Anthropoid Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 TLDR: I was able to get 95% of the mods I already had installed in my older instance of the game installed from the nexus servers with Vortex. But a couple of the oldest ones (e.g., Faster Terminal Displays, jokerineveggiefoods, Eli's Armour Compendium [which is a dependency of Better Settlers CCAP]) seem to no longer be on nexus mods. Anyone know how I could find the Nexus Mod Manager equivalent of that Vortex mod staging folder so I can maybe get those last couple oldies installed from files? I'm the guy who kept his summer 2017 "pre-Creation Club" build but hadn't played the game for years. Finally played it recently (still runs fine). Then decided to try for a second instance install of FO4 (along with a second F4SE and a separate mod set but this time managed with Vortex instead of NMM). About the only real 'problem' I've seen so far: (a) both versions of F4SE seem to want to write files to the same directory (not a huge problem, and I can probably reconfigure that in F4SE?); (b) not sure, but it seems like there is at least one file which the two instances are sharing, something kind of .txt file, the name of which is now eluding me but I think something like "preview.txt". I have switched between installing with Vortex to launching FO4 with NMM a couple times during the process of getting the second modded instance installed, and whenever I would open NMM, a bunch of the mods would be deactivated. Then when I'd close NMM and go back to Vortex I'd get this warning about a file being "write only" and having to give it permission to "fix" it. I guess it doesn't really matter if the contents of the file can get rewritten by the mod manager app+F4SE each time I switch between instances, though obviously this would make having both instances running simultaneously problematic. I could not see how to export a load list inside Vortex' GUI, so I had to use powershell to write all the token names inside the mod staging folder instead. Pretty much the same Achievements v1-0-5-12465-1-0-5All-In-One Better Mod Descriptions-4760-2-1Another Life V1.08-14253-1-08Armor and Weapon Keywords Community Resource v8.6.0-6091-v8-6-0-1578253623Armorsmith Extended v4.6-2228-v4-6-1550963207Better Companions - No Conflicts v.1.3-24233-1-3Better Settlers v2.0 Master FOMOD-4772-2-0bettercapsforfood-14619-1-0BodySlide and Outfit Studio - v5.0.3-25-5-0-3-1585524303BS NS BFS Merged Patch v. 1.5 - FOMOD (Version Fix)-10202-1-5Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Enhancer - v2.6.2-15-2-6-2-1562180402CBBE skimpy armor and clothing all in one installer-7718-2-4CombatZoneRestored-21498-1-02CompanionsGPS 1.2-11088-1-2Conquest 1.3 Release-12511-1-3Craftable Ammo 0.9-798-0-9Crafting Workbenches - NMM -2451-2-2Darker Nights-191-1-11p6Eli's Armour Collection 3.4 - VANILLA-7369-3-4Everyone's Best Friend v3.0.0-13459-3-0-0ExpandedSettlementBuildingsV1.5-3126-1-5Fallout 4 Configuration Tool-102-1-3-5-2024FO4 Hotkeys - Option 1 - Full - v1.2-11664-1-2FO4 Seasons - Autumn 3.5.1 - All-in-One - BA2 Version-5810-3-5-1-1540930941Follower Stealth Distance Fixes - Now with Dog Leash-15823-4-1Give Me That Bottle - DLC (Requires Far Harbor)-13193-2-6aHigher Settlement Budget 1.3 Nexus Mod Manager-818-1-3HoloTime 2 (v2.3.3) Eng-22372-2-3-3HUDFramework 1.0f-20309-1-0fIcebreaker Settlements-25972-1-03ImmersiveVendors300-EN-10039-3-0Improved Map with Visible Roads 2.0-1215-2-0Legendary Modification-4042-1-75Looks Menu Customization Compendium-24830-v10LooksMenu v1-6-18-12631-1-6-18-1575863217Lots More Facial Hair v. 1.21-10746-1-21Lots More Female Hairstyles v. 1.33-10543-1-33Lots More Male Hairstyles v. 1.21 - Fix-10695-1-21FixLowered Weapons 1.1-522-1-0Main file-1145-3-9Military MREs - (Script-Injected Lists) v1.1-25824-1-1Mod Configuration Menu 1.39-21497-1-39-1575706632mods.txtMore Weaves-4332-1-2MWTCF Main Mod 3.1-637-3-1NMM Installer - Default and Bonus Carry Weight-214-2-0OCDecorator - Ver1.1.3-4270-1-1-3Old World Radio - Boston v5.01-9048-6-0Place (Fallout4 1.10.163 - latest release)-9424-1-18-0-1163-1575581603Ponytail Hairstyles by Azar v2_5a - Loose files-8126-2-5aPre War Safes-3306-1-1Quieter Settlements v0.31-2819-Rich Merchants-2727-1-1Robot Home Defence-5787-1-50Scrap Everything-5320-2-5-5-1563721401Scrappable Conquest-17053-0-1Settlement Attacks Beyond-12892-1-1Settlement Keywords Expanded v1.60-12226-v1-60Sim Settlements - Rise of the Commonwealth 4.2.0-28599-4-2-0-1576254876Sim Settlements v4.2.5-21872-4-2-5-1586547167SSEx Settlement Keywords Patch-8191-001Survival Options v1.7.1-14650-1-7-1The M2216 V1.1-8807-1-1True Storms - Wasteland Edition v1.4.1-4472-1-4VAFS Redux-36519-1-3-1-1565016886vortex.deployment.msgpackWe Are The Minutemen-6443-7-5-1578349541Wearable Backpacks and Pouches-3258-1-4 I think there may be one or two in that list which are actually deactivated. As I said, my old pre-Creation Club build continues to work without problem, but I was intrigued by the "Another Life" and the "Seasons" mods and wanted to check those out. I see that the mod ecosystem for the game has evolved a great deal, even though many of the most famous mods from two years ago remain very active. I see that there is this thing "Horizons" which sounds interesting. Any suggestions along those lines which would play nice with my list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadToRegister Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 All you need to do is look in your NMM DOWNLOAD folder (If you still have it), and then drag and drop the archives into the Vortex Download Folder, or onto the "Drop Files Here" part of Vortex Also, don't switch between NMM and Vortex.Pick a mod manager and stick with it.Also, if you haven't updated your game since your 2017 install then don't expect ANY mod that uses F4SE to work with your version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthropoid Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 All you need to do is look in your NMM DOWNLOAD folder (If you still have it), and then drag and drop the archives into the Vortex Download Folder, or onto the "Drop Files Here" part of Vortex Also, don't switch between NMM and Vortex.Pick a mod manager and stick with it. Also, if you haven't updated your game since your 2017 install then don't expect ANY mod that uses F4SE to work with your version Right! I have two instances of the game, and my reason for using Vortex is to (a) use the more up to date version of the manager and (b) to use a different manager for the newer instance of the game. Any idea what the default path for the NMM "download" folder is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadToRegister Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Not going to work, because a mod manager will treat them both as one instance and make only ONE Plugins.txtIt's worth it to just upgrade the game, you can always install the mod that removes Creation Club, and the CC News from the main menuPlus, you'll be stuck using an old version of F4SE and old mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anselmp Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 My first runs of Skyrim several years ago were with LE and NMM. This was my introduction to mods which I then used on a few other games. I was happy enough with this. When Vortex came out it was still not in its full version when I stopped playing Skyrim, so I did not load it.When I returned to Skyrim a few months ago it seemed natural to go for the latest version of everything, so I turned to Vortex, which seemed to be ready. It took me a couple of days to sort it out, but since then everything has gone smoothly on that front. Every problem I have had I have been able to put down to a particular mod or the relationship between mods. I used to be a mainframe programmer, so I work through things as logically as I can, well aware of the rule that if it can go wrong it will (eventually). I did not use any old files. Download the latest versions. Check the requirements and description. You will probably find mention of other mods you did not know about. If I go back to FO4 the same will apply. I have already uninstalled the game and removed all of the mods (partly for space), but I keep it as an owned game on Steam. As for saved games, these can be stored anywhere, just in case they may still work.To HadToRegister: I have hardly looked at these Vortex forums because I had no problems with Vortex. I did not realise how much entertainment was to be had and how much could be learnt about some well-known (in this field) names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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