Quite done with Skyrim

[Axeman]

Well, as others have mentioned having tons of mods can cause these sorts of issues, and just turning them off won't help in most cases as the save game stores the bugged out states of everything the mods broke. (Quest states, etc,.)

 

I try to keep my mod list short, I have maybe 20-30 must have mods, you can always disable some mods, and then use them on different playthroughs, etc,. (You definitely want the unofficial patches, despite what 'some friends' may have said, or whatever..)

 

One of the most important things, is learning to use Boss\Wrye properly. (Especially pay attention to what Boss says, it can point out mod conflicts, and tell you about patches for them, etc,.)

 

Having a lower end PC can hurt as well, Skyrim is really pushing your hardware, this can lead to crashing, etc,. (I have a decent setup, nothing godly, but, it's a quad core, 4gb of ram, and a good GPU.)

 

I honestly wouldn't trust a laptop too much, they're small, and they likely overheat easily under heavy loads, etc,. (Even big towers can get toasty, and they have much more breathing room on the inside, and way better fans, etc,.)

 

Personally, I really don't have any issues outside of the common bugs that pretty much everyone else has. (Giants knocking me\npcs into space, dead NPC's falling through the ground, companions acting strangely, etc,.)

 

Edit:

 

Btw, I'm running the latest version, with all the DLC, SKSE, plus all my mods.

 

Oh, the freezing issue can be caused by messing with the multithreading settings, in my experience, enabling them can cause this. (For example, the werewolf fatalities would completely freeze the game for a few seconds, then it would work fine again.)

 

I set it all back to default and left those settings alone, and it's been fine since

Edited February 9, 2013 by Axeman

[Alithinos]

Aside from the bugs that the dlc may or not have (haven't played it yet) it seems there is yet another,more serious problem in your situation.

Did you noticed what the yellow letters and numbers say on the screenshots you posted ? Your frame rate is LESS than 30FPS and that by itself means that your game must be lagging,in slow motion and unresponsive because your system is trying very hard to play the game. Other than that,at some of your screenshots the temp of your graphics card is 91c!!! That's too much. It's very close to the temp where water starts to boil. You risk having your graphics card melt,and things like weird colors,flying rectangles on the screen,or even crashes may occur because of the high temp. In the worst case scenario you might even burn your f****ing laptop and see smoke coming out of it.

 

 

Did you overclocked any parts of your computer ?

Try to cool the laptop when you play. There are some laptop cooler solutions and you might have to get one.

Also,lower the graphics settings. If your average frame rate is between 24 and 29 fps the game shouldn't be enjoyable at all to you,remove the HD texture packs and lower graphics settings.

I have a more powerful graphics card than you,and even I don't have so many mods.

Edited February 9, 2013 by Alithinos

[seth2012]

My freezes are quite random, happens anytime anywhere but regularly 2-3 mins after I start playing the game. Edited February 9, 2013 by seth2012

[AnimeOtaku102]

Sounds like you have orphaned scripts bloating up your game. Long loading times, terrible FPS, pauses, and bloated save files are all symptoms of scripts from mods not terminating because something about the mod changed (updated, uninstalled, Bethesda update/DLC kicked in its face, etc.) and it can't tell said scripts to stop running. Turning mods off and loading the same save won't help because said scripts are now a part of your save file and will always load with your save, to test it properly you need to disable all mods, start a new game, and see if the same problems occur when you bring that character to Dragonborn (use the console to cheat up that character's skills if you want).

 

If the problems persist it's something wrong with Dragonborn, if they don't then it's something that broke between Dragonborn and your mods.

[Bloodinfested]

Wow didn’t realize the fps and temp on the SS but as alithinos pointed out start turning down some settings ideally you want at least low 30's fps can start by lowering the resolution in your case the lowest setting turning off antialiasing and FXAA you may also have to ini adjust lower your shadows. See if you can get 30 - 40 fps consistently half of your problems maybe from you over pushing your hardware

[seth2012]

Aside from the bugs that the dlc may or not have (haven't played it yet) it seems there is yet another,more serious problem in your situation.

Did you noticed what the yellow letters and numbers say on the screenshots you posted ? Your frame rate is LESS than 30FPS and that by itself means that your game must be lagging,in slow motion and unresponsive because your system is trying very hard to play the game. Other than that,at some of your screenshots the temp of your graphics card is 91c!!! That's too much. It's very close to the temp where water starts to boil. You risk having your graphics card melt,and things like weird colors,flying rectangles on the screen,or even crashes may occur because of the high temp. In the worst case scenario you might even burn your f****ing laptop and see smoke coming out of it.

 

 

Did you overclocked any parts of your computer ?

Try to cool the laptop when you play. There are some laptop cooler solutions and you might have to get one.

Also,lower the graphics settings. If your average frame rate is between 24 and 29 fps the game shouldn't be enjoyable at all to you,remove the HD texture packs and lower graphics settings.

I have a more powerful graphics card than you,and even I don't have so many mods.

 

Alithinos good observation I gotta say first and thanks for the advices. Unfortunately in my experience the temp of my graphics card is more likely to be normal, all 4820TG users with HD5650 graphics cards report such high temperatures, at first seeing that temp I panicked myself too but it works in such high temps for most games and not cause any problems, for example with the game Sleeping Dogs it goes up to 105-107C and the game runs smoothly. I periodically apply thermal compound and that doesn't change a thing either, without games the temp is around 50-60C and in games differs between 80-110C. The framerate drop came also with the Dragonborn DLC before wasn't extremely high but I'd get over 30 FPS but I'll remove the High Res Textures and see if that helps.

 

I don't have any overclocked parts if I overclocked my GPU I'd probably be cooking on it. Though what annoys me is before Dragonborn I had much more mods that this and had no such problems. I'll see what I can do using your advices to get solid performance though thanks.

 

 

Sounds like you have orphaned scripts bloating up your game. Long loading times, terrible FPS, pauses, and bloated save files are all symptoms of scripts from mods not terminating because something about the mod changed (updated, uninstalled, Bethesda update/DLC kicked in its face, etc.) and it can't tell said scripts to stop running. Turning mods off and loading the same save won't help because said scripts are now a part of your save file and will always load with your save, to test it properly you need to disable all mods, start a new game, and see if the same problems occur when you bring that character to Dragonborn (use the console to cheat up that character's skills if you want).

 

If the problems persist it's something wrong with Dragonborn, if they don't then it's something that broke between Dragonborn and your mods.

 

The freezing happens with a new game too, the interesting part is all over Tamriel(Skyrim and Solstheim I mean) the game freezes for a few secs periodically but only in Slstheim it freezes completely after a while. Also out of curiousity, isn't there a way to get rid of the scripts with an old save? Needing to start a new game after 60-70 levels everytime could be annoying.

 

 

Wow didn’t realize the fps and temp on the SS but as alithinos pointed out start turning down some settings ideally you want at least low 30's fps can start by lowering the resolution in your case the lowest setting turning off antialiasing and FXAA you may also have to ini adjust lower your shadows. See if you can get 30 - 40 fps consistently half of your problems maybe from you over pushing your hardware

 

As I explained to Alithinos too my temps are more likely to be normal for my GPU unfortunately. I tried the lowest settings, turned off AA and FXAA etc and still get freezes. Is there a good tutorial or something like that for the .ini shadow tweaking or .ini tweaking in general? I tried to stay away from the ini files not to mess things up so I'm not extremely knowledgeable about it.

[AnimeOtaku102]

 

The freezing happens with a new game too, the interesting part is all over Tamriel(Skyrim and Solstheim I mean) the game freezes for a few secs periodically but only in Slstheim it freezes completely after a while. Also out of curiousity, isn't there a way to get rid of the scripts with an old save? Needing to start a new game after 60-70 levels everytime could be annoying.

Only with saves made before you installed mods with the offending scripts. I believe there are supposed to be ways to try and clean your saves of scripts, but I never looked them up since I've just avoided mods that try to introduce scripts (although Dynovision is an exception, since you can now use MCM to turn off the blur script before removing the mod).

 

Only thing I can suggest now is the tedious process of disabling all your mods, resetting your .ini to default (make a backup first, of course), then enable your mods one by one and using a new character to test until you find a likely suspect.

 

Unless you suffer the freezes with a completely unmodded new game, in which case you have my condolences :(

[TheAtomicCafe]

I am 99% sure all if these issues with Dragonborn are Bethesda....put out a really buggy product. Why?

Because I just installed Skyrim and all DLC vanilla on a completely new computer....same issues as on my computer with over 30 mods....

To be blunt....Dragonborn is completely bugged....it's nit even as stable as a public beta!

[TheAtomicCafe]

Sorry for the misspellings typing on my phone...

[blitzen]

I am 99% sure all if these issues with Dragonborn are Bethesda....put out a really buggy product. Why?

Because I just installed Skyrim and all DLC vanilla on a completely new computer....same issues as on my computer with over 30 mods....

To be blunt....Dragonborn is completely bugged....it's nit even as stable as a public beta!

 

Did you also start a brand new game? Or did you use old saves from the other computer? I have 250+ mods and no significant bugs yet, but I made new characters. Maybe that's the difference. I wonder if they test with fresh characters, or they keep some old ones around to make sure that old saves don't have more problems? I'm running with DG too, and all the unofficial patches, including UDBP. That may also make a difference, even though UDBP barely has anything in it at this point. What specific bugs do you have? A number of people complain it's buggy, but don't mention anything specific. There has to be something causing this, since a some people complain about bugs, while others don't have any problems.

Edited February 10, 2013 by blitzen