Workshop mode drops out when I move to certain areas

[mpanga1]

Hi,

 

I don't know if anyone can help with this but its very annoying! I have Faster Workshop mod installed, so I can quickly bring the workshop back but I have to do that every few seconds as I move around.

 

I can be in workshop mode and do everything without a problem, building, moving items, assigning settlers, etc - until I move, then the workshop closes after a few steps. It always seems to be in the same places... for instance the building next to the Sanctuary workshop is one place. Go past it and there's like an invisible line I can't cross without the workshop closing. It happens on all the settlements, which are really just Sanctuary, Red Rocket and Starlight Drive In (its a newish play through as the same thing was happening on my last one).

 

Any ideas?

[StormWolf01]

Heyas Mpanga. Sorry to hear about this problem. Sounds like it's a royal pain in the tail! :(

I'm also sorry, but I'm afraid that you're going to need to post your mod load order, so that we can get some idea of what we're dealing with. :(

[mpanga1]

Hi Stormwolf. thanks for getting back to me. Is there an easy way of posting my load order or do I have to type them all out? I have quite a few!

Edited December 29, 2019 by mpanga1

[mpanga1]

Guess so... so here it is:

 

Fallout 4.esm

DLCRobot.esm

DLCworkshop01.esm

DLCCoast.esm

DLCworkshop02.esm

DLCworkshop03.esm

DLCNukaWorld.esm

Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp

unlockedsettlementobjects.esm

HUDFramework.esm

CROP.esm

Homemaker.esm

Snap'n Build.esm

ArmorKeywords.esm

jonsmod.esm

Emerald Necklace.esl

Robot Home Defence.esm

Sim Settlements.esm

Eisenwolfs Legacy.esm

EthreonMasterPlan.esm

overgrowth.esp

settleobjexpandpack.esp

hangmanalleyrevamp.esp

liberty_pa.esp

loot detector.esp

visiblecompanionaffinity.esp

solarpower.esp

Snappy_HouseK.esp

Snappy_Scrap.esp

WorkshopRearranged.esp

WorkshopRearranged - Valdacil Patch.esp

ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion.esp

3dnpc_fo4.esp

unlockedsettlementobjectssp.esp

bostonfpsfixautomatron.esp

unlockedsettlementobjects_menuoverride.esp

sanctuaryparts.esp

FunctionalDisplays-Collectibles.esp

FunctionalDisplays.esp

FunctionalDisplays-MISC-VIS.esp

Armorsmith Extended.esp

Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp

SOTS.esp

mojaveimports.esp

Jangles.esp

madrock-999-01.esp

concordworkhouseplayerhome.esp

crowdedcommonwealth.esp

unlockedsettlementobjectsdlc04.esp

unlockedsettlementobjectsdlc03.esp

FarHarborStory.esp

unlockedsettlementobjectsdlc06.esp

unlockedsettlementobjectsdlc02.esp

unlockedsettlementobjectsdlc05.esp

unlockedsettlementobjectsmashups.esp

3dnpc_fo4_dlc.esp

unlockedsettlementobjectsdlc01.esp

automatron protectrons expanded.esp

power armor quick enter and exit.esp

PAMAP.esp

more power armor paint.esp

r97r power armor paints.esp

pc_pa_x01_vimbonespaint.esp

orangehotrod.esp

buildable fallout 76 watchtowers v2.esp

improved map with visible roads.esp

catstuff.esp

moddablerobotsettlers.esp

notwigs.esp

PortableRecycler.esp

SettlementMenuManager.esp

Immersive HUD.esp

AkaInvisibleFurniture.esp

CREAtiveClutter.esp

DD_1x1_Foundation_Blocks.esp

DD_Columnsandstuff_1_0.esp

DDP_Ramps_mark 1.esp

DD_All_the_COncrete.esp

dinoshelf.esp

dinoshelf_extra_ammo.esp

Eli_Display Shelves.esp

Northland Diggers.esp

OCDecorator.esp

OCDecoratorDLC.esp

OCDispenser.esp

FunctionalDisplays-AID-VIS.esp

FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC-ALL-VIS.esp

StainsStructures.esp

Ground_Vanilla.esp

Fishers.esp

LongerHeadlampLightWithShadows.esp

Vault-Tec Workshop Overhaul.esp

BetterJunkFences.esp

DD_Floor_brace.esp

SettlementGarageSale.esp

AutoDoors.esp

settleobjexpandpack-autodoorspatch.esp

AD_DLC.esp

Vault-Tec Food Solutions.esp

CatDecoFloors.esp

CombinedExpansion4.1.esp

northernspringslodpatch.esp

Thematic and Practical.esp

VltElevatorDLC.esp

Pictures Of Remembrance.esp

GruffyddsSignsAndPosters.esp

RestorePAFrames.esp

NanotechWaterpump_FoodWaterHappy.esp

SummonCompanions.esp

AWKCR - Mod Power Armor Engine Glitch Fix.esp

CBBE.esp

ImmersiveVendors.esp

BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp

companion infinite ammo.esp

salvagebot.esp

cat_wildlands.esp

new_comics.esp

ZebrinasWorkshopDevices.esp

ruined_simsettlement_addonpack.esp

DWUK_LexingtonInteriors.esp

VaultTecStory.esp

llamaCompanionHeather.esp

BostonAirport_WorkshopFix.esp

arradio.esp

faroutradio.esp

atomicradio.esp

settlementtidybot.esp

SalvageBeacons.esp

DD_Elevators_TT.esp

PCDugWedges.esp

SymbioticSettlements.esp

BoxHouses.esp

Sandbag Fortifications - Version 2C.esp

SSEX.esp

PCDugSIMAddon.esp

llamaCompanionHeather-VIS - AE Patch.esp

Journal.esp

BetterSettlers.esp

BetterSettlersCleanFacePack.esp

trainbar.esp

crimetown.esp

soepack_vanillamenufixer.esp

Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp

bettersettlements.esp

amazingfollowertweaks.esp

[mpanga1]

I think the problem has cured itself! Well maybe I helped a bit by moving some of the mods, as I noticed that some could be put together for neatness and to group similar mods (I kept a note of which ones I moved just in case I might later have to move them back). Anyway I've just been playing the game and had no problems with the workshop mode.

[StormWolf01]

Heyas Mpanga! REALLY sorry for not getting back to you sooner. Especially since you did go to all the trouble of typing out your load order.

There's a shortcut that you can use for that.

There's a file called plugins.txt buried in your computer's files - C:\Users\yourusername\AppData\Local\Fallout4\ (yourusername being whatever name you use to log into your computer). It's just a text file, so that you can open it with notepad, whatever word processor that you use, etc. You can then just hold CTRL key, and tap the A key, to select the entire list. Then CTRL and the C key, to copy the entire list to your clipboard, so that you can paste it into whatever you need to.

I know that doesn't help you now, that you've already typed it out, but it might help for future use.

 

 

Also... yeah. This game is VERY load order picky. When I first started playing, I was sorting my mods by what I thought was neatness too. But some of them have to be listed before others, or after others, so as not to have incompatibilities. :eyeroll:

 

But I'm glad to hear that you got it working. And thanks for posting how you fixed it. That'll be helpful to anybody else who may have the same problem. *Kudos*

[mpanga1]

  On 1/2/2020 at 4:49 PM, StormWolf01 said:

Heyas Mpanga! REALLY sorry for not getting back to you sooner. Especially since you did go to all the trouble of typing out your load order.

There's a shortcut that you can use for that.

There's a file called plugins.txt buried in your computer's files - C:\Users\yourusername\AppData\Local\Fallout4\ (yourusername being whatever name you use to log into your computer). It's just a text file, so that you can open it with notepad, whatever word processor that you use, etc. You can then just hold CTRL key, and tap the A key, to select the entire list. Then CTRL and the C key, to copy the entire list to your clipboard, so that you can paste it into whatever you need to.

I know that doesn't help you now, that you've already typed it out, but it might help for future use.

 

 

Also... yeah. This game is VERY load order picky. When I first started playing, I was sorting my mods by what I thought was neatness too. But some of them have to be listed before others, or after others, so as not to have incompatibilities. :eyeroll:

 

But I'm glad to hear that you got it working. And thanks for posting how you fixed it. That'll be helpful to anybody else who may have the same problem. *Kudos*

Thanks very much for the info mate - I'll keep a note and I ever need to post my load order anywhere else I'll know exactly how to do it!

 

Yes, hopefully this might help somebody else. It was strange though because I had been playing this runthrough for a while without a problem - until they 'updated' the game (am I the only one who can never see any difference when they update?). I'm actually playing the game on my games machine but I'll get the revised load order and paste it here later. I didn't change much.

 

Thanks again! :)

[JimmyRJump]

Getting kicked out of the Workshop when walking around is caused when a settlement mod is spread over different cells and you cross from one cell into the next. It happened in vanilla too at Abernathy's. It can also happen when you've moved the Workshop out of it's original cell. But then the settlement would turn up as 'Commonwealth' in the pipboy list of unlocked settlements and the original name is gone.

[StormWolf01]

Mpanga- I actually keep a shortcut to that file in a folder that I have on my desktop for all the icons for various stuff related to fallout 4. Makes it a lot easier to find ;)

There's been some issues with some mods not working since the latest 2 updates Version 162 and version 163.

Bethesda changed the way that the game reads mod headers, expanding the amount of ESL containers to (it's either 300 or 500 my brain is a lil slow right now). Which for the most part, doesn't do any of us any good that don't use ESL mods. Or don't use enough of them to be affected by the ESL limit.

 

If you've got some mods that aren't working, because of the update, you can manually update the header information in the mod, to try to get it to work in the new versions of the game.

 

 

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But it will mean that you will have to download and install Xedit. https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/2737/ or open the mods in the CK.

I don't use the CK, so I can only tell you how to do it in Xedit.

Before doing this, make backup copies of the esp/esm/esl files that you are going to edit, just in case!!

After installing Xedit (also I apologize, I almost always typo this as "exit". So I'll apologize in advance if I do, and miss it!)

it will bring up a list of ALL your installed mods. Press the CTRL key and tap the A key on your keyboard to highlight the entire list. Uncheck ONE mod in the list, and since they are all highlighted it will uncheck all of them. Now, single click one of the mods in the list, to undo the highlight all. Now, put check marks next to the mods that we need to update. Then click Okay, or Load (can't remember what the button says, atm.)

That will take a minute or two.

Once it loads all the files for the mods, you will see them listed in the left hand panel. They will have a + sign beside their name. Click on the + to expand the list for that mod. You will then see a file that says HEADER. Click on that, and it will open in the right hand side panel.

You're going to want to look for the version number. If the mod hasn't been updated, it will most likely read something close to

0.950000

You will want to right click that version number, choose edit, and type in

1.000000

I recommend using copy and paste. Especially since you will be doing this at least 3 times).

Also, a big popup is going to spring up, asking if you're sure that you want to make changes to the file. Don't freak out, that's just Xedit doing a double check, it's perfectly normal.

Once you have that mod edited, you will have to do the same thing with the next mod. Rinse and repeat until all three have been updated.

When you're finished updating the headers, press and hold your CTRL key, and tap the S key. That will have xedit save the changes to the files.

 

Jimmy - good to know! thanks for sharing that! :)

[JimmyRJump]

Technically, esl limit is 2048. In reality you're limited by the free number of formID addresses and keywords. Don't remember exactly how it works; it's been a while since I looked into it.