Vortex Mod List VS Load Order

[daddyattitude]

As I was in the beginnings of a post in the Fallout 4 section, I realized I could not find any kind, or type of device, or mechanism to get a Mod list or Load Order List from Vortex.

 

Are the Mod list and Load Order list the same? Are you Sure???

I ask because I have 2 mods installed that have no .esm/.esp file.

Also, most all the mods for my fallout 4 game are dumped in the 'default' group on the load page. What's up with that????

Could this be part of my issue? Can't post about it cause I can't get a load order.

 

Did I miss the memo on how to make a list?

 

And please do not ask me to install another mod manager to get a list. Why? If Vortex is lacking, why am I using it?

[Tannin42]

Mod order and load order are not the same.

Mod order is the order in which vortex deploys mods and thereby which files get overwritten if two mods contain the same file. This primarily affects assets (textures, meshes, ...)

Load order is the order in which the game loads plugins (esp, esm, esl). It only affects those files and files with different names can still conflict with each other because records within those plugins may try to affect the same areas of the game.

 

If you have to ask what the groups are and how to get at the load order, please, just leave the load order alone until you do understand these things? Vortex uses LOOT to automatically sort the load order without any user interference and most of the time it will do so correctly. If you don't understand the difference between mod order and load order or where your load order is stored so you can post it, there is no way you're going to _improve_ your load order over what LOOT did automatically anyway.

Vortex is not lacking anything you need.

Just play the game and if you wish to understand more, start with the basics, don't start at step 5.

[daddyattitude]

Mod order and load order are not the same.

Mod order is the order in which vortex deploys mods and thereby which files get overwritten if two mods contain the same file. This primarily affects assets (textures, meshes, ...)

Load order is the order in which the game loads plugins (esp, esm, esl). It only affects those files and files with different names can still conflict with each other because records within those plugins may try to affect the same areas of the game.

 

If you have to ask what the groups are and how to get at the load order, please, just leave the load order alone until you do understand these things? Vortex uses LOOT to automatically sort the load order without any user interference and most of the time it will do so correctly. If you don't understand the difference between mod order and load order or where your load order is stored so you can post it, there is no way you're going to _improve_ your load order over what LOOT did automatically anyway.

Vortex is not lacking anything you need.

Just play the game and if you wish to understand more, start with the basics, don't start at step 5.

 

Please forgive me as 1000 pm at night is probably not the best time for me to post for help. Eyes being bloodshot and bleary.

Obviously, I did not clearly make my request known.

Yes, I know the MODS list and the PLUGINS list are totally different. Although IMHO the PLUGINS list should have every entry so it matches the MODS list.

 

Question # 1.

Where do I obtain this list of my "LOAD ORDER" from Vortex for posting in the forums?

 

Question # 2.

Is this 'load order' the list of installed Mods?

OR

Is this 'load order' the list of Plugins?

 

Question # 3.

If the list is from the Plugins, then why do you not consider the installed .nif 'loose files'?

 

I do not use .ESL files at this time. There are none in the PLUGINS list/section.