Nexus Mod Manager VS Vortex

[Neje2434]

I can't for the life of me find a simple damn answer. And that is, is vortex even worth using.

i cant find anywhere if it actually is worth using i know months after its release i saw people saying its not worth switching yet or whatever.

But it 8/30/2019. and im a Nexus Mod Manager user, and have been for a long time any one who says well your account was just made last year well bite me i lost my first account not even sure what email i used

But should i switch to vortex?

also dont even mention mod organizer cause to me it sucks it half ass works sometimes and ive watch so many tutorials on it that im sick of it.

and if this is not in the correct location well im sorry

( just gonna copy and paste this here cause i didnt know i couldnt have multple accounts thats my bad sorry to all admins )

( my other account got banned cause i had multiple accounts i really did not know im sorry anyways im on my original account now this one and i need this answer more then my own life right now )

[DoctorKaizeld]

Use vortex. It is better overall and works great. It does work differently to nmm though so it will require some learning to get used to nit it has a built in knowledge base that can help as well as several people here who could help if you have any issues.

[Gorsha]

I agree with DoctorKaizeld.

 

There is only one thing. If you now are active playing the game managed with NMM, my advice is to keep it that way. Exporting a NMM setup to Vortex can sometimes give troubles.

But for a new setup of a game there is in my opinion not a better manager than Vortex. After a little learning easy to use, easy and fast to switch profiles and games, and very safe.

[Neje2434]

okay thank you very much both of you a couple months after vortex released i heard people say to not use it cause of something i forgot but and ive been wondering for a while if its been out long enough to surpass NMM

[Neje2434]

ive been trying to mod skyrim to where i like it and like i see on youtube videos where its nice and clean and realistic 4k whatever but when i install mods its just like omg this messes up then that messes up then i just uninstall everything skyrim to and reinstall and do it differently been trying to find tutorials on how to mod properly and exactly like what to overwrite what not to overwrite yada yada yada

[FlamingCheeseMonkey]

The majority of the issues back then was because Vortex was legitimately a buggy mess. It was released to the public as an alpha around March of last year, and a bunch of people, for some reason, expected the software to work without issues. Despite the articles (that they should have read through) stating that there will be issues and to not use it unless if you don't mind using an alpha program and reporting the bugs. Then it was officially released as a beta in August and a bunch of new people starting using it, but the issue is that they tried and forced how they used other mod managers (whether it's NMM or Mod Organizer) onto Vortex.

As long as you're willing to learn how to use the software properly, you won't run into as many issues that other people have.

For example. Vortex relies on LOOT to hand the ordering of the plugins. With NMM you can drag and drop plugins without too much of a visual hassle (but textures not being changed at the same time as the re-ordering means that the mod may not be working properly). This also gave the user the notion of install order. Where the order of mod files (textures, meshes, sounds... etc) is dependent on install order.

With Mod Organizer, you can handle the ordering of the mod files and plugins through drag and drop and it displays nicely in a red/green plus to let you know if the mod is getting overwritten by something, or if it overwrites another mod. But this granular control of the mod files, along with the ability to adjust the plugins on the fly gave the users the impression that (especially plugins) needs to be placed directly after the conflict to work fine.

Vortex on the other hand uses the idea of sorting things based off of conflict, and conflict only. Which makes a lot of sense in the long run. After all, why do you need to care about the placement of a sound mod priority if it doesn't touch the three dozen texture/mesh mods? Why do you need to worry about the placement of a plugin that touches weight if it doesn't touch item placement in the world, lighting changes, and other environmental changes?

As for the issues, over the past few months though, at least on Reddit, a lot of the issues that I've seen are from people importing mods from NMM, then not uninstalling the mods from NMM and purging before using Vortex. Then keep NMM open while installing and doing the ordering on Vortex, before closing Vortex and then NMM. Meaning that the plugins are still relying on NMM's list, and complain that Vortex is breaking the game. Or some version of that. Which is frustrating as hell because they post later going, "Oh, MO2 works perfectly, but I also did the proper uninstall procedure of NMM, removed NMM entirely from my computer, before opening MO2". So... basically the same thing that was needed to get Vortex running? Lovely.

That, or they hate the UI of Vortex (or they say that, "Oh, Vortex doesn't have this feature but MO2 does". And that is a load of bull. Vortex probably had that feature for ages but because they used Vortex when it was Alpha or go off of what other people said when they used the Alpha version, they believe that nothing changed. True, Vortex is missing a few features of MO2, but that's probably less than three at this point, and the same could be said vice versa. But it's definitely not as many as people say it is).

Gah, sorry for ranting. As you can probably tell, I've been really frustrated with Reddit users when it comes to Vortex. And it doesn't help that there are people there who immediately down vote if it sounds like Vortex is even getting the slightest of praise and up vote anyone that says anything bad about it (even if the entirely of the thing that was said is a lie, or was no longer the case since September of last year).

Edit: A word was missing >.>'.

[HadToRegister]

ive been trying to mod skyrim to where i like it and like i see on youtube videos where its nice and clean and realistic 4k whatever but when i install mods its just like omg this messes up then that messes up then i just uninstall everything skyrim to and reinstall and do it differently been trying to find tutorials on how to mod properly and exactly like what to overwrite what not to overwrite yada yada yada

 

 

That info is usually in the STICKY, or on the Description Page of the mods you're installing, which is why it's imperative that you read them.

 

Also, in Vortex, you don't have to worry about "Overwrite or Don't Overwrite, when it comes to Installing mods, you can install them in any order you want, then Vortex will let you know if you have any file conflicts, and THAT, is where you can decided What overwrites, or is overwritten, and even better, if you overwrite the wrong stuff, you don't have to uninstall and reinstall in the correct order like NMM forces you to do.

Instead all of have to do is change your rules from "LOAD BEFORE' to "LOAD AFTER" or vice versa and Vortex will handle restoring and overwriting the files for you automatically.

[Neje2434]

ahh okay thank you both that helps alot it took me a minute to understand what yall mean but i think i got the gist of it thanks alot

[Ayures]

Looks like Nexus is forcing Vortex on everyone now. NMM wouldn't even login anymore so I couldn't download anything.

 

Now I'm stuck with this Vortex trash that doesn't even seem to work. I guess I have to go through all of my mods one by one and reenable them but this Vortex garbage won't even manage them anymore. Why even use this when I can go through the same hassle with the built-in mod manager F4 has?

 

[edit] I've found the community-updated NMM. Unfortunately, the dumpsterfire that is Vortex still disabled all of my mods. I guess I'll have to enable them all and watch F4 crash a thousand times while I try to figure out which mods I had disabled. Thanks, Nexus!

[HadToRegister]

Looks like Nexus is forcing Vortex on everyone now. NMM wouldn't even login anymore so I couldn't download anything.

 

Now I'm stuck with this Vortex trash that doesn't even seem to work. I guess I have to go through all of my mods one by one and reenable them but this Vortex garbage won't even manage them anymore. Why even use this when I can go through the same hassle with the built-in mod manager F4 has?

 

[edit] I've found the community-updated NMM. Unfortunately, the dumpsterfire that is Vortex still disabled all of my mods. I guess I'll have to enable them all and watch F4 crash a thousand times while I try to figure out which mods I had disabled. Thanks, Nexus!

 

 

If you're going to comment at least use FACTS.

 

Nexus is not FORCING Vortex on Anybody, you can still download NMM from GitHub, an updated version that works with the News API.

 

All you have to do is hit the INSTALL VORTEX button at the top of every nexus page, then scroll down to where the DOWNLOAD NMM buttons are.

 

If you bothered to read the Knowledge Base, you'd Know that you could just use CTRL+A and hit ENABLE ALL instead of doing them one by one, but people like you like to complain rather than LEARN.

 

Every time someone comes in here calling Vortex "Trash" etc, it ALWAYS turns out its USER ERROR