ABorstov123 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 I've installed some mods on a new playthrough of Fallout 3. Sometimes in Megaton house it freezes and I have to reboot my PC. I was exploring the wasteland and it froze then said Fallout 3 has stopped working. Could somebody please take a look at my load order and see if anything is wrong? I'm also using "Midhrastic ENB" GameMode=Fallout3 Fallout3.esm=1Anchorage.esm=1ThePitt.esm=1BrokenSteel.esm=1PointLookout.esm=1Zeta.esm=1Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm=1CALIBR.esm=1FOOK2 - Main.ESM=1FOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.ESM=1Mothership Crew.esm=1CRAFT.esm=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm=1Mart's Mutant Mod.esm=1Project Beauty.esm=1DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm=1EVE.esm=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp=1BetterGamePerformance.esp=1GNR Enhanced.esp=1UPP - Pack 1.esp=1FOOK2 - Main.esp=1UPP - Pack 2.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp=1Chems and Meds Re-Textures Pack.esp=1FOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.esp=1Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp=1FOOK2 - DIK [Hotfix].esp=1UndergroundHideout.esp=1FOOK2 - Main [Hotfix].esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp=1URWLENB-002-Interiors.esp=0Realistic Interior Lighting.esp=1WeaponModKits.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp=1Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp=1dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp=1Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp=1Realistic Interior Lighting - PL.esp=1F3ProjectRealityMkI.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp=1HZSmoothLight - FO3.esp=1Flora Overhaul.esp=1teslaPA -retextured.esp=1 I am using LOOT to sort my load order. Also, LOOT shows the following error messages: https://i.imgur.com/ypPpmnJ.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/IGzGigV.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/hVUEJ7i.png How do I fix these and what impact are they having on my game? Thank you so much for any help <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous95 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Its likely a mod for sure. But which one I couldn't say. You do have alot of heavy mods and this could be the issue. I had these same problems but I also have a crappy computer. I don't remember if I shared most of these but I know for sure I had FOOK. FOOK is script heavy. Theres also a possibility for DC Interiors because it adds alot of locations though I've never had issues with it some people have. My bet is on Marts Mutant Mod. I had issues with the one for New Vegas. Because of all the monsters spawns I got crashes and freezing this is common for people with crap computers. Im not sure if there is a less spawns option I believe there was for NV but I never recommend uninstalling a mod mid-game always restart. Id recommend looking into those 3 mods and see if anyone has had similar issues with them. Hope this helps a bit and good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M48A5 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 You cannot use both FWE and FOOK together. Choose one or the other. You cannot rely on LOOT to provide a working load list. It has never sorted FO3 mods correctly. Ignore the LOOT warnings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABorstov123 Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 This is my new load order - could anybody advise if I need to move things around? I've followed the load order compatibility list best I could but still unsure if it's a good order or not. There are compatibility patches etc. which I'm unsure on which ones to download - I've downloaded the Blackened patch for FWE, MMM, EVE and Project Beauty but unsure if there are any more I need to download. GameMode=Fallout3 Fallout3.esm=1Anchorage.esm=1ThePitt.esm=1BrokenSteel.esm=1PointLookout.esm=1Zeta.esm=1Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm=1CRAFT.esm=1CALIBR.esm=1Project Beauty.esm=1Mothership Crew.esm=1EVE.esm=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm=1DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm=1Mart's Mutant Mod.esm=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp=0Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp=1Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp=1BetterGamePerformance.esp=1GNR Enhanced.esp=1UPP - Pack 1.esp=1UPP - Pack 2.esp=1Chems and Meds Re-Textures Pack.esp=1UndergroundHideout.esp=1URWLENB-002-Interiors.esp=0Realistic Interior Lighting.esp=1dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp=1Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp=1Realistic Interior Lighting - PL.esp=1F3ProjectRealityMkI.esp=1HZSmoothLight - FO3.esp=1Flora Overhaul.esp=1teslaPA -retextured.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp=1WeaponModKits.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp=1Blackened FWE + MMM + EVE + Project Beauty.esp=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M48A5 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Read over your load order and remove the unnecessary plugins. Then re-read the instructions for the use of Blackened and MMM. I don't use WMK, but I think you need some patches for FWE and MMM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABorstov123 Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 Which ones are the unnecessary plugins? I'm sorry for being a pain in the ass but I am not always certain when it comes to modding and from what I gather reading Blackened and MMM, it just states "Note that, as of version 3.3 of this mod, any and all MMM-related can only be used in conjuction the Paradox Ignition merged version of Marts Mutant Mod. Failure to do so will result in your game crashing on startup." which I have downloaded and followed the instructions by disabling MMM .esps and .esms after using the Paradox Ignition mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M48A5 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 The MMM .esm and .esp re still shown as active in your load order. You have two FWE=Optional Restore Tracers active, use only one. These are the unnecessary plugins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABorstov123 Posted December 21, 2019 Author Share Posted December 21, 2019 C The MMM .esm and .esp re still shown as active in your load order. You have two FWE=Optional Restore Tracers active, use only one. These are the unnecessary plugins.Could you take a look at this load order please? I've been sure to only use one of the Optional Restore Tracers .esp now. I've done a complete reinstall of Fallout 3 and I'm not using MMM anymore - I'm just using Project Beauty, EVE and FWE. The majority of my mods aren't script-editing mods; they're texture mods like NMC textures, terrain, clutter etc. I have followed the load order best I could from the FWE page on NMM (https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/2761?tab=description) GameMode=Fallout3 Fallout3.esm=1Anchorage.esm=1ThePitt.esm=1BrokenSteel.esm=1PointLookout.esm=1Zeta.esm=1CRAFT.esm=1CALIBR.esm=1Project Beauty.esm=1Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm=1Alton, IL.esm=1EVE.esm=1Mothership Crew.esm=1StreetLights.esm=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp=0Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp=1Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp=1AltonAddon.esp=1GNR Enhanced.esp=1Conelrad 640-1240.esp=1Chems and Meds Re-Textures Pack.esp=1Flora Overhaul.esp=1dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1teslaPA -retextured.esp=1F3ProjectRealityMkI.esp=1UndergroundHideout.esp=1BetterGamePerformance.esp=1Realistic Interior Lighting.esp=1Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp=1Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp=1Realistic Interior Lighting - PL.esp=1HZSmoothLight - FO3.esp=1UPP - Pack 1.esp=1UPP - Pack 2.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp=0FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp=1WeaponModKits.esp=1WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp=1WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp=1WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp=1WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp=1WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp=1WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp=1Blackened FWE + EVE + Project Beauty.esp=1URWLENB-002-Interiors.esp=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M48A5 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Remove the uunused plugins and move StreetLights.esm to load between ThePitt.esm and BrokenSteel.esm. You don't mention using FOSE. It is a requirement for a lot of the mods you are using. Did the game ever run? If you are using Windows 10, have the game in "Program Files" or you are using the Steam version of the game, there are additional steps you need to take to get the game to run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABorstov123 Posted December 21, 2019 Author Share Posted December 21, 2019 Remove the uunused plugins and move StreetLights.esm to load between ThePitt.esm and BrokenSteel.esm. You don't mention using FOSE. It is a requirement for a lot of the mods you are using. Did the game ever run? If you are using Windows 10, have the game in "Program Files" or you are using the Steam version of the game, there are additional steps you need to take to get the game to run. The unused plugins like URWENB.esp, optional restore tracers and alternate travel are not active but I will also delete them from my data folder too. I have FOSE installed without any issues and the game runs for about 10-15 minutes before randomly freezing and saying Fallout 3 has stopped working. I have Steam version and it's installed in my F: drive. F: > Steam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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