Explicit permission needed but modder left a year ago.

[zdennnis]

 

 

So there is a mod I would like to port to SE/VR. But the author left about a year ago and left the following message:

 

"I have decided to leave modding.

That doesn't mean you can use my files as you see fit. If you want to make changes to my files and upload them somewhere for public scrutiny you have to have my EXPLICIT permission."

 

 

Does this mean his mod is (probably) for ever lost?

 

 

 

You can go to the mod author's profile page, and it will show the last time the Mod Author was active.

If you're in luck, it will be a very recent date, like today or yesterday, otherwise, if it's like 2015, then...

 

 

 

I left a message just in case. But yeah I wrote "a year ago" because I checked and the last time he was only was January.

It's a real shame because I got it working in vr :sad:

[Deleted54170User]

Ah! That's a real shame. I get the impression the modder guy knows you better than we all realize. And he won't talk to you because he does. :devil: :laugh:

 

Or! Hey! Maybe the modder is one of those people that knows... :devil: Do you feel like you're kind of like a fish that is on a hook. You know! The modder knows that people will like it so much they'll let gamers dangle there like a fish on a hook. :ohmy: :sad:

 

If the latter is the case. Maybe you better spit it out of your games before the hook gets any deeper and you can't.

 

Ooo! :ohmy: Such evil! :devil:

[StormWolf01]

Your words suggest your creative thinking has a + sign growing there in, because you like the mod so much that it's the driving force. Play with the mod on your machine. Let your idea play on your mind and grow. Use the CK to mod and make your own attachable parts to it.

 

Without cutting up or calling a mod your own, mod your idea as it has grown. Keep your mod as a separate part to upload to where ever you want and share it however you want.

 

Then you don't step on anyone's fingers who spent all their time to please others.

 

Ok, with all due respect, this isn't entirely accurate, Pagafyr.

In this instance, where it's a conversion/adaptation/fix for VR I will openly profess that I don't know what a fix for this entails. However, if the mod cannot be uploaded as a simple patch file, without containing ANY of the original content of the mod, then it is in violation of the specified instructions, by that author.

Now, while I do not know what mod the post is talking about, so I can't see their exact permissions. But I DO know, that as an author, the author has to option to block any patches made, for their mods. Or require permission to do so.

Those permissions will be required to be shown upon immediate request by the staff, if they are not proven in the mod description. Failure to do so will result in the mod immediately being hidden from view, and an investigation will be conducted, by the staff. Failure to provide satisfactory permissions can result in either a warning, or a ban, depending on the severity of the situation.

Now, here is the other catch. If the author gets wind that the patch is available on another site, where they don't give permission to do patches, and/or prohibit the uploading of their work to other sites... and it's provable that the author of the patch is here on the nexus, there goes their membership on the nexus, as a ban for mod theft.

Also, the very wording that was posted in relation to said nameless mod, infers that uploading to other sites, requires permissions. That extends to patches, as well.

 

Like I said with all due respect, I'm not trying to say, no, you're wrong. But, without us being able to see what the other mod's permissions are, we can't make generalizations like that. Because somebody could end up getting banned over our mistake.

 

 

what if you had the idea of it. but the code / design is completely different? would the idea itself be acceptable to use / use in bad faith / shouldn't be used at all.

 

-edit - I add on to this convo bc my thinking is. at some point, all the main ideas will be taken, and If you're not allowed to use said ideas (not the code or actual work) then at some point in the future, no one will be able to do anything

 

This is situational. It all depends. IF the end result is the same, but the methods are entirely different, there is no issue. You didn't use somebody else's work to make your mod.

Now, if said mod uses similar, or the same methods to achieve a result....

I'll use fallout 4 as an example, because it's what I'm playing now. Say that I make a mod that makes a certain outfit wearable under armor. My method simply changes an entry in the armor, that is already a part of the CK.

Somebody else comes along in 2 years, and does exactly the same. I have no claim on that. Because it's something that is already there, in the CK that bethesda distributed. Because all I did, was use tools already given to me to use. The mod technically, is not my creation.

That gets technical, in cases of that.

[StormWolf01]

 

 

So there is a mod I would like to port to SE/VR. But the author left about a year ago and left the following message:

 

"I have decided to leave modding.

That doesn't mean you can use my files as you see fit. If you want to make changes to my files and upload them somewhere for public scrutiny you have to have my EXPLICIT permission."

 

 

Does this mean his mod is (probably) for ever lost?

 

You could leave a message a the mod's comment thread asking for permission. The author might still be looking in from time to time. It happens. :smile:

 

In some cases, that pretty much is the only thing that you can do.

Tho I dunno if this has changed or not, but it used to be that you don't get notifications to posts made to the comments section of your mod page.

And.... a lot of us (myself highly guilty of this) don't check my mod pages very often after a week or so of them going live. (but I also don't release mods that require support, either [for that very reason] ). Ok, so that Has changed. Please disregard. Thank you very much, for the correction DoctorKaizeld.

Edited December 19, 2019 by StormWolf01

[DoctorKaizeld]

Yes you get notifications on your mod pages. Been there since I joined. Check your settings

[StormWolf01]

Yes you get notifications on your mod pages. Been there since I joined. Check your settings

Ah! Good to know! Thanks for that Doctor.

I'd left back in 2012, I think. Back then, our pages didn't send them.