Deleted1308005User Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 When exactly is it mentioned that the Alik'r are top tier frontline soldiers? I don't remember that ever being mentioned during the one quest they are involved in.http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Alik'r_Warrior "Have you seen those warriors from Hammerfell? They've got curved swords. Curved. Swords." Redguards are generally good with swords. There's information of the Alik'r and other Redguard groups in various books in Skyrim and TES series. (Sword-singers was it?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBeanie Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 That link doesn't say anything about their abilities or skill...The Alik'r in Skyrim, seem a lot more like assassins than anything else in my opinion. Besides the obvious difference that they are rather unsubtle about their mission.Think about the response of the guards of Whiterun to the two Alik'r, they sound like the hold some dislike against them, I think it would make sense for guardsmen to hold this opinion if the Alik'r had a reputation for causing trouble. Which leads me to believe they are no more than a mercenary company. I think that if they were renowned frontline warriors, then they would be held with far more respect and carry a better reputation. Just a few of my thoughts on the subject. Disclaimer: This post is mostly made up of assumptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimReaper Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 (edited) When exactly is it mentioned that the Alik'r are top tier frontline soldiers? I don't remember that ever being mentioned during the one quest they are involved in. Redguards in General are known as some of the fiercest warriors in Tamriel. Here are some Wiki quotes. 'They make arguably the best knight due to having the best starting skill in One-Handed in addition to their skill in Block.' 'Like previous Elder Scrolls games, the Redguards excel in combat.' 'They are descended from a long line of warriors and mystic seers. Legend has it that Redguards are innately more proficient with the use of weaponry than any other race. They are excellent in all arts concerning blade and shield. The most naturally talented warriors in Tamriel,' Special abilities: Adrenaline Rush: Stamina regenerates 10x faster for 60 seconds. Everything points to frontline. They are a warrior race, they are the best natural fighters in Tamriel. The reason a lot of people think of them as assassins is because they look different but this is a design choice to distingush the differences in their culture. i suppose its open to opinon Edited May 21, 2013 by JimReaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witcher5688 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 we must be careful with our credo models of we find them in Doraleous armory, who sell models and textures from skyrim mods for 100-300L$https://marketplace.secondlife.com/stores/129520?search%5Bmaturity%5D=General&search%5Bpage%5D=1&search%5Bper_page%5D=12&search%5Bstore_id%5D=129520 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentStorm Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 That link doesn't say anything about their abilities or skill...The Alik'r in Skyrim, seem a lot more like assassins than anything else in my opinion. Besides the obvious difference that they are rather unsubtle about their mission.Think about the response of the guards of Whiterun to the two Alik'r, they sound like the hold some dislike against them, I think it would make sense for guardsmen to hold this opinion if the Alik'r had a reputation for causing trouble. Which leads me to believe they are no more than a mercenary company. I think that if they were renowned frontline warriors, then they would be held with far more respect and carry a better reputation. Just a few of my thoughts on the subject. Disclaimer: This post is mostly made up of assumptions. From my understanding of the lore, Redguards make a comfortable living as adventurers, pirates and mercenaries. So it makes sense they would have at least some sort of protection on their attire. Though i agree they shouldnt have the look of a soldier. And this makes me think that luddermans design of the alik'r clothing/armour is a perfect representation of them. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBeanie Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 (edited) When exactly is it mentioned that the Alik'r are top tier frontline soldiers? I don't remember that ever being mentioned during the one quest they are involved in. Everything points to frontline. They are a warrior race, they are the best natural fighters in Tamriel. The reason a lot of people think of them as assassins is because they look different but this is a design choice to distingush the differences in their culture. i suppose its open to opinonSo you're saying every Redguard in an army fights on the frontline... that's what's confusing me about this debate...I'm perfectly aware that Redguards are some of the best fighters in Tamriel, but that doesn't mean they are all some of the best. Just like all Bretons aren't the best mages.I don't think the Alik'r's clothing looks like an assassin's, but they act and are reacted to as either assassins or a mercenary band with poor reputation.Another fact that makes me unsure of the Redguards being frontline pure warriors is this line in "Pocket Guide to the Empire: Hammerfell" "[Redguards] are indifferent soldiers, being unwilling to defer to authority or endure military discipline, and few serve in the Ruby ranks. There is no standing army in Hammerfell"This implies to me that they wouldn't use tactics that involved meeting the enemy head to head, rather, they would fight a lot more like skirmishers or perform hit-and-run attacks. Edited May 21, 2013 by McBeanie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luddemann Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Ok, the discussion about the redguards is over! Yes reguards are very good fighters and I sure they are frontline soldier. But the Alikr is not the same as redguards. Yes, they are redguards, but they are not the sterotypical redguards. These guys have come to assassinate a woman in skyrim, not fight in a frontline. There will be no metal plating. Apart from maybe adding a helmet, the design is finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyrusAmell Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 (edited) Well that's all right, though I didn't think they would make the top of the list of human factions in your projects. Onto to other matters, your team has made a large variety of new imperial equipment. Their armory certainly dwarfs the number of Stormcloak armors to be seen since Actus' computer suffered it's calamity. However, I was wondering if you planned on adding more Stormcloak armors or reconfiguring standard imperial armors to match the rebel's theme? TMK created this excellent armor with what appears to be a sallet below: http://static.skyrim.nexusmods.com/images/2829162-1365857119.png Is it possible to make it blue and put fur on it to match the other Stormcloak armors or does that clash with the mod's objectives? By all means what you have is more than enough to outfit the Stormcloaks of course, but I wanted to ask nevertheless. Edited May 22, 2013 by CyrusAmell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMedievalsKnights Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 (edited) Stormcloacks don't wear sallet.And you can forget all the imperial armours I made, I've made exact copy of those of Actus and we'll use them, the other armours I created will be used in a standalone mod.@Witcher : What the hell is going wrong with this site, they are selling mesh that are copyrighted !@Luddy : Those meshes are far better, keep all of them :smile:, really nice wotk, I currently making a battlemage armour for the Winterhold heavy soldiers Edited May 22, 2013 by TheMedievalsKnights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMedievalsKnights Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Ok, the discussion about the redguards is over! Yes reguards are very good fighters and I sure they are frontline soldier. But the Alikr is not the same as redguards. Yes, they are redguards, but they are not the sterotypical redguards. These guys have come to assassinate a woman in skyrim, not fight in a frontline. There will be no metal plating. Apart from maybe adding a helmet, the design is finished.You completly right, redguard discussion is over :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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