M48A5 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I would suggest you make the game Large Address Aware https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/6510, add New Vegas Anti Crashhttps://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/53635 and add Fallout Stutter Remover https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/8886. These are all files that will help game performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABorstov123 Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 I've done everything I can possibly think of. Changing .ini settings, using the 4gb patch, the LAA, stutter remover, NVAC etc. but it just decides to freeze randomly typically when I press E to go through a door, but it's done it sometimes when I'm walking the wasteland. Still freezing randomly, doesn't appear to be in any particular area. I'm not even convinced it is my mods now because that'd likely just CTD and that's not happening. LOOT isn't giving me any errors other the unofficial patch has 2 deleted nav mesh files, although this shouldn't cause freezing, but cause a crash instead I think. https://i.imgur.com/bzXmTo5.png & https://i.imgur.com/DVFIpd5.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M48A5 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 LOOT does not now nor has it ever sorted FO3 mods correctly. Just check the FWE page for a sample load order and compare it to the mess LOOT gives you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABorstov123 Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 LOOT does not now nor has it ever sorted FO3 mods correctly. Just check the FWE page for a sample load order and compare it to the mess LOOT gives you.I appreciate your help but I am not using LOOT to sort my load order. My load order matches the FWE page. I am not even using LOOT often, only to check if it gives me any errors. My load order has been manually sorted. Fallout 3 isn't crashing, it's literally just freezing and states "Fallout 3 has stopped working". I'm not sure how to fix it because it's doing it without mods too and I've tried all the stuff I can think of - .ini patches, 4gb, LAA etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purr4me Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 LOOT does not now nor has it ever sorted FO3 mods correctly. Just check the FWE page for a sample load order and compare it to the mess LOOT gives you.I appreciate your help but I am not using LOOT to sort my load order. My load order matches the FWE page. I am not even using LOOT often, only to check if it gives me any errors. My load order has been manually sorted. Fallout 3 isn't crashing, it's literally just freezing and states "Fallout 3 has stopped working". I'm not sure how to fix it because it's doing it without mods too and I've tried all the stuff I can think of - .ini patches, 4gb, LAA etc. Please provide me with the latest saved game file. Allow me to inspect the software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABorstov123 Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 LOOT does not now nor has it ever sorted FO3 mods correctly. Just check the FWE page for a sample load order and compare it to the mess LOOT gives you.I appreciate your help but I am not using LOOT to sort my load order. My load order matches the FWE page. I am not even using LOOT often, only to check if it gives me any errors. My load order has been manually sorted. Fallout 3 isn't crashing, it's literally just freezing and states "Fallout 3 has stopped working". I'm not sure how to fix it because it's doing it without mods too and I've tried all the stuff I can think of - .ini patches, 4gb, LAA etc. Please provide me with the latest saved game file. Allow me to inspect the software. Wow, if you don't mind that'd be great. Here you go. https://filebin.net/vsa26vxdw3veo0s4 I can get through maybe 5-15 minutes of playing before it freezes and states Fallout 3 has stopped working. It doesn't seem to be for any particular reason as it's done it after entering an interior, during combat, just roaming around etc. I am using Windows 10 and I have installed the 4gb patch, LAA and most of the other stuff to allow it to run on Windows 10. I don't know if it's my mods causing the freezing or the game itself. I actually suspect it's the game itself because it says Fallout 3 has stopped working after freezing, rather than immediately crashing to the desktop and LOOT isn't giving me any indicators that any of my mods are conflicting. I used FO3Edit to clean all of the DLC .esms as they had ITMs etc. The only warning LOOT gives is that the Unofficial patch has 2 undeleted nav meshes although I'm not quite sure this would be causing the game to freeze. FYI, the latest Load Order is this: GameMode=Fallout3 Fallout3.esm=1Anchorage.esm=1ThePitt.esm=1BrokenSteel.esm=1PointLookout.esm=1Zeta.esm=1Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm=1CALIBR.esm=1Project Beauty.esm=1EVE.esm=1Mothership Crew.esm=1Alton, IL.esm=1CRAFT.esm=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm=1Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp=1Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp=1AltonAddon.esp=1GNR Enhanced.esp=1Conelrad 640-1240.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp=1Chems and Meds Re-Textures Pack.esp=1Flora Overhaul.esp=1dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1teslaPA -retextured.esp=1WeaponModKits.esp=1WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp=1Realistic Interior Lighting.esp=1Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp=1Realistic Interior Lighting - PL.esp=1HZSmoothLight - FO3.esp=1UPP - Pack 1.esp=1UPP - Pack 2.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp=1Blackened FWE + EVE + Project Beauty.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp=1UndergroundHideout.esp=1F3ProjectRealityMkI.esp=1WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp=1Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp=1WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp=1WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp=1WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp=1WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp=1CASM.esp=1Merged Patch.esp=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M48A5 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 You provided two images that appear to be a load order sorted by LOOT and neither of the images are close to matching what is on the FWE page. I'm out, Kitty, it's all yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABorstov123 Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 You provided two images that appear to be a load order sorted by LOOT and neither of the images are close to matching what is on the FWE page. I'm out, Kitty, it's all yours. Thanks for your help anyway - I appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purr4me Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) Downloading file nowbe a few moments, I'll come back and post what find. Current loaded data and order of said data. [X] Fallout3.esm[X] Anchorage.esm[X] ThePitt.esm[X] BrokenSteel.esm[X] PointLookout.esm[X] Zeta.esm[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm[X] CALIBR.esm[X] Project Beauty.esm[X] EVE.esm[X] Mothership Crew.esm[X] Alton, IL.esm[X] CRAFT.esm[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm[X] Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp[X] Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp[X] AltonAddon.esp[X] GNR Enhanced.esp[X] Conelrad 640-1240.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp[X] Chems and Meds Re-Textures Pack.esp[X] Flora Overhaul.esp[X] dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp[X] teslaPA -retextured.esp[X] WeaponModKits.esp[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp[X] Realistic Interior Lighting.esp[X] Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp[X] Realistic Interior Lighting - PL.esp[X] HZSmoothLight - FO3.esp[X] UPP - Pack 1.esp[X] UPP - Pack 2.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp[X] Blackened FWE + EVE + Project Beauty.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp[X] UndergroundHideout.esp[X] F3ProjectRealityMkI.esp[X] WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp[X] Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp[X] WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp[X] WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp[X] WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp[X] WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp[X] CASM.esp[X] Merged Patch.esp we will start with that data I highlighted, each need to be sorted together and in the correct order.Delete the current merged patch until we clean up the mess. Edited December 23, 2019 by Purr4me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purr4me Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 understand, all weather, and lighting mods, anything that changes world-space environment must be loaded last. here, they are not. I'll add a link here or you can open my Spoiler tag under my name and download the correct versions fomm sort ordering tools required t at least get you closer to correct load orders. (Fallout series: (https://www.nexusmod...e_id=1000018736) Direct Download "Fomm" ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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