My thoughts on Premium - The Site - and some misc thoughts.

[Mixter213]

Firstly I should start with how long I've been here. I'd say almost 2 years now, at first it was on occasion that my friend would show a neat mod for whatever game he is playing on. Last year i made an actual account as we started to use more mods. and now this year, I would say that I would count this year as actually being active.

 

My thoughts and suggestions might be incomplete. but they are my current thoughts nonetheless.

1. per month or otherwise non permanent premium is very 'meh' to me, If you want the benefits of premium its more worth it to get the lifetime, even if you might only use it a few times through the years.

- My suggestion would be to instead of per month, you divide the benefits you get from premium and put it into separate packages or individually, or both. this would allow users to choose what they want.

 

2. Make a system in place that's kinda like the following and download tab, but that you can fully manage (like how you can manage installation load order on mod managers)

- For example, You have a page that allows you to drag or otherwise sort the mods you want / are watching into separate categories, or just personal preference.

 

3. this is my meh suggestion, but please do something about the downloads tab. I don't mind the 5s timer, or going to another page. but both is annoying.

- With this I mean, I don't want to click download, go to another page to click another button, and wait 5s.

- I wouldn't mind if I clicked download and a 5 or even 10 second timer counted down and downloaded your item.

- I wouldn't mind if I clicked download and it sent me to a confirmation page or pop-out.

 

My final thought, but not a suggestion so its not numbered.

- The mentality some have of 'pay for it or deal with it' is in poor taste at best. I understand (and correct me if i misunderstand some) but just bc something is free. doesn't mean all annoyances should happen without complaint just bc you can get rid of it with money.

 

I'd be happy to hear other people's opinion on my thoughts. even the last one.

[Skagens]

I don't have much of an opinion on your first three points. Maybe it could be implemented, might be complicated, might be a reason why they choose not to do it that way, idk.

This comment however:

 

My final thought, but not a suggestion so its not numbered.

- The mentality some have of 'pay for it or deal with it' is in poor taste at best. I understand (and correct me if i misunderstand some) but just bc something is free. doesn't mean all annoyances should happen without complaint just bc you can get rid of it with money.

 

I'd be happy to hear other people's opinion on my thoughts. even the last one.

 

 

I disagree it's in poor taste. Bandwidth is expensive, and they're not being intrusive with their premium ads. The "slow" download speeds have never bothered me. A couple extra seconds/minutes, big deal. I don't believe anyone's time is so precious they can't wait a couple of minutes, sometimes just a few extra seconds, to download a mod. The site is free to use, for everyone. It's free to download a mod, and the mods are available for everyone. Nexus offers a service which they offer for free. Period. No mods or services are locked behind a pay-wall. What you get for paying is some quality-of-life improvements imo, like faster download speed, no ads etc. as well as feeling good about supporting a service that you use.

 

For example: I use discord everyday, and a few months ago I bought nitro. Not because I have the money to spend, I mean I did, but you could make the argument it was better spent elsewhere. But I did it because it feels good to support a service/platform that you use everyday for free. And that should be the main reason for buying premium here: Because you like the services offered.

 

You can have criticisms obviously, but I don't think there are that many here. The mindset "pay for it or deal with it" is one I hold in terms of this topic. The service is free, and the service isn't horrible if you decide not to pay, it'll just take a couple of more minutes.

[Mixter213]

I don't have much of an opinion on your first three points. Maybe it could be implemented, might be complicated, might be a reason why they choose not to do it that way, idk.

This comment however:

 

My final thought, but not a suggestion so its not numbered.

- The mentality some have of 'pay for it or deal with it' is in poor taste at best. I understand (and correct me if i misunderstand some) but just bc something is free. doesn't mean all annoyances should happen without complaint just bc you can get rid of it with money.

 

I'd be happy to hear other people's opinion on my thoughts. even the last one.

 

 

I disagree it's in poor taste. Bandwidth is expensive, and they're not being intrusive with their premium ads. The "slow" download speeds have never bothered me. A couple extra seconds/minutes, big deal. I don't believe anyone's time is so precious they can't wait a couple of minutes, sometimes just a few extra seconds, to download a mod. The site is free to use, for everyone. It's free to download a mod, and the mods are available for everyone. Nexus offers a service which they offer for free. Period. No mods or services are locked behind a pay-wall. What you get for paying is some quality-of-life improvements imo, like faster download speed, no ads etc. as well as feeling good about supporting a service that you use.

 

For example: I use discord everyday, and a few months ago I bought nitro. Not because I have the money to spend, I mean I did, but you could make the argument it was better spent elsewhere. But I did it because it feels good to support a service/platform that you use everyday for free. And that should be the main reason for buying premium here: Because you like the services offered.

 

You can have criticisms obviously, but I don't think there are that many here. The mindset "pay for it or deal with it" is one I hold in terms of this topic. The service is free, and the service isn't horrible if you decide not to pay, it'll just take a couple of more minutes.

I think I steered that phrase into the wrong direction. I meant in terms of the people ive seen through the thread saying people shouldn't complain or criticize nexus for the added annoyance of the 2-3 extra steps to download a single mod.

- Altho there are many ways to improve the act of donating or buying premium. more than I myself can think of. I do not believe pushing annoyances onto the user (even those who are supporter roles) is good.

- I plan to buy lifetime premium if I ever get money that I don't have to spend on other things. - I don't see the actual benefit of buying anything less.

- - But saying this my statement was more of, I don't get why people are in the mind set of , deal with all decisions nexus makes bc its free. or buy out of it.

Edited December 21, 2019 by Mixter213

[Rabbit1251]

Your problem, I think, is that you consider Premium as payment for services rendered. But everything here is free. I considered my Lifetime membership as my contribution to keep the site running and help defray Robin's expenses. When I got Lifetime I was a Supporter and thus had all of the perks already. The perks were not bought. They were Robins thank you to me for my support. My contributions are helping to keep the Nexus going for those people who enjoy this hobby. And in that I am additionally rewarded.

 

 

The Rabbit

[Mixter213]

Your problem, I think, is that you consider Premium as payment for services rendered. But everything here is free. I considered my Lifetime membership as my contribution to keep the site running and help defray Robin's expenses. When I got Lifetime I was a Supporter and thus had all of the perks already. The perks were not bought. They were Robins thank you to me for my support. My contributions are helping to keep the Nexus going for those people who enjoy this hobby. And in that I am additionally rewarded.

 

 

The Rabbit

Could you clarify payment for services rendered. i don't hear that often enough to understand its context.

- as for the rest. I do see it as the main idea of supporting nexus. thats why I suggested no.1 - instead of per month (which imo isn't worth it) divide the perks into packages.

[HadToRegister]

 

 

My thoughts and suggestions might be incomplete. but they are my current thoughts nonetheless.

1. per month or otherwise non permanent premium is very 'meh' to me, If you want the benefits of premium its more worth it to get the lifetime, even if you might only use it a few times through the years.

- My suggestion would be to instead of per month, you divide the benefits you get from premium and put it into separate packages or individually, or both. this would allow users to choose what they want.

 

 

 

 

You mean something like this?

 

Lifetime is clearly the cheapest in the long run, it starts out at 20 cents a day for the first year, drops to 10 cents a day the 2nd year. 6 cents a day the 3rd year and so on.

 

 

[Mixter213]

 

 

 

My thoughts and suggestions might be incomplete. but they are my current thoughts nonetheless.

1. per month or otherwise non permanent premium is very 'meh' to me, If you want the benefits of premium its more worth it to get the lifetime, even if you might only use it a few times through the years.

- My suggestion would be to instead of per month, you divide the benefits you get from premium and put it into separate packages or individually, or both. this would allow users to choose what they want.

 

 

 

 

You mean something like this?

 

Lifetime is clearly the cheapest in the long run, it starts out at 20 cents a day for the first year, drops to 10 cents a day the 2nd year. 6 cents a day the 3rd year and so on.

 

 

 

the problem with that. is the only one worth its money when compared to each other, is the lifetime. thats why i suggested to divide it into perks (with what is now lifetime , being all the perks) and not per month.

[Hellfog]

Your problem, I think, is that you consider Premium as payment for services rendered.

 

 

But the thing is that, at least currently, you can trace back that way of thinking about the premium service directly to recent changes to the download system. No matter how you want to cut it, it's a downgrade for the free user. So the mentality of a new premium buyer might change from "I want to support the Nexus" to "I want to get rid of this problem, so I'll pay for the fix".

 

So for someone who never had premium before, it does become payment for services instead of willingness to support the site. And since the Nexus are the ones who made the changes happen in the first place, it seems they endorse that way of thinking about the user-site relationship. Not saying there's anything wrong with that actually, the nexus staff needs to eat too and servers cost money, but it's understandable why someone would be discontent when you take away a convenience that was free before.

 

I'm sure many people would pay a bit of money just to have the old download system back and nothing else. Splitting the premium perks up into chunks you can buy individually might make this more digestible for unsatisfied users.

Edited December 21, 2019 by Hellfog

[Mixter213]

 

Your problem, I think, is that you consider Premium as payment for services rendered.

 

 

But the thing is that, at least currently, you can trace back that way of thinking about the premium service directly to recent changes to the download system. No matter how you want to cut it, it's a downgrade for the free user. So the mentality of a new premium buyer might change from "I want to support the Nexus" to "I want to get rid of this problem, so I'll pay for the fix".

 

So for someone who never had premium before, it does become payment for services instead of willingness to support the site. And since the Nexus are the ones who made the changes happen in the first place, it seems they endorse that way of thinking about the user-site relationship. Not saying there's anything wrong with that actually, the nexus staff needs to eat too and servers cost money, but it's understandable why someone would be discontent when you take away a convenience that was free before.

 

I'm sure many people would pay a bit of money just to have the old download system back and nothing else. Splitting the premium perks up into chunks you can buy individually might make this more digestible for unsatisfied users.

 

I agree with you to a point. I do believe my 1st 3rd suggestion would be a good solution to their premium issue. but this is all quality of life stuff. I view it as equal to cosmetics (except the data limit). and people will buy things just to support nexus. some will be more towards a consumer pov to where they compare the best quality to the price and see if its worth it.

[Guest deleted34304850]

so you want different tarrifs, and when shown different tarrifs, not those tarrifs some other, unknown tarrifs that would be so much better?

 

such as what?

 

offer up some calculations of your own tarrifs that show better value for money and better distribution of the charges across all the nexus outgoings including mod author payments, stafff and infrastructure overheads and everything else that comes from running a business.

 

otherwise it's just another in a never ending series of posts from entitled users who offer nothing to the site but demand everything.