Skree000 Posted December 23, 2008 Author Share Posted December 23, 2008 These are the proxies for my own custom versions, intercepted en-route to my gpu from the game. (technically not 'ripping' or hacking) These models are 99% bungie, I have only done minor tweaks. The textures are 95% bungie, I had to do some significant changes to rebuild their shaders in Max using only a rough knowledge of how they set them up using blend/color masks for team-color variations in the armor. Meshes are captured in 3dr format and the shaders must be completely rebuilt from scratch using nothing but ambiguous hex named DDS textures. (all in Max) After that its a matter of isolating the desired meshes and customizing them to overlap on top of the Fallout 3 base mesh so that it roughly conforms to the Fallout 3 skeleton, ready for rigging/skinning. Once I get time I'll be completely revamping (basically re-making) the entire mesh, bringing it 'up to par' with the Fallout 3 models, both in poly-count and level of detail. As with most games, Halo 2 uses 512x512 textures for main character armor, 256x256 or 256x128 texture for helmets, etc. Fallout however uses mostly 1024's for almost everything, so since I can't simply up-res the images, I'll be doing alot of customization before I'm done. Polygon wise, the pip-boy for example contains almost twice as many polygons as the entire mesh of the Master Chief from Halo 2... just to show you how far game models have come since then! I'll be modelling out the entire armor set in high poly by hand over top of these base meshes, then overlaying and re-topologizing a new base mesh that will conform to the high-poly detail, so that I can accurately Render-to-texture all the nifty little detailed parts (vents, wires, etc). essentially creating a new mesh from the old one, using it as reference. I take no credit for modelling these or creating the textures... yet. Once I'm done it will be pretty clear the difference between my meshes and the base meshes. The real question is, do I have time! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LHammonds Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 FYI - Fan-made Halo models were created for Oblivion here. I will add this thread to the Halo list in this topic. LHammonds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedyB64 Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 The ones for Oblivion are much lower poly. The textures are also fairly low-rez. To look good they will have to be remade to Fallout 3 standards. BTW Skree000 you are amazing! When you get this stuff working you should write a detailed step by step tutorial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo120 Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 I'm so used to forums like Max Console that i was expecting lots of raging PS3 fanboys to, well, be raging. God I love this forum :happy: On topic :PSounds awesome, just needs to look a bit more fallout-y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrometheusTS Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 These are the proxies for my own custom versions, intercepted en-route to my gpu from the game. (technically not 'ripping' or hacking) These models are 99% bungie, I have only done minor tweaks. The textures are 95% bungie, I had to do some significant changes to rebuild their shaders in Max using only a rough knowledge of how they set them up using blend/color masks for team-color variations in the armor. Meshes are captured in 3dr format and the shaders must be completely rebuilt from scratch using nothing but ambiguous hex named DDS textures. (all in Max) After that its a matter of isolating the desired meshes and customizing them to overlap on top of the Fallout 3 base mesh so that it roughly conforms to the Fallout 3 skeleton, ready for rigging/skinning. Once I get time I'll be completely revamping (basically re-making) the entire mesh, bringing it 'up to par' with the Fallout 3 models, both in poly-count and level of detail. As with most games, Halo 2 uses 512x512 textures for main character armor, 256x256 or 256x128 texture for helmets, etc. Fallout however uses mostly 1024's for almost everything, so since I can't simply up-res the images, I'll be doing alot of customization before I'm done. Polygon wise, the pip-boy for example contains almost twice as many polygons as the entire mesh of the Master Chief from Halo 2... just to show you how far game models have come since then! I'll be modelling out the entire armor set in high poly by hand over top of these base meshes, then overlaying and re-topologizing a new base mesh that will conform to the high-poly detail, so that I can accurately Render-to-texture all the nifty little detailed parts (vents, wires, etc). essentially creating a new mesh from the old one, using it as reference. I take no credit for modelling these or creating the textures... yet. Once I'm done it will be pretty clear the difference between my meshes and the base meshes. The real question is, do I have time! :) Yes I understand perfectly infact I was marveled how they looked so perfectly sticking to the game models ... what program will you be using to add more details on the high poly ? Zbrush? I didn't try it for maing more streight lines details just for suface bumping , but I am not expert at all with it ..... I want to try more in future tought .... I hope u can complete the meshes but I d like also if you could give different variations starting from its base , also different textures like may be camo urban textures would be cool , make something more unique than just halo I mean :) .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaloGunner117 Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 :ohmy: ...This blows my mind... I was actually trying to make my own but yours just ripped mine to tiny peices and and lit em on fire... I can't wait till you're done now... If I were a yellow ninja, this is what I would look like right now... :ninja: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karstinpk Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 omfg omfg I NEED IT NOW! i cant wait for u to finish. this it looks SOOO GOOD! :thanks: :thanks: :thanks: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skree000 Posted December 27, 2008 Author Share Posted December 27, 2008 lol thanks guys. Yeah just got back from an insane long shift at my second job, preceded by back to back xmas and holiday parties, once i get some free time ill start picking away at the models and see what i can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoshinDragon Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 You said in your first post that you'll be modifying the texture to consist of "Grime and Patch up" sections, would you be able to release an unedited version for lil' old me XDThanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karstinpk Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 You said in your first post that you'll be modifying the texture to consist of "Grime and Patch up" sections, would you be able to release an unedited version for lil' old me XDThanks in advance. me TOOO!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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