cwiilli15 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Hey, guys. First post here. Been modding Oldrim and FO4 for a couple years now, but I'm stumped on this issue. So I downloaded and installed a bunch of mods via Nexus Mod Manager over the past two days. Mind you, I've been able to at least get past the Start screen before this point and play the actual game, BUT after I installed the new mods, organized them all via LOOT AFTER updating LOOT, updated F4SE, dealt with all the flagged issues on LOOT, and cleaned all the files that needed cleaning via FO4EditQuickAutoClean, I get a CTD every time I try to start a new game, continue a saved game, or try to access Bethesda's mods page via the Start menu. You know how it takes a while for FO4 to load all the mods while you're waiting for the game to start after you hit New Game? Well, it CTD's after roughly a minute or two of doing that. No error codes. No warnings. No nothing. Just a clean CTD. I'm booting the game using the latest FS4E loader, running it as an admin, but it does the same thing if I just boot FO4 normally through Steam anyway. Thought maybe Start Me Up didn't install correctly, so I disabled it and tried to start a new game - nope, same CTD happened. I got 0 warnings, 0 errors, and 0 dirty plugins on LOOT. I'm at my wit's end as far as the point of failure is concerned.Here's my load order: 0 0 Fallout4.esm 1 1 DLCRobot.esm 2 2 DLCWorkshop01.esm 3 3 DLCCoast.esm 4 4 DLCWorkshop02.esm 5 5 DLCWorkshop03.esm 6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm 7 7 unofficial fallout 4 patch.esp 8 8 TrueStormsFO4.esm 9 9 HUDFramework.esm 10 a ArmorKeywords.esm dlcprojectx_mainplugin.esm 11 b PANPC.esm 12 c SimSettlements.esm 13 d WorkshopFramework.esm254 FE 0 SimSettlements_Patch_Nukaworld.esl 14 e OVT.esp254 FE 1 uncappedsettlementsurplus.esp254 FE 2 CROSS_2077.esp254 FE 3 CROSS_CryoLance.esp 15 f improved map with visible roads.esp UIF Faction Mod.esp 16 10 PiperCaitCurieDialogueOverhaul.esp 17 11 moreuniques.esp 18 12 lightsabermod.esp 19 13 mmslaserrcw.esp 20 14 weightless junk.esp 21 15 bigstupidjellyfish.esp 22 16 wkzz_dr_combat_ranger_helm_mod.esp 23 17 BetterModDescriptions.esp 24 18 azarponytailhairstyles.esp 25 19 Armorsmith Extended.esp 26 1a legendary effects - vanilla.esp 27 1b Better Locational Damage.esp 28 1c BLD - Leveled Lists - DLC.esp 29 1d betterenemyweaponvariation.esp 30 1e Extended weapon mods.esp 44muzzlesuppressor.esp more power armor paint.esp 31 1f aear01.esp 32 20 dd-enhanced blood basic.esp 33 21 craftableammo.esp 34 22 visiblecompanionaffinity.esp 35 23 legendaryhelmsandpowerarmor.esp 36 24 glowing eyes.esp 37 25 the eyes of beauty.esp 38 26 rechamber.esp 39 27 BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp 40 28 lovingcurie.esp 41 29 BetterModDescriptionsEWM.esp 42 2a Fr4nssonsLightTweaks.esp 43 2b HN66-SiriusArmor.esp 44 2c Spartan-Calyps-NoAE.esp 45 2d TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp 46 2e TrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.esp 47 2f TrueStormsFO4-FarHarborExtraRads.esp 48 30 TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp 49 31 TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp 50 32 TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp 51 33 VisibleWeapons.esp 52 34 CROSS_Jetpack.esp 53 35 ChineseStealthSuit.esp 54 36 GlovesOfTheCommonwealth.esp 55 37 Scouter_V1.1_by_Ruddy88.esp 56 38 Colossus.esp 57 39 RichMerchants.esp 58 3a DD_Perk_Reset_WIZURD_HAIRRYY.esp 59 3b combat_PA.esp 60 3c combat_PA - AWKCR.esp 61 3d 3dscopes.esp 62 3e 3dscopes-framework.esp 63 3f 3dscopes-FarHarbor.esp 64 40 3dscopes-NukaWorld.esp 65 41 3dscopes Add+DLC+BMD Sollus91 Custom.esp 66 42 3dscopes-AddToSpawnList.esp 67 43 RangerSequoiaCraft.esp 68 44 AN94.esp 69 45 KaBarBeckerBK9.esp 70 46 Buzz_Axe.esp 71 47 TheJackal.esp 72 48 Custom Legendary Modifications Remade.esp 73 49 DX Courser X-92 Power Suit.esp 74 4a 1nivDX Courser X-92 Power Suit Male.esp 75 4b AA Better Companions - No Conflicts.esp 76 4c Wintermute.esp 77 4d WintermuteCustomBodyTextures.esp 78 4e faded glory - soundtrack expansion.esp 79 4f workshopturretpack.esp 80 50 GS Beretta PX4.esp 81 51 STBB.esp lovingpiper.esp 82 52 Piper is PIPING hot (Vanilla).1.esp 83 53 lovingcait.esp 84 54 3dnpc_fo4.esp 85 55 cross_plasrail_bethnet.esp 86 56 OutcastsAndRemnants.esp 87 57 AGNISNikaCola01.esp 88 58 MsAbominations.esp america rising - a tale of the enclave.esp 89 59 TrainBar.esp 90 5a Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp 91 5b BetterSettlers.esp 92 5c BetterSettlersMortalPack.esp 93 5d The Deadly Commonwealth Expansion.esp 94 5e ballisticweaverawkcr-all_in_one.esp 95 5f legendary effects - far harbor edition.esp 96 60 Depravity.esp 97 61 CrimeTown.esp 98 62 Some Assembly Required.esp 99 63 DOOMGlock.esp deadly gunners of the commonwealth.esp100 64 cheaters den.esp254 FE 4 CROSS_InstituteExpeditionarySuit.esp254 FE 5 CROSS_CourserStrigidae.esp101 65 FV20_RSS.esp102 66 CCOFO4 - Traits and More Perks.esp103 67 AA FusionCityRising.esp deadly super mutants.esp104 68 fusion gun.esp105 69 3dnpc_fo4_dlc.esp106 6a wrvr.esp deadly raiders of the commonwealth.esp107 6b W.A.T.Minutemen.esp108 6c ballisticweaver.esp109 6d CompanionAccuracy.esp110 6e alienassaultrifle.esp111 6f everyonesbestfriend.esp112 70 SimSettlements_XPAC_Conqueror.esp113 71 officersRevolver.esp114 72 cheatterminal.esp115 73 Mk41GyrojetHMG.esp116 74 EnclaveX02.esp117 75 CROSS_RugerMkV.esp118 76 CROSS_RugerMkV_NonLethalAddon.esp119 77 CROSS_RugerMkV_NonLethal_DLCHelmets.esp.esp120 78 AssaultRifle02.esp121 79 deadliest explosions.esp122 7a Better Perks - Enhanced.esp123 7b AA 50 Ways To Die.esp124 7c Mercenary.esp deadly ghouls of the commonwealth.esp125 7d Glock86.esp126 7e SCAR-L.esp deadly bosses.esp127 7f Moddable Plasma Caster.esp128 80 powerarmort49.esp129 81 ProjectValkyrie.esp130 82 Jackhammer.esp131 83 MjolnirMKVB.esp132 84 corvalhowidowshotgun.esp133 85 chinalakeandholorifle.esp254 FE 6 CROSS_MojaveManhunter.esp134 86 LString_Bow.esp mk14.esp135 87 F4NVServiceRifleRedux.esp136 88 rangergearnew.esp137 89 Wana_SA58.esp138 8a tsuki no hana.esp139 8b ellen.esp140 8c p99.esp141 8d aestheticradio.esp M2045MagnumRevolverRifle.esp142 8e LeeEnfieldNo4MkI.esp143 8f ButtonsCompanion.esp144 90 FO4 NPCs Travel.esp145 91 GS Benelli M3S90.esp146 92 batmanbeyond.esp m82a.esp147 93 fn five-seven v3.0.esp148 94 DX_Black_Widow.esp149 95 InstitutePistol.esp150 96 NanoSuit.esp151 97 Plasma Saber.esp152 98 ak74m.esp153 99 llamaCompanionHeather.esp154 9a Radio_Olivia_Overnight.esp155 9b RU556.esp crudeblowback.esp254 FE 7 CROSS_BrotherhoodRecon.esp156 9c linkinparkradio.esp157 9d awesome mix 2.esp158 9e CompVex.esp159 9f DesertEagleNV.esp160 a0 Beretta92FS-SwordCutlass.esp161 a1 wm chinese assault rifle - standalone.esp162 a2 atomicradio.esp163 a3 80sradiomix.esp skibsweapons-redux.esp164 a4 UnionBlaster.esp165 a5 DOOMRhino.esp166 a6 MP40.esp167 a7 ModularGaussRifle.esp168 a8 Fireaxe.esp169 a9 Plasma Cycler.esp170 aa PlasmaCycler_1.5xDamage.esp171 ab Buzz_Axe_LL.esp172 ac Hellfirenew.esp173 ad aemgs4outfit.esp174 ae CTHColoredFriendliesSneakingAndOrWeaponDrawn-NSL.esp175 af CROSS_BreakActionLaser.esp176 b0 DX_Banshee_Recon_Armor.esp177 b1 Chiappa_Rhino.esp178 b2 Factor.esp179 b3 Quad_Fusillade.esp180 b4 USP .45_by_tooun.esp181 b5 InstituteTurboplasmaRifle.esp182 b6 NCRDesertRavenArmor.esp183 b7 Rage_parasite_suit.esp184 b8 RealThrowingWeapons.esp185 b9 Quad_Technetronic.esp186 ba colt1911.esp kci.esp187 bb AK400.esp188 bc ArdentBlade.esp189 bd SG550.esp190 be falcon3.esp191 bf AUG-A1.esp192 c0 RSh-12.esp193 c1 VermillionFrost.esp194 c2 KrissVector.esp195 c3 NewerMind43 Nano Suit.esp196 c4 Archimedes-II.esp197 c5 ShadeArmorIV.esp BetterModDescriptionsLM2LMCheat.esp BetterModDescriptionsLMCheat.esp BetterModDescriptionsLME.esp BetterModDescriptionsMPAM.esp BetterModDescriptionsMW.esp BetterModDescriptionsUWMR.esp VermillionFrostLooks1.esp198 c6 companion infinite ammo.esp199 c7 AEWS.esp200 c8 AEWS_NukaWorldPatch.esp201 c9 jDS__HP_Skull_Mask.esp202 ca Better VATS - 0.75.esp203 cb Better Locational Damage - DLC_Automatron.esp204 cc Better Locational Damage - DLC_WWorkshop.esp205 cd Better Chems.esp206 ce Better Locational Damage - DLC_Far_Harbor.esp207 cf Better Locational Damage - DLC_Nuka_World.esp254 FE 8 CROSS_CoA.esp208 d0 El Cazador Armor.esp209 d1 HK_MP5.esp210 d2 SV-98.esp211 d3 KillTips_by_tooun.esp212 d4 M2_Flamethrower.esp213 d5 m249.esp214 d6 McMillanCS5.esp215 d7 REAPER.esp216 d8 Scopes.esp217 d9 RussianAssaultPack.esp218 da BZW_Reaper.esp219 db OWR2_TCM.esp220 dc uzi.esp221 dd VtawUtilityPack1.esp222 de XM2010_SniperRifle_by_tooun.esp armorsmith automatron.esp223 df BetterModDescriptionsAE.esp armorsmith far harbor.esp224 e0 NanoSuit_AWKCR_AE.esp225 e1 llamaCompanionHeather-AE Patch.esp226 e2 TDCE + AE Patch.esp227 e3 Flashy_CrimeAndPunishment.esp USP .45 Flashy_StealthyTakedowns Patch.esp228 e4 Revy_Stand_Alone_Follower.esp229 e5 para ae patch2.esp230 e6 StartMeUp.espThanks a bunch for the assistance, guys. It sucks putting a ton of time into modding a game and can't even get the damn thing to get past the start menu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadToRegister Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Some mods have specific instructions to NOT clean them even if LOOT says they should.Did you read the description pages of the mods you use to see if there's instructions to not clean?You seem to have a few radio mods installed, are you sure they're all compatible with each other and work together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwiilli15 Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share Posted March 7, 2020 Some mods have specific instructions to NOT clean them even if LOOT says they should.Did you read the description pages of the mods you use to see if there's instructions to not clean? You seem to have a few radio mods installed, are you sure they're all compatible with each other and work together?I've never ran into instructions to NOT clean mods before, and I look at installation instructions and compatibility issues on the main mod page before downloading. The point about the radio mods is interesting. I have installed a couple new ones, but they usually just open their own channel in my experience. I'll experiment with disabling all of the standalone radio mods to see if that gets me anywhere. Thanks for the suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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