loading when on the overworld map

Solgath · January 15, 2020

ok so, i recently started playing Fallout 4 again and went and grabbed all the normal mods that i do, and have got it to a point, where it is super stable, and very rarely crashes or freezes, anyway, even when first starting out, i start heading in a direction and i'll start getting literal load lag, like the game will stop, and my UI will disappear and the loading icon will appear in the bottom right corner and i have no clue what the problem is, with the mods i've installed i've restarted fresh with new save games and it still does it, and i can't seem to find anything about it when i do a search online... anyway to save time here are my specs.

i also have it running from a dedicated SSD, and all my textures are the standard 2k ones, never saw the point in going higher on a 1080p monitor.

PC specs below

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mods i'm running

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*Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
*GCM_DLC_Automatron.esl
*GCM_DLC_Far_Harbor.esl
*HUDFramework.esm
*GoldTusk.esl
*VendorCaps.esl
*FAR.esl
*Loot Detector.esl
*Homemaker.esm
*ArmorKeywords.esm
*SimSettlements.esm
*WorkshopFramework.esm
DLCUltraHighResolution.esm
*OVT.esp
*NoSharedDogmeatTemplate.esp
*CBBE.esp
*GCM.esp
*Insignificant Object Remover.esp
*LegendaryModification.esp
*LegendaryModification2LM.esp
*LegendaryModification2LMAKPatch.esp
*LegendaryModificationMisc.esp
*LegendaryModificationCSA.esp
*LegendaryModificationGroknak.esp
*SurvivalSaving_Holotapes.esp
*SleepOrSave.esp
*REAPER.esp
*AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
*Perk Magazine Material Fix.esp
*ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion.esp
*Armorsmith Extended.esp
*Unique NPCs - Creatures and Monsters.esp
*PiperCaitCurieDialogueOverhaul.esp
*BTInteriors_Project.esp
*OutcastsAndRemnants.esp
*InteriorsEnhanced-All-In-One.esp
*DeadlierDeathclaws.esp
*The Collector's Guides AIO.esp
*America Rising - A Tale of the Enclave.esp
*Be Exceptional - Uninstall.esp
*Be Exceptional.esp
*Campsite.esp
*Clean Water - Tropical.esp
*KSHairdos.esp
*DX Courser X-92 Power Suit.esp
*Craftable Armor Size - Fix Material Requirements.esp
*Craftable Armor Size.esp
*Vivid Weathers - FO4.esp
*Deeper Thoughts - Expressive Curie.esp
*def_inv_scrap_en.esp
*Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp
*EPRP.esp
*EnclaveX02.esp
*dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp
*SurvivalOptions.esp
*Factor.esp
*AA FusionCityRising.esp
*NEST_BUNKER_PROJECT.esp
*SpectacleIsleBridges.esp
*Fog Remover II (AIO) Recommended.esp
*MikeMooresMCAM.esp
*BetterCompanions.esp
*AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
*W.A.T.Minutemen.esp
*officersRevolver.esp
*Institute Safe House.esp
*Interiors Enhanced and Fog Remover Synergy Patch.esp
*Glock86.esp
*ProjectValkyrie.esp
*WIPAG_Power Armor Overhaul.esp
*City of Quincy.esp
*MakeYourOwnSynths.esp
*Midwest Power Armor Evolution.esp
*Vaker.esp
*FO4 NPCs Travel.esp
*AsukaClothOfficer.esp
*SolsSixThousandCaps.esp
*AQUILA.esp
*Arbitration - Recommended Core.esp
*IMG_Castle_Wall_Patches.esp
*Hellfirenew.esp
*LooksMenu.esp
*LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
*TheyWantThatAss.esp
*NoAffinityCooldown.esp
*VintageAlienBlaster.esp
*More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp
*More Where That Came From - Classic.esp
*Elvani's Track Pack - FIX.esp
*The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
*Vivid Fallout - All in One - Best Choice.esp
*Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Far Harbor.esp
*Vivid Weathers - Nuka World.esp
*YouAreSPECIAL.esp
*BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp
*Crafting Mastery.esp
*NanoArmor.esp
*NanoArmor_AWKCR_AE.esp
*NanoSuit.esp
*NanoSuit_AWKCR_AE.esp
*Journey.esp
*WIPAG_Contraptions_DLC_Addon.esp
*WIPAG_FarHarbor_DLC_Addon.esp
*WIPAG_NukaWorld_DLC_Addon.esp
*ValiusHDTextures2K.esp
*DarkerNights.esp
*DarkerNightsDetection.esp
*WIPAG_X02_Enclave_Addon.esp
*WIPAG_MidwestEvo_Addon.esp
*WIPAG_X03_Hellfire_Addon.esp
*ISH Contraptions Add On.esp
*XIVSword.esp
*ISHSynthProduction.esp
*OWR_OWT.esp
*MiscHairstyle.esp
*Wasteland Heroines Replacer All in One_1.0.0.esp
*MCMWeatherControl.esp
*Lots More Female Hairstyles.esp
*Beautiful Female Enemies.esp
*BasementLiving.esp
*WIPAG_Paint_Garage_Style_1_Master.esp
*WIPAG_Paint_Garage_Style_1_Matte.esp
*WIPAG_Paint_Garage_Style_1_Waxed.esp
*WIPAG_Paint_Garage_Style_2_Master.esp
*WIPAG_Paint_Garage_Style_2_Matte.esp
*WIPAG_Paint_Garage_Style_2_Waxed.esp
*WIPAG_Paint_Garage_Style_3_Master.esp
*WIPAG_Paint_Garage_Style_3_Matte.esp
*WIPAG_Paint_Garage_Style_3_Waxed.esp
*WIPAG_Paint_Garage_Style_4_Master.esp
*WIPAG_Paint_Garage_Style_4_Matte.esp
*WIPAG_Paint_Garage_Style_4_Waxed.esp
*WIPAG_Paint_Garage_Style_5_Master.esp
*WIPAG_Paint_Garage_Style_5_Matte.esp
*WIPAG_Paint_Garage_Style_5_Waxed.esp
*WIPAG_Paint_Garage_Style_6_Master.esp
*WIPAG_Paint_Garage_Style_6_Matte.esp
*WIPAG_Paint_Garage_Style_6_Waxed.esp
*Worsin_Ultimate_NV.esp
*WUNV_Courser-X-92_Patch.esp
*SettlementMenuManager.esp
*SSAOP_SamutzVault88.esp
*Goggles on Forehead.esp
*wasterArmor.esp
*SP Personal Teleport.esp
*SKKFastBOS.esp
*mso_sms.esp
*Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp
*fathercompanion.esp
*LegendaryModification - DLC Far Harbor.esp
*LegendaryModification - DLC Far Harbor (2LM).esp
*rfortaleza2.esp
*rfortaleza2_AE.esp
*Fortaleza Armor-AE-2LM.esp
*BTInteriors_Project_Sorting.esp
*Dogmeat A True Companion Survival.esp
*DeadlierDeathclaws_Insanity.esp
*Unique NPCs - Creatures and Monsters - AE & VIS-G Patch.esp
*infinite_settlement_budget.esp
*BetterSettlers.esp
*BetterSettlersCleanFacePack.esp
*BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.esp
*BetterSettlersMostlyFemale.esp
*PIP-Pad.esp
*PIP-Pad_LMCC.esp
*Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp
*PIP-Pad_Pip-BoyFlashlight.esp
*X-02 PipboyLight Patch.esp
*CROSS_Blades.esp
*LooksMirror.esp
*Phase4DLC.esp
*Depravity.esp
*D.E.C.A.Y.esp
*TeleportThuggyverseCompanions.esp
*AtlasSummit.esp
*Flicker Fixer.esp
*FQ_NoMoreLODFlicker_AIO.esp
*BostonFPSFixAIO.esp
*BTInt_Optimization.esp
*ImmersiveScrapping_SeasonPass.esp
*ImmersiveScrapping_ScrapPowerArmor.esp
*Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp
*SpringCleaningCompatibilityPatch.esp
*StartMeUp.esp

cheers to anyone who can help, the game is playable, just that one little issue is cooking my brain...

Zzyxzz · January 15, 2020

You may want to drop Better Settlers, It's known for causing issues.

HeyYou · January 15, 2020

Ive seen that too. I tried a fix for the flickering textures, something having to do with pre-vis, or some such...... and it caused exactly that problem. I would get the loading feller at EVERY cell border...... Changed that back right quick, and loaded a save from before I changed it. Can't recall exactly what is was that I changed though......

Solgath · January 15, 2020

the fixes i have in my mod list came after the fact, i would get to specific areas and would have those flickering issues, so i grabbed those patches, but the loading problem pretty much started out of the gate...

HeyYou · January 16, 2020

I think it is just one setting in your fallout4.ini...... I know I changed it, whatever it was, for the texture flicker, but, the fix was far worse than the problem... so I changed it back. I wish I could remember what it was.....

Solgath · January 16, 2020

i never changed anything in my fallout4.ini, so i wouldn't know, anything that might have been changed would have been with mods, only other tool i used is the customization tool, and i only ran a few changes there...

here is my fallout4.ini settings if it will help.

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[General]
sLanguage=en
uGridsToLoad=5
uExterior Cell Buffer=47
bDisableAllGore=0
bAllowConsole=1
bPlayMainmenuMusic=1
bForceUpdateDiffuseOnly=0
iTextureDegradeDistance0=2700
iTextureDegradeDistance1=6000
iTextureUpgradeDistance0=400
iTextureUpgradeDistance1=2400
iNumHWThreads=6

[screenSplatter]
bBloodSplatterEnabled=1

[Display]
iPresentInterval=0
bDeferredCommands=0
fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000.0
fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=2000.0
fLightLODMaxStartFade=3500.0
bAllowScreenshot=1
fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=3500.0000
fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=2000.0000
fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000
bNvGodraysEnable=0
bDynamicObjectQueryManager=1
bMultiThreadedAccumulation=0
bMultiThreadedRenderingUNP=0

fSAORadius=108.2
fSAOBias=0.6
fSAOIntensity=7.1

fSunShadowUpdateTime=1.0
fSunUpdateThreshold=0.5000
fDefaultWorldFOV=70
fDefault1stPersonFOV=80
fDecalLifetime=30.0000
fDecalLOD0=800.0000
fPipboyScreenEmitIntensity=1.2500
fPipboyScreenDiffuseIntensity=0.150
fPipboyScreenEmitIntensityPA=3.000
fPipboyScreenDiffuseIntensityPA=1.0000

[HairLighting]
fHairPrimSpecScale=0.02
fHairPrimSpecPow=125.0
fHairPrimSpecShift=0.36
fHairSecSpecScale=1.2
fHairSecSpecPow=160.0
fHairSecSpecShift=-0.40

[sSSSS]
fSSSSSPower = 4.0

[Audio]
bEnableAudio=1

[interface]
fDefaultWorldFOV=70
fDefault1stPersonFOV=80
fSafeZoneX=64.0
fSafeZoneY=36
fSafeZoneXWide=64.0
fSafeZoneYWide=36
fSafeZoneXWide16x10=64.0
fSafeZoneYWide16x10=36
fCrosshairAlphaPercent=100

[MapMenu]
uLockedObjectMapLOD=16
uLockedTerrainLOD=32

[Controls]
fMouseHeadingXScale=.021
fMouseHeadingYScale=.021
bInvertYValues=0
fEnterWorkshopDelay=1.5000
fPipboyLightDelay=0.3000
fZKeyDelay=0.2000
fThrowDelay=0.3000
fPowerArmorExitDelay=0.4000

[Grass]
iMinGrassSize=20
bAllowCreateGrass=1

[imageSpace]
bDoRadialBlur=1

[Weather]
bPrecipitation=1

[Archive]
sResourceIndexFileList=Fallout4 - Textures1.ba2, Fallout4 - Textures2.ba2, Fallout4 - Textures3.ba2, Fallout4 - Textures4.ba2, Fallout4 - Textures5.ba2, Fallout4 - Textures6.ba2, Fallout4 - Textures7.ba2, Fallout4 - Textures8.ba2, Fallout4 - Textures9.ba2
sResourceStartUpArchiveList=Fallout4 - Startup.ba2, Fallout4 - Shaders.ba2, Fallout4 - Interface.ba2
SResourceArchiveList=Fallout4 - Voices.ba2, Fallout4 - Meshes.ba2, Fallout4 - MeshesExtra.ba2, Fallout4 - Misc.ba2, Fallout4 - Sounds.ba2, Fallout4 - Materials.ba2
SResourceArchiveList2=Fallout4 - Animations.ba2
sResourceDataDirsFinal=
SGeometryPackageList=Fallout4 - Geometry.csg
SCellResourceIndexFileList=Fallout4.cdx
SResourceArchiveMemoryCacheList= Fallout4 - Misc.ba2, Fallout4 - Shaders.ba2, Fallout4 - Interface.ba2, Fallout4 - Materials.ba2
bInvalidateOlderFiles=1

[Papyrus]
fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0
bEnableLogging=0
bEnableTrace=0
bLoadDebugInformation=0

[LOD]
fLODFadeOutMultObjects=4.5000
fLODFadeOutMultItems=2.5000

[Pathfinding]
fWarpMaxTime=4
iWarpMaxPathFailureCount=3
[Water]
bReflectLODObjects=0
bReflectLODLand=0
bReflectSky=0
bReflectLODTrees=0
[Camera]
f3rdPersonAimFOV=70
[Decals]
uMaxSkinDecals=100
uMaxSkinDecalPerActor=25
bDecals=1
bSkinnedDecals=1
[Combat]
bForceNPCsUseAmmo=0
[Gameplay]
bHealthBarShowing=0
[VATS]
fVATSRangedLongDistance=2500
[Workshop]
bWorkshopEnableGridBasedSnapping=0

HeyYou · January 16, 2020

Post your prefs.ini, and custom.ini as well please. :D

Solgath · January 16, 2020

here are the prefs.ini and custom.ini

prefs.ini

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[Display]
flocalShadowMapHalveEveryXUnit=750.0000
focusShadowMapDoubleEveryXUnit=450.0000
fShadowBiasScale=1.0000
fDirShadowDistance=3000.0000
fShadowDistance=3000.0000
uiOrthoShadowFilter=3
uiShadowFilter=3
iShadowMapResolution=4096
uPipboyTargetHeight=700
uPipboyTargetWidth=876
iVolumetricLightingQuality=-1
bVolumetricLightingEnable=1
bSAOEnable=1
iDirShadowSplits=2
bVolumetricLightingForceCasters=0
iTiledLightingMinLights=40
bComputeShaderDeferredTiledLighting=1
iMaxFocusShadowsDialogue=4
iMaxFocusShadows=4
bForceIgnoreSmoothness=0
fBlendSplitDirShadow=48.0000
bSinglePassDirShadow=1
bEnableWetnessMaterials=1
fTessFactorMaxDistanceScale=100.0000
sAntiAliasing=TAA
fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd=4600.0000
fLeafAnimDampenDistStart=3600.0000
fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000
fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault=256.0000
fMeshLODFadeScalar=1.0000
fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=2048.0000
fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=2844.0000
fInteriorMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=1950.0000
fInteriorMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=2600.0000
fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=999999.0000
fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=999999.0000
iMaxAnisotropy=16
iPresentInterval=0
bTopMostWindow=0
bMaximizeWindow=0
bBorderless=1
bFull Screen=0
iSize H=1080
iSize W=1920
bAllowShadowcasterNPCLights=1
iScreenShotIndex=0
fMaxFocusShadowMapDistance=450.0000
bPrecipitationOcclusion=1
iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=25
iMaxDecalsPerFrame=100
sD3DDevice="NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070"
iTexMipMapSkip=-1
bEnableRainOcclusion=1
iAdapter=0
[imagespace]
bDoDepthOfField=1
bScreenSpaceBokeh=0
bMBEnable=0
bLensFlare=1
[Pipboy]
fPipboyEffectColorB=1.0000
fPipboyEffectColorG=1.0000
fPipboyEffectColorR=1.0000
[VATS]
fModMenuEffectHighlightPAColorB=0.4100
fModMenuEffectHighlightPAColorG=0.8200
fModMenuEffectHighlightPAColorR=1.0000
fModMenuEffectPAColorB=0.4100
fModMenuEffectPAColorG=0.8200
fModMenuEffectPAColorR=1.0000
fModMenuEffectHighlightColorB=0.5000
fModMenuEffectHighlightColorG=0.5500
fModMenuEffectHighlightColorR=0.0050
fModMenuEffectColorB=0.5000
fModMenuEffectColorG=0.5500
fModMenuEffectColorR=0.0050
[MAIN]
fSkyCellRefFadeDistance=150000.0000
bCrosshairEnabled=1
fHUDOpacity=1.000
bSaveOnPause=1
bSaveOnTravel=1
bSaveOnWait=1
bSaveOnRest=1
[LightingShader]
bScreenSpaceSubsurfaceScattering=1
bScreenSpaceReflections=1
[General]
bGamepadEnable=0
bPipboyCompanionEnabled=0
iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1
bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0
uGridsToLoad=5
bPlayMainmenuMusic=1
iNumHWThreads=6
uExterior Cell Buffer=47
[interface]
bDialogueSubtitles=1
bGeneralSubtitles=1
iHUDColorB=127
iHUDColorG=140
iHUDColorR=1
bDialogueCameraEnable=1
bShowCompass=1
uHUDActiveEffectWidget=2
[Controls]
fMouseHeadingSensitivity=0.0300
fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=0.6667
bAlwaysRunByDefault=1
bInvertYValues=0
bGamePadRumble=1
[GamePlay]
iDifficulty=6
bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=1
bShowQuestMarkers=1
[Particles]
iMaxDesired=750
[saveGame]
fAutosaveEveryXMins=10.0000
[AudioMenu]
fAudioMasterVolume=1
fVal7=1.0000
uID7=0
fVal6=1.0000
uID6=0
fVal5=1.0000
uID5=0
fVal4=1
uID4=138006
fVal3=1
uID3=1007612
fVal2=0.5137
uID2=94881
fVal1=0
uID1=466532
fVal0=1
uID0=554685
[Water]
bUseWaterDisplacements=1
bUseWaterRefractions=1
bUseWaterReflections=1
bUseWaterDepth=1
[TerrainManager]
fTreeLoadDistance=75000.0000
fBlockMaximumDistance=250000.0000
fBlockLevel2Distance=110000.0000
fBlockLevel1Distance=90000.0000
fBlockLevel0Distance=60000.0000
fSplitDistanceMult=1.5000
bShowLODInEditor=0
[Grass]
fGrassStartFadeDistance=7000
fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=7000.0000
fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=400.0000
[Decals]
uMaxDecals=250
bDecals=1
bSkinnedDecals=1
uMaxSkinDecals=50
uMaxSkinDecalsPerActor=40
[LOD]
fLODFadeOutMultSkyCell=1.0000
fLODFadeOutMultObjects=30
fLODFadeOutMultItems=10
fLODFadeOutMultActors=15
[NVHBAO]
bEnable=1
fBackgroundAOViewDepth=750.0000
bBackgroundAOEnable=1
fDepthThresholdSharpness=100.0000
fDepthThresholdMaxViewDepth=500.0000
bDepthThresholdEnable=0
iDepthClampModeEnum=0
fCoarseAO=1.0000
fDetailAO=0.6500
fBlurSharpnessProfileBackgroundViewDepth=1.0000
fBlurSharpnessProfileForegroundViewDepth=0.0000
fBlurSharpnessProfileForegroundSharpnessScale=4.0000
bBlurSharpnessProfileEnable=0
fBlurSharpness=16.0000
iBlurRadiusEnum=1
bBlurEnable=1
fPowerExponent=2.5000
fBias=0.1000
fRadius=0.6500
[NVFlex]
bNVFlexEnable=0
iQuality=0
iMaxNeighbors2=64
iMaxNeighbors1=48
iMaxNeighbors0=32
iMaxParticles2=32768
iMaxParticles1=16000
iMaxParticles0=6000
fKillRadius2=4000.0000
fKillRadius1=3000.0000
fKillRadius0=2000.0000
bNVFlexInstanceDebris=1
bNVFlexDrawDebris=1
[blurShaderHDR]
bDoHighDynamicRange=0
[blurShader]
bUseBlurShader=0
[Launcher]
uLastAspectRatio=1
bEnableFileSelection=1
[bethesda.net]
uPersistentUuidData3=333276182
uPersistentUuidData2=2340307041
uPersistentUuidData1=1726564890
uPersistentUuidData0=934775160

custom.ini

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HeyYou · January 17, 2020

Well, this caught my eye:

OS Install Date: Jan 01 1970

Really now? Have you been time traveling again? Now you know the time lords told you to stop doing that....... :)

I am not seeing anything in there that should cause the problem. I wish I could find the thread that I found the 'fix' in, but, no such luck. I will keep trying.

Solgath · January 17, 2020

lol dang you caught me :P

yeah, it's a total pain, i've look all over and can't find anything myself... ah well, thanks for taking a look, figures crossed someone who may have had this problem as well and managed to fix it will see my post.

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