How To Merge Multiple Mods with Multiple Master Files

[RPGXOmega]

Ok. So I am a bit confused about the ID's.

 

I was thinking of merging:

06 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
0E mintylightningmod.esp
0F MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp
70 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp
71 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp
72 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp
73 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
74 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp

75 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
76 ClimatesOfTamriel-WinterEdition.esp

 

Possibly would like to merge

1D Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-4.esp
1E Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - default.esp
1F Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-2.esp
20 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-3.esp
21 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-1.esp

 

into it as well. What would be the best method to merge all of these? Like keep the others in one pack, and the Lanterns in it's own pack. Or can I fuse them all?

 

Later I am going to merge:

58 throwingweapons.esp
59 throwing_weapons_leveledlists_plugin.esp
5A Throwing_Weapons_Misc_Plugin.esp
5B Throwing_Weapons_PerkTree_Plugin.esp
5C throwing_weapons_quiver_plugin.esp

 

into it's own merged mod.

[matortheeternal]

Ok. So I am a bit confused about the ID's.

 

I was thinking of merging:

06 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

0E mintylightningmod.esp

0F MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp

70 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp

71 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp

72 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp

73 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp

74 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp

75 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

76 ClimatesOfTamriel-WinterEdition.esp

 

Possibly would like to merge

1D Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-4.esp

1E Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - default.esp

1F Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-2.esp

20 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-3.esp

21 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-1.esp

 

into it as well. What would be the best method to merge all of these? Like keep the others in one pack, and the Lanterns in it's own pack. Or can I fuse them all?

 

Later I am going to merge:

58 throwingweapons.esp

59 throwing_weapons_leveledlists_plugin.esp

5A Throwing_Weapons_Misc_Plugin.esp

5B Throwing_Weapons_PerkTree_Plugin.esp

5C throwing_weapons_quiver_plugin.esp

 

into it's own merged mod.

 

Everything that can be merged at all can be merged with everything else that can be merged. (with a few exceptions)

 

So you could make one ESP which is a merged file of all those other ESPs you listed.

 

 

I would not recommend merging ClimatesOfTamriel.esm. You can merge the patch files, but don't merge the ESM. Merging ESMs is not a supported function and will give you problems 90% of the time.

[emieri00]

I heard that TES5EDIT couldn't merge leveled lists, spells or scripts or something like that? I want to clarify things before i can move on.

 

I have various mods which add items to the world, either craftable, or buyable, or placed in specific areas. They DO eat up a nice bite of the load order limit, so i'd love to reduce it a bit by merging said mods. I'll list them, and if any of them has any sort of possible issue i can think up, i'll note by their name.

09 Jswords.esm [JaySus swords]

 

18 weapons and armor fixes _remade.esp [Weapons and armor fixes remade]

 

2c CrossbowsRevamped.esp [Crossbows Revamped - has leveled lists]

 

4c BloodWitchArmor.esp [By Zerofrost]

4d Raven Witch Armor.esp [by Zerofrost]

4e BosmerArmorMATY743.esp [Bosmer Armor Pack - edits the thalmor]

51 DaggerCraft.esp [Daggercraft package all 5 daggers - has new enchantments for each dagger]

52 DiamondWeaponsN.esp [Diamond weapons - has new enchantments for added arrows]

53 DiamondCrossbow.esp [Diamond weapons - has new enchantments for added bolts]

57 Gri_Scarf_and_Gugel.esp [grimoas scarf and gugel]

58 Fur Collar.esp [by hothtrooper44]

 

5b jSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp [Compatibility patch for jaysus swords]

 

5d SLN_ElderScroll.esp [multi position elder scrolls on back]

5f MoreNamedBows.esp [more artifact bows]

60 Nicoroshi Creations.esp [By Nicoroshi]

61 NightingaleCrossbow.esp [by DJjojo]

 

64 Third Era - Dwemer.esp [insanity's dwemer weapons - has leveled lists]

65 SilverBowAndSilverArrows.esp [by cat_woman1989 - has silver enchantment applied to arrows and maybe bows too. Adds a table with some samples right before riverwood]

67 tbmChrysamere,esp [Tamrielic lore Chrysamere - likely has a quest]

6b Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp [Tribunal robes and masks]

6d Unique Uniques.esp [by insanitysorrow - tweaks many unique weapons]

 

6f Dr_bandolier.esp [Bandolier bags and pouches - no enchants version, not yet updated to 1.2]

70 Dr_bandolierDG.esp [bandolier bags and pouches - dawnguard version]

71 BandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp [by omeletter - leveled lists for bandolier]

72 BandolierForNPCsCloaksOfSkyrim.esp [same as above, organizes the tanning rack by separating clothing and accessories from the rest - works with grimoa's scarf and gugel too but only has dependencies to cloaks of skyrim and bandolier]

 

a5 MysticGloves.esp [by volek - edits the vendor list of drevis neloren or other mage at winterhold. Very old mod, but seems harmless]

 

just installed: 5e Mavari Armor.esp [by Zerofrost]

just installed: 66 Sword master armor.esp [Deadly trio armors. tweaks one cell to get the armors. Npcs i think.]

 

 

And here are POSSIBLE candidates for the merging too.

27 LPMoreIngredients.esp [more alchemy ingredients - edits harvesting and probably leveled lists too]

30 ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp [by lautasantenni - adds new and varied types of jewelry - using the leveled lists option by SIGMALOG]

 

4f Cloaks.esp [Cloaks of Skyrim - has dependency with the bandolier for npcs mod]

50 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp [dawnguard option]

 

55 FamilyJewels.esp [plugin that is part of Diamond weapons - adds crafting recipes to extract jewels from some unenchanted vanilla jewelry]

 

59 hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp [Immersive Armors - big mod, contains leveled lists]

5a Immersive Weapons.esp [by hothtrooper44, ironman5000 and Eckss - big mod, contains leveled lists]

 

62 Prvtl_HeavyArmory.esp [Heavy Armory - big mod, likely contains leveled lists.]

63 Prvtl_HeavyArmory_DG_Addon.esp [using all-dlcs version. not just dawnguard]

 

69 TMasks-JudgementDay.esp [Tribunal Masks Judgement day - adds npcs scattered around various dungeons.]

6a Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp [Tribunal robes and masks - Has no direct link in the esp to the above mod. It's here for precaution]

 

cd gri_beastFeet.esp [grimoa's plantigrade feet for beast races - contains armor addon]

ce immersivehoodwithcirclets.esp [Part of Circlets with helmets legendary edition to be used with Immersive armors. Main esp of the mod was already merged by me with Improved closefaced helmets and submitted to the nexus. This one is only dependent on Immersive armors and wasn't merged]

 

recently installed: 56 FS_UltimateAssortment.esp - Favored soul ultimate assortment - contains edits to belethor's vendor list

recently installed: 54 Falmer Crossbow.esp - by D0VAK11N adds a falmer crossbow to some chests in specific falmer dungeons, and one with some bolts on the floor of whiterun

 

I hope i provided enough information and what i expect of the merging, and what could be a problem during the process. If someone has any suggestions of what i can safely try to merge, and what i shouldn't even touch, i'm open to suggestions. This is some big merging, and i'm sure things can go wrong, and not everything will be possible to enter the final merged esp.

 

If my load order is needed, i can post it too.

 

[emieri00]

Double post... damned connection.

Edited August 15, 2013 by emieri00

[matortheeternal]

@emieri00:

 

Please see:

http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/1033740-merging-user-reports/

 

All the mods you listed look OK to merge on first glance.

[emieri00]

Wow, this is... a surprise. I didn't expect to get a positive response so soon. Of course, i need to try and merge them yet. Before i do, tho... Two questions.

 

What's the problem of trying to merge an esm? [looking at jaysus swords here.]

 

why some BSAs should be extracted after merging?

[Sharlikran]

What's the problem of trying to merge an esm? [looking at jaysus swords here.]

 

why some BSAs should be extracted after merging?

Skyrim looks at the name of the ESP/ESM. So JSwords.esm for example the BSA is JSwords.bsa. Once you merge the files your plugin might be called MyArmorMods.esp. So Skyrim will look for MyArmorMods.bsa and if it does not find that then it looks for the files in the folders indicated in the plugin. In either case if you don't unpack the BSA file and copy the files where they need to go Skyrim can't find the files and any number of things will happen or Skyrim will crash.

 

You normally don't merge ESM files because if you download a mod that requires JSwords.esm but you merged it into MyArmorMods.esp you would then logically, uninstall JSwords.esm because it's not needed. Now the mod that requires JSwords.esm will cause Skyrim to crash because the ESM file does not exist. Skyrim won't know that all the resources for JSwords.esm are in your plugin MyArmorMods.esp.

Edited August 15, 2013 by Sharlikran

[emieri00]

Oh, makes perfect sense! I specially didn't knew about the bsa part, so thanks for that too.

 

SO... If i merge an esp that requires an esm... But i leave the esm and its bsa [if any] alone, i should be fine?

 

Either way, thanks to the link matortheeternal directed me to, i'll be making multiple smaller mergings, which is still going to reduce my load order by a lot and things will be more organized. I just hope that everything goes well!

[Sharlikran]

SO... If i merge an esp that requires an esm... But i leave the esm and its bsa [if any] alone, i should be fine?

No I suggest to not merge ESM files at all. Because you would not want to have JSwords.esm active and MyArmorMods.esp at the same time. You would have duplicate weapons and your drive would be filled with duplicate files. Normally people don't have that many ESM files, so just merge your ESP files. Experiment one mod at a time. Do what they are doing in the link Mator gave you. Try one test it, if it crashes then you know you can't merge that mod. Post the results so others don't try it.

 

I "might" and it's a big "might" look at some of the files that aren't merging. If they aren't too script heavy and just need some fixing I might make a patch for them.

[emieri00]

I meant the esp related to jswords, not the esm.

 

Meaning, Jswords.esm won't be touched at all, but the jswordsdistributionbalanceplugin.ESP would be merged with other mods... maybe still keeping the esm as a master file?

 

Sorry if i was hard to understand.