Dragonborn crashing to desktop

[NodTuGud]

OK - I think I solved my problem anyway - hopefully this might help someone else. A couple of mods I run are SMIM and SKYRIM HD. I went to the Static Mesh Improvement Mods page on NEXUS and got smart and "RTFM"ed it. I then uninstalled and re-installed all my graphics including the HD upgrades from STEAM and the fixes. After doing that I have played all day with no CTD and only minor freezes. Everything is running okay now. Prior to this I could get to the dock in Raven Rock but couldn't get out of town without crashing. same thing was try with fast Travel and sometimes quicksaves... CTD over and over. Before i did this It was playing "old school DOOM (the real one before modems were used to play games) it was take a few steps - quicksave -a few steps - quicksave.... I'm running everythin on ULTRA.. Windows 7 64 bit. no problemos

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dragonborn.esm

LorecraftESM.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

DaedricShieldHiResFix.esp

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

HighResTexturePackFix.esp

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Better Dynamic Snow.esp

SkyrimURWL.esp

ZFixed Lights RCRN.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp

83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp

AV1Dragon_Lords.esp

Birdsofskyrim.esp

EveryoneGetInside.esp

UnlimitedBookshelves.esp

Lorecraft - Vanilla.esp

NaturalClock.esp

Occupy Skyrim.esp

riverwood flora.esp

two_handed_rebalance.esp

DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp

IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp

WetandCold.esp

SkyUI.esp

iHUD.esp

Dragonbone Weapons.esp

Nicoroshi Creations.esp

RealFireArrows.esp

Remodeled Armor.esp

RingofKhajiit.esp

smeltingmod.esp

tbmchrysamere.esp

calyps-dragonpriestmasks.esp

DeadlyDragons.esp

DeadlyDragonsSpells.esp

DragonsDiversified.esp

DeadlyDragonsArmory.esp

Beautiful Riften.esp

beyond_skyrim.esp

Gleaming falls.esp

Milan's PAck.esp

N333-BetterWindhelm-V_03.esp

RiversideLodge.esp

Undercity.esp

Whiterun GREENized.esp

SkyrimCoinReplacer.esp

AchieveThat.esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Normal Weight).esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Normal Weight).esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (Ranked).esp

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp

Headtracking.esp

RichMerchants.esp

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp

UnreadBooksGlow.esp

Unique Region Names.esp

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

dd - realistic ragdoll force - realistic.esp

Field Alchemy.esp

betterwerewolf.esp

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

Dual Wield Parrying_ScriptDragon.esp

The Dance of Death.esp

AT - Loot Arrows +50%.esp

AT - Faster Arrows Improved +50%.esp

AT - Merchants Arrows +50%.esp

AT - Increased Progressive Damage (with Nord Hero Arrow) +50%.esp

AT - Recover +50% Arrows.esp

ESFAela.esp

Spousetocustomhome.esp

mjhKhajiitSpeak.esp

Height Adjusted Races with True Giants v4.esp

WATER.esp

Atlas Map Markers.esp

Atlas Blackreach.esp

follower map markers.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

Bashed Patch, 1.esp

Better Uthgerd.esp

dwemertextureenhancement.esp

Lydia_Plus.esp

KaceAutoloot.esp

mjhKhajiitSpeakMod - NPC Bartering.esp

AlchemistsHiddenValley.esp

This is list of the 94 MODS I'm running with no problems.

Edited February 10, 2013 by NodTuGud

[Wandik]

just one more bit about hair mods - i have extended my experiments to a point, where only vanilla skyrim + all DLCs wit all unofficial patches along with few character-related texture improvements, SkyUI and iHUD plus ONE ESM HAIR MOD (apachii or oblivion) are installed; this setup always go to crash on the very same helgen cutscene point. Disabling the hair esm solves that...

 

As i simply can't blame few widely used texture mods to be the reason, and the same with unofficial patches, it simply has to be the hair mod fault - or better to say, hair mod with official DLCs'? I have also tried the same setup without official DLCs, and surprisingly, it didn't crash in the obvious cutscene point, but when i tried to go to menu (by pressing ESC) just after the autosave when you jump down of the carriage.

 

my log looks like this: no rampaging script or such things...

 

 

[02/10/2013 - 08:38:50AM] Papyrus log opened (PC)

[02/10/2013 - 08:38:50AM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 500.000000ms)

[02/10/2013 - 08:38:50AM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)

[02/10/2013 - 08:39:17AM] [iHUDSkyUIConfigMenuScript <iHUDConfigQuest (05005E3D)>] INITIALIZED

[02/10/2013 - 08:39:17AM] [sKI_ConfigMenu <SKI_ConfigMenuInstance (04000820)>] INITIALIZED

[02/10/2013 - 08:39:17AM] [sKI_ConfigMenu <SKI_ConfigMenuInstance (04000820)>]: Updating to script version 2

[02/10/2013 - 08:39:23AM] PATCH 1.5 QUEST HAS STARTED

[02/10/2013 - 08:39:23AM] PATCH 1.6 QUEST HAS STARTED

[02/10/2013 - 08:39:23AM] [iHUDSkyUIConfigMenuScript <iHUDConfigQuest (05005E3D)>] INITIALIZED

[02/10/2013 - 08:39:23AM] Error: (00033482): cannot enable an object with an enable state parent.

stack:

[ (00033482)].lvlpredatorscript.Enable() - "<native>" Line ?

[ (00033482)].lvlpredatorscript.OnCellLoad() - "LvlPredatorScript.psc" Line 26

[02/10/2013 - 08:39:28AM] PATCH 1.4 QUEST HAS STARTED

[02/10/2013 - 08:39:28AM] Patch Script is working

[02/10/2013 - 08:41:33AM] AbWisp Effect Start on: None

[02/10/2013 - 08:41:33AM] Sending EVP to self and witchlight children ([Actor < (00108FD6)>])

[02/10/2013 - 08:41:33AM] Witchlights are the Following:

[02/10/2013 - 08:41:33AM] --------------------------------

[02/10/2013 - 08:41:33AM] [WitchlightActorScript < (00108FD3)>]

[02/10/2013 - 08:41:33AM] [WitchlightActorScript < (00108FD5)>]

[02/10/2013 - 08:41:33AM] [WitchlightActorScript < (00108FD4)>]

[02/10/2013 - 08:41:33AM] --------------------------------

[02/10/2013 - 08:43:22AM] VM is freezing...

[02/10/2013 - 08:43:22AM] VM is frozen

[02/10/2013 - 08:43:22AM] Saving game...

[02/10/2013 - 08:43:22AM] VM is thawing...

 

 

 

So, i really tend to blame the hair esm. Or we should blame helgen itself, as it was a source of many problems in the past as well?

 

Oh, and my saves are almost 6mb with all DLCs, 3.3mb without...

[ArrowMk84]

Have to say i am having the same issue with Dragonborn "DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript" - even at the very beginning of new game during Helgen cutscene just before the carriage reaches its destination - CTD... Sadly, papyrus log is full of that DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript errors along with tons of others DLC2 related script errors :(

 

What is strange, i was able to finish the cutscene only once, with super-vanilla skyrim+DLCs, now with unofficial patches and very few other mods i got CTD every time... mod list follows...

 

 

 

Active Mod Files:

• 00 Skyrim.esm

• 01 Update.esm

• 02 Dawnguard.esm

• 03 HearthFires.esm

• 04 Dragonborn.esm

• 05 ApachiiHair.esm

• 06 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 1.2.7]

• 07 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 1.1.4]

• 08 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]

• 09 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 1.0.0]

• 0A SkyUI.esp

• 0B iHUD.esp

• 0C Atlas Map Markers.esp

• 0D Atlas Blackreach.esp

• 0E Atlas Dawnguard.esp

• 0F Atlas Hearthfire.esp

• 10 Atlas Dragonborn.esp

• 11 RaceMenu.esp

 

 

 

so, i removed Dragonborn, believing it was the culprit, but surprisingly i got another CTD at the very same place. After that i started removing one mod after another, and guess what, my CTD was caused by Apachii hair mod... Sure, there are tons of lines about apachii hair causing trouble, but - this was the starting cutscene before my character was made, and there was no mod porting apachii hair to NPCs, so i felt really safe with that.

 

What i want to say - dragonborn may cause some trouble visible in papyrus log, but does not have to be the cause of CTDs every time...

 

EDIT: just if you think apachii hair is the sole cause of errors, i have tried another non-replacer hair mod - oblivion hair, which caused the same CTD as apachii's... just wonder why all the hair mods do this :(

 

Thank's for the tip!

 

I was also having problems with crashing in exterior cells. Basically after walking for a couple minutes I'd try to open a menu and the game would crash. The log was filled with "RentRoomScript.psc" and "DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript " errors, and after trying a few other things, I took your advice and removed the apachii esm, and it worked! I was able to keep another hair mod active (not oblivion hair), and it works fine. I still get occasional crashes in exterior cells (again it seems to be related to RentRoomScript.psc), but I'm able to play for far, far longer now.

[Darkangelmn]

I have informed the creator of the hair mod of the CTD. Hopefully he can shed some light on the subject.

[Zurath]

Have the same problem here with constant CTDs like every few minutes on open air. Also I must say that this seems to be happens only near big routes, where many NPCs travel. So this must be NPCs related. Also I've noticed records related to Dragon Cultist ambush in the logs just before almost every CTD. Can't even imagine what to do. I'm definitely don't want to start a new game. I've passed so many crap to build my character not to blow everything I got right now. There must be a way out of this s#*&#33;. At this point I hate Bethesda. Really.

 

Here is example of logs before crash:

 

 

[02/12/2013 - 04:24:31AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:25:00AM] Error: (000839C3): cannot enable an object with an enable state parent.

stack:

[ (000839C3)].lvlpredatorscript.Enable() - "<native>" Line ?

[ (000839C3)].lvlpredatorscript.OnCellLoad() - "LvlPredatorScript.psc" Line 26

[02/12/2013 - 04:25:10AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:25:16AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:25:18AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:25:21AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:25:24AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:25:29AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:25:37AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:25:40AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:25:42AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:25:45AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:25:59AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:26:01AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:26:02AM] [DLC2WECultistAmbushPlayerScript <alias Player on quest DLC2CultistAmbush (0403546D)>]OnLocationChange()[Location < (00019260)>]

[02/12/2013 - 04:26:07AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:26:10AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:26:10AM] [DLC2WECultistAmbushPlayerScript <alias Player on quest DLC2CultistAmbush (0403546D)>]OnLocationChange()None

[02/12/2013 - 04:26:23AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:26:26AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:26:33AM] [DLC2WECultistAmbushPlayerScript <alias Player on quest DLC2CultistAmbush (0403546D)>]OnLocationChange()[Location < (00018A46)>]

[02/12/2013 - 04:26:34AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:26:36AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:26:44AM] [DLC2WECultistAmbushPlayerScript <alias Player on quest DLC2CultistAmbush (0403546D)>]OnLocationChange()[Location < (00020006)>]

[02/12/2013 - 04:27:01AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:27:03AM] [DLC2WECultistAmbushPlayerScript <alias Player on quest DLC2CultistAmbush (0403546D)>]OnLocationChange()None

[Darkangelmn]

By the way the Creation Kit Wiki page says Skyrim.esm, DLC esm files or unofficial patches for the DLC or Skyrim should NEVER be cleaned with Tes5Edit.

 

http://www.creationkit.com/Skyrim_Dirty_Plugins_List

[Luke1987]

By the way the Creation Kit Wiki page says Skyrim.esm, DLC esm files or unofficial patches for the DLC or Skyrim should NEVER be cleaned with Tes5Edit.

 

http://www.creationkit.com/Skyrim_Dirty_Plugins_List

Wrong, actually it says that you SHOULD clean official DLCs esm's files + update.esm, but do NOT clean Skyrim.esm and unofficial patches. Please read it again carefully...

[Zurath]

I've made cleaning of Update.esm, Dawnguard.esm, Hearthfires.esm and Dragonborg.esm. Still CTD's at exactly the same conditions.

[Darkangelmn]

 

Luke1987, on 12 Feb 2013 - 04:19, said:

Darkangelmn, on 12 Feb 2013 - 03:39, said:

 

By the way the Creation Kit Wiki page says Skyrim.esm, DLC esm files or unofficial patches for the DLC or Skyrim should NEVER be cleaned with Tes5Edit.

 

http://www.creationkit.com/Skyrim_Dirty_Plugins_List

Wrong, actually it says that you SHOULD clean official DLCs esm's files + update.esm, but do NOT clean Skyrim.esm and unofficial patches. Please read it again carefully...

Strange, at night I saw that all of what I mentioned above shouldn't be cleaned and now that I read it again it says otherwise. I was probably really frustrated and tired at night.

 

I have spent more hours and days modding/solving crashes on Skyrim than actually playing the game ever since it was released by the gods. Sometimes I don't even enjoy the game anymore because mods turn rogue and crash the game, but Skyrim always comes back to haunt me (In a good way).

 

I just get so angry for a game so buggy to be released like that, I keep it all bottled up though. And then I get a breakdown and become the next Sheogorath. That's what happens, I go mad.

 

EDIT: ApachiiSkyHair isn't the one breaking anything. In fact running only Skyrim and the DLC alone causes these script loops which I mentioned before.

 

By the way installations of Skyrim on different computers sometimes behave differently, so if disabling a mod helped you, you're probably gonna have to play without it for the rest of the play-through but I could be wrong.

 

Here's something I wrote on Apachii's mod page:

 

"EDIT: Did some further testing and messed around the Creation Kit a bit and found out ApachiiSkyHair is in fact not the culprit, Bethesda's own DLC seems to have game breaking bugs and if more mods are loaded it appears that all that load results in CTD's.

So basically if Bethesda doesn't fix their own bugs, I am never buying one of their games ever again, I was a fan since Morrowind, sure the games had bugs but not of this magnitude, this is just ridiculous."

They just broke any possibility of me playing with other mods. I am at a loss for words.

EDIT 2: I assume I found the correct cause for the script errors. Apparently the cause can be either:

1. Corrupted Game Files

2. Edited ESM

(Damn I'm good)

But, verifying the game cache and re-downloading the game still isn't safe bet that the errors will disappear from vanilla or modded game. But it apparently solved these errors for me. I had to delete all my mods though,

EDIT 3: The errors seem to return, sadly. I guess all I can do is play and try to minimise CTD in some other ways, while I wait for the unforeseeable patch that won't come.

Edited February 13, 2013 by Darkangelmn

[iWolfgang]

[DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript

 

 

Have the same problem here with constant CTDs like every few minutes on open air. Also I must say that this seems to be happens only near big routes, where many NPCs travel. So this must be NPCs related. Also I've noticed records related to Dragon Cultist ambush in the logs just before almost every CTD. Can't even imagine what to do. I'm definitely don't want to start a new game. I've passed so many crap to build my character not to blow everything I got right now. There must be a way out of this s#*&#33;. At this point I hate Bethesda. Really.

 

Here is example of logs before crash:

 

 

[02/12/2013 - 04:24:31AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:25:00AM] Error: (000839C3): cannot enable an object with an enable state parent.

stack:

[ (000839C3)].lvlpredatorscript.Enable() - "<native>" Line ?

[ (000839C3)].lvlpredatorscript.OnCellLoad() - "LvlPredatorScript.psc" Line 26

[02/12/2013 - 04:25:10AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:25:16AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:25:18AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:25:21AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:25:24AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:25:29AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:25:37AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:25:40AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:25:42AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:25:45AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:25:59AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:26:01AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:26:02AM] [DLC2WECultistAmbushPlayerScript <alias Player on quest DLC2CultistAmbush (0403546D)>]OnLocationChange()[Location < (00019260)>]

[02/12/2013 - 04:26:07AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:26:10AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:26:10AM] [DLC2WECultistAmbushPlayerScript <alias Player on quest DLC2CultistAmbush (0403546D)>]OnLocationChange()None

[02/12/2013 - 04:26:23AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:26:26AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:26:33AM] [DLC2WECultistAmbushPlayerScript <alias Player on quest DLC2CultistAmbush (0403546D)>]OnLocationChange()[Location < (00018A46)>]

[02/12/2013 - 04:26:34AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:26:36AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:26:44AM] [DLC2WECultistAmbushPlayerScript <alias Player on quest DLC2CultistAmbush (0403546D)>]OnLocationChange()[Location < (00020006)>]

[02/12/2013 - 04:27:01AM] [DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript < (040177DB)>]OnPackageStart()

[02/12/2013 - 04:27:03AM] [DLC2WECultistAmbushPlayerScript <alias Player on quest DLC2CultistAmbush (0403546D)>]OnLocationChange()None

Experiencing the same issue, "[DLC2PillarBuilderActorScript". Pillar builder... Yep... build the pillar...

Tried a few things, I believe this shouldn't be a conflict with other mods because I only have USKPs installed.