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I have no idea what causes this, I tried disabling mods and stuff (of course there are a few good ones I cannot disable or I might as well just not play the game. And of course the DLCs). What happens is I cannot load the game because it gets stuck after loading about 1.1GB into memory.

The strange thing is that there is a solution and it always works. You just need to start a new game, and then quit to main menu, and then it will load. So stupid and time consuming.

 

In my case, this was being caused by a mod. It was an outdated hunter's lodge mod, it added a building somewhere out in the world, but for some reason it was affecting certain load screens. Like the one exiting from Bleakfalls Barrow, the entrance to Helgen keep during the introduction, etc. It was totally unrelated, but that eventually fixed it. I've played about 20 hours since I removed this mod and have not encountered a single infinite load screen.

 

I've also heard that certain .ini tweaks doubled with Open Cities can cause very long loading times.

 

For some other CTD's I advise turning of Steam's cloud saves Skyrim -> Properties (in steam). This was causing CTDs for me. Also, if you don't actively make use of it for screenshots or chatting, you could also disable the steam overlay. That was causing me some issues, although no crashes. (Occasionally I would press Shift instead of shift+tab and the overlay would pop up.) I know its unrelated to your issues, but sometimes, problems manifest differently from one PC to the next. If its causing me some issues, it could be very well be one of many culprits in your ongoing woes.

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- Endless loading

I have no idea what causes this, I tried disabling mods and stuff (of course there are a few good ones I cannot disable or I might as well just not play the game. And of course the DLCs). What happens is I cannot load the game because it gets stuck after loading about 1.1GB into memory.

The strange thing is that there is a solution and it always works. You just need to start a new game, and then quit to main menu, and then it will load. So stupid and time consuming.

 

In my case, this was being caused by a mod. It was an outdated hunter's lodge mod, it added a building somewhere out in the world, but for some reason it was affecting certain load screens. Like the one exiting from Bleakfalls Barrow, the entrance to Helgen keep during the introduction, etc. It was totally unrelated, but that eventually fixed it. I've played about 20 hours since I removed this mod and have not encountered a single infinite load screen.

 

I've also heard that certain .ini tweaks doubled with Open Cities can cause very long loading times.

 

For some other CTD's I advise turning of Steam's cloud saves Skyrim -> Properties (in steam). This was causing CTDs for me. Also, if you don't actively make use of it for screenshots or chatting, you could also disable the steam overlay. That was causing me some issues, although no crashes. (Occasionally I would press Shift instead of shift+tab and the overlay would pop up.) I know its unrelated to your issues, but sometimes, problems manifest differently from one PC to the next. If its causing me some issues, it could be very well be one of many culprits in your ongoing woes.

 

Mine does not happen in game, Mine is only when you load a saved game. It will not load because it gets stuck in some final stage. And if you have it in full screen it won't freeze it just loads forever, but if you have it in windowed mode it will freeze up. There is no way to load the save once this happens, you can try as many times as you want wait as long as you want it will never load.

What's more frustrating is there is no clear pattern. Sometimes you save a game, quit, load it and it loads. But then if you quit without saving, start the game again, without changing anything what so ever. Now it won't load that save! but nothing has changed! it just won't load!

the only solution is start new game, and then quit to main menu, and then load whatever save, and it will work 100% of the time.

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Lots of discussion here about load orders and updates, not hearing much about OS maintainance.

 

I'm playing, quite sucsessfully on a rather elderly twin core machine with XP Pro. The machine has a max of 2 gig of ram! And aside from buying a new motherboard there is nothing I can do about it. . . except optimise my OS which I keep spotless. It is almost never connected to the internet, the C drive is de-fragged as often as soon as nessisary, the registry is regulally inspected and cleaned and non essential processes monitored and are shut down to play.

 

I still get occasional freezes usually leaving the cell where I've been in a major battle and thats because the memory and/or page file has just maxed out and locked up. I have a friend with a much more modern machine than mine who uses an identical version of the OS, he has 3 times my ram and much more powerful G-Card and he is constantly struggling to keep the game running.

"Have you de-fragged your drive recently, check the condition of your regisrty?"

"Oh yea, I should get round to that"

Du-uh. . .

 

It begins with your hardware sure, but the game (and game engine) are opperating in a sorftware environment and if that environment is a mess then complex operations -like the smooth running of a game engine will suffer.

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for the Op,

 

with the kind of rig you're running, you can not have all the problems you've described O-o, i mean, i believe you but, see, my rig is a low end computer, and after a big crash i've start a new game with those mods;

i5 3.3 ghz

/radéon HD 6570 1 go vram

/6 go ram

/w7 64 /

WD HDD 1 TO

and i run Skyrim with:

Claralux, road and cities lights

Realistic lightning 3.5

sky..HD 2K textures

W.a.t.e.r

Vurtz flora over..

Glorious grass: grass multiplier

Whiterun trees : as it say , more trees in the town

HQ 3D map

2 customs player house, Heartwood cottage and grey ledge manor, they don't have load doors, the cottage drop my fps by 5 only

+ 1 custom race, apachii, unp body, better females + HD text+ HR for nord , better male + addon, pretty lips,conveniant horse, wearable lantern, headtracking, and so on

 

i have 20 fps outside of Whiterun and 40 inside, 55 to 60 in dungeons, an average of 30 in all tamriel, i know it can be better, but with my rig it's pretty good, i've just tweaked the shadows a bit

 

i never ever had a CTD/freez, loading screen are about 3 scd for a shop and 10 for a town everywere or in dungeons and i'm sure it's because :

 

i uninstall old mods before updating them, install all manually, use boss to have the best load order

 

sorry for the wall and have a good game^^

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- Endless loading

I have no idea what causes this, I tried disabling mods and stuff (of course there are a few good ones I cannot disable or I might as well just not play the game. And of course the DLCs). What happens is I cannot load the game because it gets stuck after loading about 1.1GB into memory.

The strange thing is that there is a solution and it always works. You just need to start a new game, and then quit to main menu, and then it will load. So stupid and time consuming.

 

In my case, this was being caused by a mod. It was an outdated hunter's lodge mod, it added a building somewhere out in the world, but for some reason it was affecting certain load screens. Like the one exiting from Bleakfalls Barrow, the entrance to Helgen keep during the introduction, etc. It was totally unrelated, but that eventually fixed it. I've played about 20 hours since I removed this mod and have not encountered a single infinite load screen.

 

I've also heard that certain .ini tweaks doubled with Open Cities can cause very long loading times.

 

For some other CTD's I advise turning of Steam's cloud saves Skyrim -> Properties (in steam). This was causing CTDs for me. Also, if you don't actively make use of it for screenshots or chatting, you could also disable the steam overlay. That was causing me some issues, although no crashes. (Occasionally I would press Shift instead of shift+tab and the overlay would pop up.) I know its unrelated to your issues, but sometimes, problems manifest differently from one PC to the next. If its causing me some issues, it could be very well be one of many culprits in your ongoing woes.

 

Mine does not happen in game, Mine is only when you load a saved game. It will not load because it gets stuck in some final stage. And if you have it in full screen it won't freeze it just loads forever, but if you have it in windowed mode it will freeze up. There is no way to load the save once this happens, you can try as many times as you want wait as long as you want it will never load.

What's more frustrating is there is no clear pattern. Sometimes you save a game, quit, load it and it loads. But then if you quit without saving, start the game again, without changing anything what so ever. Now it won't load that save! but nothing has changed! it just won't load!

the only solution is start new game, and then quit to main menu, and then load whatever save, and it will work 100% of the time.

You can load that save after loading a save that works(one that is in an interior usually) .

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I was having it pretty good until recently, just a minor quest bug or two mostly solved by searching in google and using the console. That was until recently, I created my stream account, got the updates and Dawnguard (and a few mods) and its been misery ever since. Now I spend more time resolving problems than playing the game and I'm running out of patience. :wallbash: Great game but leaves a lot to be desired. Cheers to the lucky ones who can play without problems. :thumbsup:
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Here is a link to my troubleshooting blog.

http://s1.zetaboards.com/bbenlibrary/topic/4751769/1/#new

This is updated from time to time so come back later for more.

 

If you use any of this and have some success - or even if nothing works - please post back here what you did that worked or didn't work. That kind of information can be invaluable to other members having the same or similar problems - And to me in fixing any problems in the blog.

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I hear ya OP. The random CTD's and freezes have gotten so bad for me the game is almost unplayable. I'm constantly on edge because I'm afraid I'll do something wrong and cause the game to crash. I just wanna play without worrying. :/ Edited by thenobody0
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The game does seem to have gotten more unstable since Dawnguard and Harthfire it is CTDing on me more then ever before and I know it isn't my mods they are all up to date.
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