The shaming of non-premium users needs to stop!

[RGMage2]

but if you are using that script, you should be aware that you are crossing a line.

 

I'm not sure if you are pointing that at me directly of just speaking generally, but as a Premium Member I obviously have no reason to use a script like that. This change has no effect on me and I wouldn't even be aware of it if people weren't speaking out about it. I just brought it to the attention of yourself and others because of the inevitability of such a thing happening - action and reaction.

 

The internet can be a tough place to do business. In the old days an irate person might have thrown a rock through the window of a brick and mortar store, now they have other options.

 

As a Premium Member I have no regrets about my purchase and I highly recommend going Premium to anyone who wants to spend significant time here, as it will enhance your experience. On the other hand, it is up to each individual to decide how they spend their money and no one should give in to pressure to go Premium if they do not see the value in it.

[HadToRegister]

 

but if you are using that script, you should be aware that you are crossing a line.

 

I'm not sure if you are pointing that at me directly of just speaking generally, but as a Premium Member I obviously have no reason to use a script like that. This change has no effect on me and I wouldn't even be aware of it if people weren't speaking out about it. I just brought it to the attention of yourself and others because of the inevitability of such a thing happening - action and reaction.

 

The internet can be a tough place to do business. In the old days an irate person might have thrown a rock through the window of a brick and mortar store, now they have other options.

 

As a Premium Member I have no regrets about my purchase and I highly recommend going Premium to anyone who wants to spend significant time here, as it will enhance your experience. On the other hand, it is up to each individual to decide how they spend their money and no one should give in to pressure to go Premium if they do not see the value in it.

 

 

 

But you provided it to others, which would most likely get you in trouble with the TOS as well.

[fireundubh]

I'm not sure if you are pointing that at me directly of just speaking generally

 

Generally. You already said you're a Premium member and we can see that badge plainly. No reason I'd be referring to you specifically.

[RGMage2]

 

 

 

 

 

But you provided it to others, which would most likely get you in trouble with the TOS as well.

 

If moderators feel that my post was particularly egregious then I am sure they will act on it. For the record, if they banned me I would accept it, not ask to be reinstated, not ask for a refund, and not remove my mods. I might choose to update them somewhere else, but even then I think I would continue to recommend Nexus Premium Membership to anyone who was spending a lot of time here.

[GaStuSage]

We did have an amicable relationship with our community manager. They started disappearing and obviously people became frustrated. And our community moderator supposedly has contact with them, but again, none of the concerns have been directly addressed with communication back to us. I'd love to provide updates on our suggestions and concerns, but sadly have nothing.

 

Fair enough point about the holidays and vacation time, though perhaps I'm spoiled by other devs/businesses. I also work in healthcare, in which holidays just mean overtime pay XD We can agree to disagree on that one.

 

I did find an interesting tidbit while checking around some documents though, that'd I like to leave here, as food for thought. Any emphasis is my own.

 

From: https://help.nexusmods.com/article/96-download-speed-caps-adblockers-and-different-types-of-membership

 

On the flip side, we do not want to punish users who want to use Adblockers but do not financially contribute to the running of the site. There are myriad different reasons why users choose to use Adblockers, and a lot of them are perfectly valid. For these users, their experience is not changing at all. They'll still be able to browse the site and receive the exact same experience as they always have done in the past.

In conclusion, we like to reward users who contribute financially to the running of the site, but not punish users who use Adblockers.

 

 

 

Healthcare... I applaud you, but yikes - no wonder you're p*ssed. LOL - I hope that jest is not taken poorly; no offense is meant.

 

Yes, we can always agree to disagree. I wonder if the usage of the word punish is a matter of debate as well. Good luck to you, and here's to hoping this issue doesn't cause you, and others, too much distress in the future.

 

 

Ok, there's a lot going on in this thread right now. And there's a lot that I really would like to comment on, and really do want to reply back to. But, I confuse easily, and get sidetracked even more easily, LOL.

But first and foremost, I will reiterate. I'm not a member of the staff here, or employed by Robin, or the Nexus. Just to make that clear. Again.

For clarification.... yes, back in my day, I was a fine, upstanding, well thought of member of the community, *cough* Is it getting thick in here? *cough*

and yes... I'd been privileged enough to have some dealings with some of the staff at the time. That was like....2010 to 2011-ish? I remember us hitting the 3 million membership mark, and all of use cheering about it. But, one guy in a sea of 3 million? I'm pretty sure most of them don't even remember me.

That however, does not mean that I don't remember them, still believe in them, and yes, still respect and appreciate them. And all that they have done for me, us, and the nexus.

 

That said, Thank you, to those who read what I said, and were appreciative of it, and could see the point of view. I do appreciate that. Thanks!

And thank you for the compliments, I do "Try" as the saying goes.

 

I'm not backpeddling when I post this, I wholeheartedly agree, that when I respond to somebody, I don't look to see if they've got a banner, or a tag under their name. Granted, I do look to see how long they've been here. But people are people. Just like a lot of us here, I'll respond to so and so, the way that so and so has been dealing with me, and/or everybody else.

(With restraint in some cases, I just got back, I don't wanna get banned already!) :laugh:

 

I'll say this to everybody. Not to anybody in particular. We are all guests in a house. Robin's house. The only real expectations that are put on us, are to follow the rules of his house, and to be civil to each other, and not pick fights with each other, or the members of the staff.

As some of the Native Americans say when you come into their home "Come in peace, and stay in peace".

 

That said, This cast is making my broken hand achy, and there's probly more people back in the FO4 forums that need help, so off I probly have a lot more typing ahead of me. Off I go.

As they said in Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.....

"Be excellent to one another!"

Well said, Storm. A trivial banner shouldn't matter in regards to how we conduct ourselves toward each other, here, or anywhere for that matter. We're all just human here, mixed with a few angels, demons, aliens, wolves, orcs, etc... Disagreements are inevitable and stronger communities persevere and grow on the other end of them as long as the spirit of compromise can be maintained.

 

You're also right in pointing out that this is no individual's house, it's the Nexus', and, as far as I see it, their doors are still open for all us to walk through and enjoy all the "stufff" contained within - even to orcs like myself who have been helping themselves to their meat and mead for ages without so much as a thought or thanks. It may be that a lot of the "stuff" within this house was brought in by other folks willing to share, but the Nexus staff - former and current - built the building in which folk can come in from the weather and enjoy it, and so they hold the key. Thanks to them, the modders, and the community at large for making this place a decent place to spend a moment or two. Let's not loose that.

[axonis]

I've been in contact with a member of the Nexus staff. They are aware of the script, as well as that it breaks certain elements of the site, and they have confirmed that using that script is a TOS violation. The consequences for using that script have not been disclosed to me, but if you are using that script, you should be aware that you are crossing a line.

 

Do you have any official capacity here ?

[fireundubh]

Do you have any official capacity here ?

 

Strange question.

[axonis]

 

Do you have any official capacity here ?

 

Strange question.

 

You are telling another user that they are crossing a line.

 

So I am asking again, do you have any official capacity here ?

[Mudran]

A one time payment of $2 gets rid of ads forever.

 

If it is so little why bother? I'm not talking about 1 payment, I was talking about supporting this site. So I was trying to support this site differently as a mod author. Apparently it wasn't enough...

And I don't like Fandom because they are creating monopoly on gaming wikies for some reason and I don't like monopoly. It was interesting to read their history - how they started as wiki for games, then they partnered and were consumed by Fandom company which is advertisement company and now they are creating monopoly. and I don't understand why they have to annoy people with asking them if they can run ads if it can be done in a different way.

I don't like advertising /marketing companies creating this whole culture of annoyances in the name of working revenue. Bethesda MMO, their launcher and Fallout 76 is built on annoying features, and it is spreading now the same way like lootboxes before - why bother people all the time?

[Guest deleted34304850]

 

 

Do you have any official capacity here ?

 

Strange question.

 

You are telling another user that they are crossing a line.

 

So I am asking again, do you have any official capacity here ?

 

reads to me like a very community spirit oriented post. he's advising someone who may not be aware that there could be trouble ahead.