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Got a new load order/ game CTD's when I try to start new game


cwiilli15

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Hey, guys. First post here. Been modding Oldrim and FO4 for a couple years now, but I'm stumped on this issue. So I downloaded and installed a bunch of mods via Nexus Mod Manager over the past two days. Mind you, I've been able to at least get past the Start screen before this point and play the actual game, BUT after I installed the new mods, organized them all via LOOT AFTER updating LOOT, updated F4SE, dealt with all the flagged issues on LOOT, and cleaned all the files that needed cleaning via FO4EditQuickAutoClean, I get a CTD every time I try to start a new game, continue a saved game, or try to access Bethesda's mods page via the Start menu. You know how it takes a while for FO4 to load all the mods while you're waiting for the game to start after you hit New Game? Well, it CTD's after roughly a minute or two of doing that. No error codes. No warnings. No nothing. Just a clean CTD. I'm booting the game using the latest FS4E loader, running it as an admin, but it does the same thing if I just boot FO4 normally through Steam anyway. Thought maybe Start Me Up didn't install correctly, so I disabled it and tried to start a new game - nope, same CTD happened. I got 0 warnings, 0 errors, and 0 dirty plugins on LOOT. I'm at my wit's end as far as the point of failure is concerned.

Here's my load order:

0 0 Fallout4.esm
1 1 DLCRobot.esm
2 2 DLCWorkshop01.esm
3 3 DLCCoast.esm
4 4 DLCWorkshop02.esm
5 5 DLCWorkshop03.esm
6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm
7 7 unofficial fallout 4 patch.esp
8 8 TrueStormsFO4.esm
9 9 HUDFramework.esm
10 a ArmorKeywords.esm
dlcprojectx_mainplugin.esm
11 b PANPC.esm
12 c SimSettlements.esm
13 d WorkshopFramework.esm
254 FE 0 SimSettlements_Patch_Nukaworld.esl
14 e OVT.esp
254 FE 1 uncappedsettlementsurplus.esp
254 FE 2 CROSS_2077.esp
254 FE 3 CROSS_CryoLance.esp
15 f improved map with visible roads.esp
UIF Faction Mod.esp
16 10 PiperCaitCurieDialogueOverhaul.esp
17 11 moreuniques.esp
18 12 lightsabermod.esp
19 13 mmslaserrcw.esp
20 14 weightless junk.esp
21 15 bigstupidjellyfish.esp
22 16 wkzz_dr_combat_ranger_helm_mod.esp
23 17 BetterModDescriptions.esp
24 18 azarponytailhairstyles.esp
25 19 Armorsmith Extended.esp
26 1a legendary effects - vanilla.esp
27 1b Better Locational Damage.esp
28 1c BLD - Leveled Lists - DLC.esp
29 1d betterenemyweaponvariation.esp
30 1e Extended weapon mods.esp
44muzzlesuppressor.esp
more power armor paint.esp
31 1f aear01.esp
32 20 dd-enhanced blood basic.esp
33 21 craftableammo.esp
34 22 visiblecompanionaffinity.esp
35 23 legendaryhelmsandpowerarmor.esp
36 24 glowing eyes.esp
37 25 the eyes of beauty.esp
38 26 rechamber.esp
39 27 BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp
40 28 lovingcurie.esp
41 29 BetterModDescriptionsEWM.esp
42 2a Fr4nssonsLightTweaks.esp
43 2b HN66-SiriusArmor.esp
44 2c Spartan-Calyps-NoAE.esp
45 2d TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp
46 2e TrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.esp
47 2f TrueStormsFO4-FarHarborExtraRads.esp
48 30 TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp
49 31 TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp
50 32 TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp
51 33 VisibleWeapons.esp
52 34 CROSS_Jetpack.esp
53 35 ChineseStealthSuit.esp
54 36 GlovesOfTheCommonwealth.esp
55 37 Scouter_V1.1_by_Ruddy88.esp
56 38 Colossus.esp
57 39 RichMerchants.esp
58 3a DD_Perk_Reset_WIZURD_HAIRRYY.esp
59 3b combat_PA.esp
60 3c combat_PA - AWKCR.esp
61 3d 3dscopes.esp
62 3e 3dscopes-framework.esp
63 3f 3dscopes-FarHarbor.esp
64 40 3dscopes-NukaWorld.esp
65 41 3dscopes Add+DLC+BMD Sollus91 Custom.esp
66 42 3dscopes-AddToSpawnList.esp
67 43 RangerSequoiaCraft.esp
68 44 AN94.esp
69 45 KaBarBeckerBK9.esp
70 46 Buzz_Axe.esp
71 47 TheJackal.esp
72 48 Custom Legendary Modifications Remade.esp
73 49 DX Courser X-92 Power Suit.esp
74 4a 1nivDX Courser X-92 Power Suit Male.esp
75 4b AA Better Companions - No Conflicts.esp
76 4c Wintermute.esp
77 4d WintermuteCustomBodyTextures.esp
78 4e faded glory - soundtrack expansion.esp
79 4f workshopturretpack.esp
80 50 GS Beretta PX4.esp
81 51 STBB.esp
lovingpiper.esp
82 52 Piper is PIPING hot (Vanilla).1.esp
83 53 lovingcait.esp
84 54 3dnpc_fo4.esp
85 55 cross_plasrail_bethnet.esp
86 56 OutcastsAndRemnants.esp
87 57 AGNISNikaCola01.esp
88 58 MsAbominations.esp
america rising - a tale of the enclave.esp
89 59 TrainBar.esp
90 5a Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp
91 5b BetterSettlers.esp
92 5c BetterSettlersMortalPack.esp
93 5d The Deadly Commonwealth Expansion.esp
94 5e ballisticweaverawkcr-all_in_one.esp
95 5f legendary effects - far harbor edition.esp
96 60 Depravity.esp
97 61 CrimeTown.esp
98 62 Some Assembly Required.esp
99 63 DOOMGlock.esp
deadly gunners of the commonwealth.esp
100 64 cheaters den.esp
254 FE 4 CROSS_InstituteExpeditionarySuit.esp
254 FE 5 CROSS_CourserStrigidae.esp
101 65 FV20_RSS.esp
102 66 CCOFO4 - Traits and More Perks.esp
103 67 AA FusionCityRising.esp
deadly super mutants.esp
104 68 fusion gun.esp
105 69 3dnpc_fo4_dlc.esp
106 6a wrvr.esp
deadly raiders of the commonwealth.esp
107 6b W.A.T.Minutemen.esp
108 6c ballisticweaver.esp
109 6d CompanionAccuracy.esp
110 6e alienassaultrifle.esp
111 6f everyonesbestfriend.esp
112 70 SimSettlements_XPAC_Conqueror.esp
113 71 officersRevolver.esp
114 72 cheatterminal.esp
115 73 Mk41GyrojetHMG.esp
116 74 EnclaveX02.esp
117 75 CROSS_RugerMkV.esp
118 76 CROSS_RugerMkV_NonLethalAddon.esp
119 77 CROSS_RugerMkV_NonLethal_DLCHelmets.esp.esp
120 78 AssaultRifle02.esp
121 79 deadliest explosions.esp
122 7a Better Perks - Enhanced.esp
123 7b AA 50 Ways To Die.esp
124 7c Mercenary.esp
deadly ghouls of the commonwealth.esp
125 7d Glock86.esp
126 7e SCAR-L.esp
deadly bosses.esp
127 7f Moddable Plasma Caster.esp
128 80 powerarmort49.esp
129 81 ProjectValkyrie.esp
130 82 Jackhammer.esp
131 83 MjolnirMKVB.esp
132 84 corvalhowidowshotgun.esp
133 85 chinalakeandholorifle.esp
254 FE 6 CROSS_MojaveManhunter.esp
134 86 LString_Bow.esp
mk14.esp
135 87 F4NVServiceRifleRedux.esp
136 88 rangergearnew.esp
137 89 Wana_SA58.esp
138 8a tsuki no hana.esp
139 8b ellen.esp
140 8c p99.esp
141 8d aestheticradio.esp
M2045MagnumRevolverRifle.esp
142 8e LeeEnfieldNo4MkI.esp
143 8f ButtonsCompanion.esp
144 90 FO4 NPCs Travel.esp
145 91 GS Benelli M3S90.esp
146 92 batmanbeyond.esp
m82a.esp
147 93 fn five-seven v3.0.esp
148 94 DX_Black_Widow.esp
149 95 InstitutePistol.esp
150 96 NanoSuit.esp
151 97 Plasma Saber.esp
152 98 ak74m.esp
153 99 llamaCompanionHeather.esp
154 9a Radio_Olivia_Overnight.esp
155 9b RU556.esp
crudeblowback.esp
254 FE 7 CROSS_BrotherhoodRecon.esp
156 9c linkinparkradio.esp
157 9d awesome mix 2.esp
158 9e CompVex.esp
159 9f DesertEagleNV.esp
160 a0 Beretta92FS-SwordCutlass.esp
161 a1 wm chinese assault rifle - standalone.esp
162 a2 atomicradio.esp
163 a3 80sradiomix.esp
skibsweapons-redux.esp
164 a4 UnionBlaster.esp
165 a5 DOOMRhino.esp
166 a6 MP40.esp
167 a7 ModularGaussRifle.esp
168 a8 Fireaxe.esp
169 a9 Plasma Cycler.esp
170 aa PlasmaCycler_1.5xDamage.esp
171 ab Buzz_Axe_LL.esp
172 ac Hellfirenew.esp
173 ad aemgs4outfit.esp
174 ae CTHColoredFriendliesSneakingAndOrWeaponDrawn-NSL.esp
175 af CROSS_BreakActionLaser.esp
176 b0 DX_Banshee_Recon_Armor.esp
177 b1 Chiappa_Rhino.esp
178 b2 Factor.esp
179 b3 Quad_Fusillade.esp
180 b4 USP .45_by_tooun.esp
181 b5 InstituteTurboplasmaRifle.esp
182 b6 NCRDesertRavenArmor.esp
183 b7 Rage_parasite_suit.esp
184 b8 RealThrowingWeapons.esp
185 b9 Quad_Technetronic.esp
186 ba colt1911.esp
kci.esp
187 bb AK400.esp
188 bc ArdentBlade.esp
189 bd SG550.esp
190 be falcon3.esp
191 bf AUG-A1.esp
192 c0 RSh-12.esp
193 c1 VermillionFrost.esp
194 c2 KrissVector.esp
195 c3 NewerMind43 Nano Suit.esp
196 c4 Archimedes-II.esp
197 c5 ShadeArmorIV.esp
BetterModDescriptionsLM2LMCheat.esp
BetterModDescriptionsLMCheat.esp
BetterModDescriptionsLME.esp
BetterModDescriptionsMPAM.esp
BetterModDescriptionsMW.esp
BetterModDescriptionsUWMR.esp
VermillionFrostLooks1.esp
198 c6 companion infinite ammo.esp
199 c7 AEWS.esp
200 c8 AEWS_NukaWorldPatch.esp
201 c9 jDS__HP_Skull_Mask.esp
202 ca Better VATS - 0.75.esp
203 cb Better Locational Damage - DLC_Automatron.esp
204 cc Better Locational Damage - DLC_WWorkshop.esp
205 cd Better Chems.esp
206 ce Better Locational Damage - DLC_Far_Harbor.esp
207 cf Better Locational Damage - DLC_Nuka_World.esp
254 FE 8 CROSS_CoA.esp
208 d0 El Cazador Armor.esp
209 d1 HK_MP5.esp
210 d2 SV-98.esp
211 d3 KillTips_by_tooun.esp
212 d4 M2_Flamethrower.esp
213 d5 m249.esp
214 d6 McMillanCS5.esp
215 d7 REAPER.esp
216 d8 Scopes.esp
217 d9 RussianAssaultPack.esp
218 da BZW_Reaper.esp
219 db OWR2_TCM.esp
220 dc uzi.esp
221 dd VtawUtilityPack1.esp
222 de XM2010_SniperRifle_by_tooun.esp
armorsmith automatron.esp
223 df BetterModDescriptionsAE.esp
armorsmith far harbor.esp
224 e0 NanoSuit_AWKCR_AE.esp
225 e1 llamaCompanionHeather-AE Patch.esp
226 e2 TDCE + AE Patch.esp
227 e3 Flashy_CrimeAndPunishment.esp
USP .45 Flashy_StealthyTakedowns Patch.esp
228 e4 Revy_Stand_Alone_Follower.esp
229 e5 para ae patch2.esp
230 e6 StartMeUp.esp

Thanks a bunch for the assistance, guys. It sucks putting a ton of time into modding a game and can't even get the damn thing to get past the start menu.

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Some mods have specific instructions to NOT clean them even if LOOT says they should.
Did you read the description pages of the mods you use to see if there's instructions to not clean?

You seem to have a few radio mods installed, are you sure they're all compatible with each other and work together?

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Some mods have specific instructions to NOT clean them even if LOOT says they should.

Did you read the description pages of the mods you use to see if there's instructions to not clean?

 

You seem to have a few radio mods installed, are you sure they're all compatible with each other and work together?

I've never ran into instructions to NOT clean mods before, and I look at installation instructions and compatibility issues on the main mod page before downloading. The point about the radio mods is interesting. I have installed a couple new ones, but they usually just open their own channel in my experience. I'll experiment with disabling all of the standalone radio mods to see if that gets me anywhere. Thanks for the suggestion.

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