. Please don't play this kind of revisionist game with what we do. It irritates us when people say this sort of thing like we're out to make people do things.

 

Bethesda updates the game. Our project's functionality depends on things not being mismatched so we have to account for what they do. Otherwise for the vast majority of our users, the "product" we put out would be broken.

 

 

 

The only reason I'm still running 1.5.62 runtime is due to the fact that .NET Script Framework by meh321 isn't updated for the newest runtime (1.5.80).

IMO this is a pretty weak reason not to update your game, but the good news for you is that it's also no longer a valid reason. He updated it.

[Chilliman6]

Hi Arthmoor,

 

I have some of your mods in my list. Any hint what's causing my ctd or at least how I can find out why Ivarstead is "broken". It seems that this cell got many problmes due to what I read in the internet.

[Arthmoor]

I don't see anything that stands out in your load order and I've never seen reports of issues with the cells in Ivarstead before.

[Chilliman6]

Just google it ... I found more than enough :ohmy: but nothing I found was usefull, because I didn't used the mods in these threads ...

Any possibility to "reset" the cell? Not der respawning NPCs reset ... I mean to put the cell to nonmoded original version? I have no clue what could caused the "broken safegame" :sad:
I found no discription of any of my mods that had something to do with Ivarstead. I ran out of options :pinch:

[Arthmoor]

You should keep in mind that most mod authors pay no attention to posts found via Google that are more than a couple of months old. Everything you linked has dates back in 2017 which strongly suggests what caused it for them is no longer an issue.

 

Also just because someone posts that something crashes doesn't mean anything outside of their specific setups having a problem. If it were some kind of inherent problem with that area of the game it would have returned THOUSANDS of hits, not just a handful since it's a main quest area you have to go through to finish the MQ.