Syco21 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Now you are just being silly. The rifles was at the scene of the crime though. Despite many reporters that say he didn't use the rifle is actually inaccurate. The reports state the weapons could have not been used. A little different than saying he didn't use the weapon. Also an AR-15 is just a M16 modifed to only to be used to be semi automatic an M16 is an assault rifle. The manufactures can claim what ever they want to label it as "sporting rifle" sounds friendly. Attacking me saying "I am ignorant of what an AR-15 is and how it operates" does not help your talking points or make your arguements stronger. The main mechanism of operation for the AR-15 is known as direct gas impingement. Direct impingement is a type of gas operation for a firearm that directs gas from a fired cartridge directly to the bolt carrier or slide assembly to cycle the action. This type of mechanism of operation is exactly set up the same way as an M16. Please feel free to call me ignorant more about not knowing how an AR-15 operates if it makes you feel better to strengthen your arguements.So you're saying the M-16 is an assault rifle and that the AR-15 is also an assault rifle because they both use direct gas impingement systems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colourwheel Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 (edited) Now you are just being silly. The rifles was at the scene of the crime though. Despite many reporters that say he didn't use the rifle is actually inaccurate. The reports state the weapons could have not been used. A little different than saying he didn't use the weapon. Also an AR-15 is just a M16 modifed to only to be used to be semi automatic an M16 is an assault rifle. The manufactures can claim what ever they want to label it as "sporting rifle" sounds friendly. Attacking me saying "I am ignorant of what an AR-15 is and how it operates" does not help your talking points or make your arguements stronger. The main mechanism of operation for the AR-15 is known as direct gas impingement. Direct impingement is a type of gas operation for a firearm that directs gas from a fired cartridge directly to the bolt carrier or slide assembly to cycle the action. This type of mechanism of operation is exactly set up the same way as an M16. Please feel free to call me ignorant more about not knowing how an AR-15 operates if it makes you feel better to strengthen your arguements.So you're saying the M-16 is an assault rifle and that the AR-15 is also an assault rifle because they both use direct gas impingement systems? No... I am saying the direct gas impingement system is exactly setup the same way by design completely identical. basically an AR-15 is just a M-16 without an automatic fire switch. direct gas impingement system design the weapon has is how the weapon has the capability to rapidly fire if one simply wishes to modify it to shoot like a fully automatic M-16 Edited December 31, 2012 by colourwheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghogiel Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 (edited) I did explain why your argument fails. It's a logical fallacy to say in the context of gun control that because cars kill more people than guns, therefore guns aren't a threat to the public at large. Guns have killed way more people than A-bombs have, yet the US government just went around and killed 100k people in Iraq over imaginary WMDs... a lot of them were killed with guns. Therefore nukes are safe.Nukes are a threat to you? When was the last time someone was killed with one? Guns aren't a threat to the public at large because out of 330,000,000 people, 2,500,000 deaths only 8,000k people are killed with them. That's 0.002% of the population. If you want a larger percentage, it's still only 0.32% of all deaths. Doctors and pharmaceuticals have a higher death toll than guns. Malpractice is responsible for nearly 200,000 deaths per year. That's 7.8% of all deaths. If doctors aren't a threat to the population, then guns sure as hell ain't. My point is that the few murders that happen are insignificant when compared to the population as a whole and don't even come close to outweighing the benefits of DGUs, of which there are at least 100,000 each year.Please stop. You have expanded the fallacy to include doctors and pharmaceuticals now. If you actually take it to include fruitflies and UFO fatalities I'm going to die of laughter, Please don't come up with a statistic about how laughter kills more people than X does therefore X is OK. Edited December 31, 2012 by Ghogiel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syco21 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 No... I am saying the direct gas impingement system is exactly setup the same way by design completely identical. basically an AR-15 is just a M-16 without an automatic fire switch. direct gas impingement system design the weapon has is how the weapon has the capability to rapidly fire if one simply wishes to modify it to shoot like a fully automatic M-16I think you just did it again! Is the AR-15 an assault rifle or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colourwheel Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 (edited) No... I am saying the direct gas impingement system is exactly setup the same way by design completely identical. basically an AR-15 is just a M-16 without an automatic fire switch. direct gas impingement system design the weapon has is how the weapon has the capability to rapidly fire if one simply wishes to modify it to shoot like a fully automatic M-16I think you just did it again! Is the AR-15 an assault rifle or not? Please stop with this pointless questioning about the weapon. If you don't know enough about the weapon you should do your own research on it yourself. You earlier claimed me being ignorant to how the weapon operates yet asking me if an AR-15 is an assault rifle? the irony... By design the AR-15 is an assult rifle reguardless what the manufacturers want to label it as (they label it as a "sporting rifle" so friendly sounding) . Especially since it's operating system design is identical to the M-16 and an M-16 is an assault rifle. AR-15 can be modified to shoot automatically since all the weapon is is basiclly an M-16 without fully automatic firing switch. But let me ask you this do you think people really need an AR-15 as a "sporting rifle"? If you think it is just a "sporting rifle".... Why not ban weapons like the AR-15 if it can be modified into a fully automatic M-16? Since ideally the 2nd amendment was made to give people the right to bare arms to protect ourselves from tyranny not for sporting and the Federal Assault Weapons Ban makes owning fully automatic weapons illegal. Edited December 31, 2012 by colourwheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syco21 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Please stop with this pointless questioning about the weapon. If you don't know enough about the weapon you should do your own research on it yourself. You earlier claimed me being ignorant to how the weapon operates yet asking me if an AR-15 is an assault rifle? the irony... By design the AR-15 is an assult rifle reguardless what the manufacturers want to label it as (they label it as a "sporting rifle" so friendly sounding) . Especially since it's operating system design is identical to the M-16 and an M-16 is an assault rifle. AR-15 can be modified to shoot automatically since all the weapon is is basiclly a M-16 without fully automatic firing switch.Thank you for answering my question! I have just a few more, please humor me. Would you be so kind as to point out to me which of these weapons are assault rifles and which are not? http://imgur.com/a/YBhJx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colourwheel Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 (edited) Please stop with this pointless questioning about the weapon. If you don't know enough about the weapon you should do your own research on it yourself. You earlier claimed me being ignorant to how the weapon operates yet asking me if an AR-15 is an assault rifle? the irony... By design the AR-15 is an assult rifle reguardless what the manufacturers want to label it as (they label it as a "sporting rifle" so friendly sounding) . Especially since it's operating system design is identical to the M-16 and an M-16 is an assault rifle. AR-15 can be modified to shoot automatically since all the weapon is is basiclly a M-16 without fully automatic firing switch.Thank you for answering my question! I have just a few more, please humor me. Would you be so kind as to point out to me which of these weapons are assault rifles and which are not? http://imgur.com/a/YBhJx No I can't! Not without seeing the Sample Model numbers clearly. Those weapons could just be prop models for all I know... But the desert eagle is obviously not a rifle. lol Thats the last question I am answering for you until you answer some of mine from my previous post. Edited December 31, 2012 by colourwheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syco21 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I Assure You, All Of ThosE Guns Are Precisely What They Appear To Be: Real Guns That Fire Real Bullets. As For your Questions: You need to Give Me A Damn Good Reason For Banning any Gun And So Far You Haven't. As For Need, Does Anyone Need A Car That will Travel Faster Than The Speed Limit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colourwheel Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 Does Anyone Need A Car That will Travel Faster Than The Speed Limit? No lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syco21 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Can You Answer My Other Question Now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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