Help with Fo4/Vortex mods, started to ctd recently

[matgalera]

Hello there.

I hope someone can help me. Im sure you heard about this problem a lot and I tried to googled it but couldnt pinpoint a solution.

Im relatively new to modding. I download Vortex and been using it for about a year adding some popular mods here and there.

Recently I installed Outcasts & Remnants quest mod, and Im pretty sure the problem started there but I dont know if to blame the mod.

Basically, Im crashing to desktop either when I want to fast travel, or just enter a building or location, after a few seconds on the loading screen, game just stop and goes to desktop.

 

Probably something to configure or the load order (which I never tried to change or know how)
If you can help me with this would be great I was having a blast playing Fo4 with mods for the first time.

If you need my specs or the list of the load order (if you tell me how to get it and paste it here) glad to provide.

Thanks in advance.

 

[HadToRegister]

Did you read the troubleshooting guide on the Mod Pages Articles Tab?

Crash-to-Desktop when loading the game or loading a save

Troubleshooting steps:

1) Add the following lines to your "Fallout4Custom.ini" file located in "Documents\MyGames\Fallout4", if they aren't there already:

[Archive]
bInvalidateOlderFiles=1
sResourceDataDirsFinal=

(Not a typo. You also don't need to add it again if it's already there).

2) Check if you have the mod Functional Displays installed. Fusion City Rising, if you're running that, is not compatible with Functional Displays unless you install the compatibility patch located in the miscellaneous files section for FCR.

3) Install Outcasts & Remnants using a mod manager like NMM or Mod Organizer 2 (or Vortex, ugh).

4) Load all your mods in FO4Edit to ensure you aren’t missing any file dependencies. If not all the mods load, FO4Edit will indicated where the error occurred and what's missing.

If none of that works:

5) Load an older save.

6) Open Steam Library and verify the integrity of your game files (right click Fallout 4-> Preferences -> Local Files -> Verify Integrity). That will rebuild your Fallout4Prefs.ini

Most important, don't activate and then de-activate mods with .esp files in the middle of a play-through. Bethesda games do not support this, and doing so risks corrupting your save game.

[matgalera]

Hey there!

Well lets see:

I added the lines to the .ini file. Just double checked, its there.

I dont have or ever installed Functional Displays or Fusion City yet..

I downloaded manually and installed with Vortex the Outcasts quest.

What I dont understand is the last part, loading the mods in Fo4Edit, where is that ?

 

 

 

Did you read the troubleshooting guide on the Mod Pages Articles Tab?

Crash-to-Desktop when loading the game or loading a save

Troubleshooting steps:

1) Add the following lines to your "Fallout4Custom.ini" file located in "Documents\MyGames\Fallout4", if they aren't there already:

[Archive]
bInvalidateOlderFiles=1
sResourceDataDirsFinal=

(Not a typo. You also don't need to add it again if it's already there).

2) Check if you have the mod Functional Displays installed. Fusion City Rising, if you're running that, is not compatible with Functional Displays unless you install the compatibility patch located in the miscellaneous files section for FCR.

3) Install Outcasts & Remnants using a mod manager like NMM or Mod Organizer 2 (or Vortex, ugh).

4) Load all your mods in FO4Edit to ensure you aren’t missing any file dependencies. If not all the mods load, FO4Edit will indicated where the error occurred and what's missing.

If none of that works:

5) Load an older save.

6) Open Steam Library and verify the integrity of your game files (right click Fallout 4-> Preferences -> Local Files -> Verify Integrity). That will rebuild your Fallout4Prefs.ini

Most important, don't activate and then de-activate mods with .esp files in the middle of a play-through. Bethesda games do not support this, and doing so risks corrupting your save game.

 

[rmm200]

I play Fusion City Rising, Outcasts and Remnants, and Project Valkyrie - because I love the story and the characters.

I have a special profile just for those, because - for me - they make Fallout 4 unstable. Lots of random CTDs.

Of these 3, I only use Fusion City in my main profile. I have not seen any instability with that one.

 

Important note: Do not put big mods you are not sure of in your main profile without a lot of testing.

Vortex profiles make mod isolation easy.

[matgalera]

Ok I have no clue what you just said there, thats my honest noob level !

Do you mean I should do a separate profile for those quest mods ? In that case, How do I do that ?

And they still run in the same game on different profiles ? Profiles mean user ?

 

I play Fusion City Rising, Outcasts and Remnants, and Project Valkyrie - because I love the story and the characters.

I have a special profile just for those, because - for me - they make Fallout 4 unstable. Lots of random CTDs.

Of these 3, I only use Fusion City in my main profile. I have not seen any instability with that one.

 

Important note: Do not put big mods you are not sure of in your main profile without a lot of testing.

Vortex profiles make mod isolation easy.

[HadToRegister]

When you installed the Outcasts and Remnants Mod, did you install it on a game you were currently playing, or did you start a new game?

Because Installing/Uninstalling mods in the middle of a play through is a huge No-No

[matgalera]

Oh I installed and started playing in the middle of a playthough. Around level 60. Didnt advance too much on the main quest just fooling around.

You say that could be the reason ? I need to start a fresh game for those type of quests ?

 

When you installed the Outcasts and Remnants Mod, did you install it on a game you were currently playing, or did you start a new game?

Because Installing/Uninstalling mods in the middle of a play through is a huge No-No

[HadToRegister]

 

Oh I installed and started playing in the middle of a playthough. Around level 60. Didnt advance too much on the main quest just fooling around.

You say that could be the reason ? I need to start a fresh game for those type of quests ?

 

When you installed the Outcasts and Remnants Mod, did you install it on a game you were currently playing, or did you start a new game?

 

Because Installing/Uninstalling mods in the middle of a play through is a huge No-No

 

 

 

You should NOT, under any circumstances, install or remove a mod, in a game you're still playing.

 

If you install or remove a mod, you should start a new game, because you have basically ruined any character you had if you installed or uninstalled a mod in the middle of a play through, such as with a level 60 character.

Adding/removing a mod or mods in the middle of a play through, changes the mod index, so Scripts end up being orphaned because their mod index changes (The first two numbers), which means thos script will just sit "Dead" in your savegames, and continue to bloat the save game, or make you have really long loading times, and cause CTDS.

 

NEVER add/remove mods if you're already committed to that character

[matgalera]

Ok wow, really didnt know that. I assumed people just added mods to the same playthough as they go by.

Good to know then.

In any case, is there a way to know if the load order could be causing any sort of trouble ?

 

 

 

Oh I installed and started playing in the middle of a playthough. Around level 60. Didnt advance too much on the main quest just fooling around.

You say that could be the reason ? I need to start a fresh game for those type of quests ?

 

When you installed the Outcasts and Remnants Mod, did you install it on a game you were currently playing, or did you start a new game?

Because Installing/Uninstalling mods in the middle of a play through is a huge No-No

 

 

 

You should NOT, under any circumstances, install or remove a mod, in a game you're still playing.

If you install or remove a mod, you should start a new game, because you have basically ruined any character you had if you installed or uninstalled a mod in the middle of a play through, such as with a level 60 character.
Adding/removing a mod or mods in the middle of a play through, changes the mod index, so Scripts end up being orphaned because their mod index changes (The first two numbers), which means thos script will just sit "Dead" in your savegames, and continue to bloat the save game, or make you have really long loading times, and cause CTDS.

NEVER add/remove mods if you're already committed to that character

 

[HadToRegister]

 

Ok wow, really didnt know that. I assumed people just added mods to the same playthough as they go by.

Good to know then.

In any case, is there a way to know if the load order could be causing any sort of trouble ?

 

 

 

 

Vortex will tell you if the load order is causing trouble.

 

Your problem is likely to be the fact that you installed the mod on your level 60 character, and offset a ton of scripts and orphaned them which is now now causing CTDs, and is also Baked into your Savegame, meaning that if you overwrote your Saves that didn't have "Outcasts & Remnants" in, it now does permanently