Same Sex marriges Legilized!

[Zmid]

We were talking about correct term usage. Just like an anthill cannot be called house, union between two same sex people cannot be called marriage (atleast "marriage", how I understand it).

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Anything can be called by any label you care to name. I could start referring to my house as 'a lesser spotted Great Tit' if I so desire. I would break no law doing so. However, as far as it's legal status is concerned, it's a house.

 

The only thing I can figure is that you are trying to make the point that, in a lot of places, the legal definition of a marriage is 'a union between a man and a woman'. If this is the point you are trying to make, you have obviously failed to grasp that the very question we are debating here is 'should it be?'

[sandy]

i strongly disagree with most of you homo marriges are rong if we were all homo

there would be no children thus killing off the human race plus i just cant stand gays

[Peregrine]

So not only are you semi-literate, you're a narrow-minded bigot too. Lets just list all the things wrong with your post.

 

 

1) Most of humanity is completely heterosexual, and has no desire to marry someone of their own gender. Even if it were legal, the number of people who would do it is far far below the level that could be a threat of population decline.

 

2) The people who would want to marry their own gender are the ones who are least likely to get into a heterosexual marriage and start producing kids. So they're already being non-productive, the only issue is whether their marriage gets formal recognition.

 

3) In any case, your population decline argument is incredibly stupid. We're already overpopulated. A cut in the birth rate would be a good thing.

 

4) Since I don't see you arguing against marriage between a man and a woman who have reproductive problems and can not have children, or for couples who simply decide not to have kids, your entire argument is disproved. The reproduction issue is just a cover for your real motivation of mindless hate.

 

 

4) You provide absolutely no argument for why it is wrong, besides "I don't like it." You'll notice this is the debate forum, which means you're expected to back up your statements with proof.

 

5) "Eww, gross" is not a valid argument for denying someone their basic rights. It just shows how narrow-minded you are, and is completely worthless as a debate argument.

 

I could probably keep going, but honestly, you're not worth the effort. You're just a small-minded troll blinded by his hate, as well as other insults I can't post here if I want to stay unbanned. Come back when you can actually post a coherent argument.

[VaanicOne]

Whatever way love might go, we should support it.

[ThetaOrionis01]

sandy's and Peregrine's posts split from this topic.

 

 

Peregrine, you should know the old adage - never argue with a troll, they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

 

sandy - I expect a full apology for your trolling in this thread. Should an apology not be forthcoming, expect a ban to follow shortly. Your behaviour is completely unacceptable.

 

This is the debates forum, not the 'spout irrational prejudice' forum - if you are too immature to participate, then don't post here. :angry2:

[Preacher]

I think the same-sex marriage issue is a tough one - while there really isn't any reason why they shouldn't, there is opposition left, right and centre. My first opinion when I heard of it was quite similar to sandy's "Eew, gross," but then I thought, is that really a good reason? The answer is no. I think the reason why I reacted with the same "hate reflex" as sandy (and I'm sure many others) is because I am a red-blooded, heterosexual male, and as a result I simply can't understand the appeal of two men or two women falling in love, doing what couples do...

 

But ignorance is no excuse for bigotry. Once I started thinking rationally I thought that there really is no harm. Gay people have been cohabiting for a long, long time before this bill was introduced, so what difference does it make is they call it marriage and get a piece of paper to prove their love for each other? I say live and let live! Gay couples and children...well...that's slightly different...but don't want to go off topic so i'll leave that

[loveme4whoiam]

Bravo Preacher; this is exaclty the kind of thinking that should be applauded (although the mere fact that we have to applaud says a fiar bit about our society). Having confronted your initial feelings you came to the conclusion that it was not a problem. You are an example to all Preacher :D

 

I think its a damn good thing. As has been mentioned gay people having been vohabitting for ages now, but the economic reasons for them to get married are very important. When a married man dies (or woman, either or) his or her pension gets turned over to their spouse; merely cohabitting gay couples don't get this. This is on top of other huge things, including tax breaks for married people and the ability to take out a joint mortage on a house.

 

So not only is this a good thing socially its a good thing economically for those gay couples who have been screwed over in the past simply by being the wrong sexuality. Luckily, an Act almost akin to "normal" marriage comes into effect in the UK on 21st December for all you gay guys out there :cool2:

[Stampede]

I do not fall strictly into the Liberal or Conservative categories. Though I think I veer more towards the right.

 

However I think with all the taboos being broken coupled with the increasingly lax stance on old fashioned ethics, the institute of marriage should be encouraged now more than ever.

 

From a religious, specifically Christian standpoint, I can see the conflict. Though many fundamentalists would have you believe that God hates gays, this is in fact so far from the truth, that it's frightening. God hates the sin, but loves the sinner.

 

I think the greatest thing going for same sex marriage will be a rise in adoptions. Someone made such a valid point when they said they would rather have a child growing up feeling loved and encouraged, than having to face the possibility that nobody ever wanted them at all.

 

Well, that's my 2 cents.