blackhand8657 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 I have a recurring crash issue and it is always around the same area: Just outside Warren Theater when I try to take on the raiders nearby, it crashes every time I get close to them or bring up the pipboy. The game ran perfectly up to that point, not one crash. I know the Papyrus logs are not necessarily crash logs but every time it crashes its always the same 2 scripts that show up at the time of the crashes: BirdSpawnerScript.psc and SpotlightScript.psc. Not really sure which script is the problem. I did just uninstall Springtime Trees mod because I read somewhere it can cause issues with the BirdSpawner script (stupid birds). I was able to go back to an earlier save and fast travel away from the area and chilled at Vault 111 I have Fallrim Tools but I've never really used the Script Cleaner because I'm always iffy about using programs I'm not familiar with but I am wondering and hoping the script cleaner would help with this crashing issue. I also have Misriah Armory and MA37-BR55 mod installed with the ammo counters but I think the script for the counters might be an issue too. I have downloaded the non-counter versions but havent installed them yet Any advice on how to handle this problem? I really want to avoid starting a new game... again if I dont need to. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadToRegister Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Make a copy of the save game and use the script cleaner on the copy, that way if it doesn't work, you still have your original save game Also, in your post you said you uninstalled Springtime Trees, and it sounds like you uninstalled it during a current game.You shouldn't do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhand8657 Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share Posted October 24, 2019 Make a copy of the save game and use the script cleaner on the copy, that way if it doesn't work, you still have your original save game Also, in your post you said you uninstalled Springtime Trees, and it sounds like you uninstalled it during a current game.You shouldn't do that.Yea, I wasnt sure if it would harm anything since its mostly a mesh/texture replacer and I never edited the INI file like mod page said to do. I'll give the cleaner a shot, hope it works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhand8657 Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share Posted October 25, 2019 <Heavy Sigh> Guess I'm gonna have to start a new game... again. Well, thank God for Transfer Settlements though, that makes this a little less a pain. Thing is, I have alot of mods, theres alot I dont wanna give up, thats what makes this difficult. I'm gonna post my load order if anyone has any suggestions of what I should ditch. 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blackhand8657 Posted November 5, 2019 Author Share Posted November 5, 2019 After uninstalling several problematic mods such as Springtime Trees, Custom Combat Armor, Misriah Armory (Ammo Counter script), etc and starting a new game AGAIN and I am STILL getting CTD in the exact same spot and EXACT same circumstances - The raiders just outside Warren Theater, every time I take aim at them, it crashes. I read the papyrus the first crash and its the SpotlightScript.psc that is the last thing before the crash. The second time after removing the script file from the directory, I get this as the last thing in the log:[11/05/2019 - 02:59:35AM] error: (00181278): Cannot call SnapIntoInteraction on actors without 3D.stack: [ (00181278)].Actor.SnapIntoInteraction() - "<native>" Line ? [ (0022B37A)].EMSystemTurfScript.SendToSleep() - "g:\_F4\Art\Raw\Scripts\EMSystemTurfScript.psc" Line 190 [ (0022B37A)].EMSystemTurfScript.OnCellLoad() - "g:\_F4\Art\Raw\Scripts\EMSystemTurfScript.psc" Line 65[11/05/2019 - 02:59:48AM] info: *Achievement 46 awarded - a winnar is you!*[11/05/2019 - 02:59:48AM] info: *Achievement 47 awarded - a winnar is you!*[11/05/2019 - 02:59:48AM] info: *Achievement 48 awarded - a winnar is you!* Please, if someone can shed some light on the issue, I would really appreciate it. I am getting so fed up with the same BS, I just want to enjoy my game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKKmods Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 When you highlight an actor non scripted spell/magic effects or perk conditions will fire which suggests one of them is probably the issue rather than a script. Spotlight and ems script errors are common, just unhandled conditions. Snapintointeraction is what is called on furniture, power armor and vertibirds. If you can pop the console and get the reference ids from the offending actors by clicking on them and compare to the actor ids in the log. Same or different ? Should be different as 3d is not loaded in the script error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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