Any Weapon Mod Causes constant CTDs. Help!

[BigSpoonle]

Hey forum,

So I have a consistent problem. Whenever I install any weapon mod that injects itself into level lists, even if it's only the one mod, I have constant crashes to desktop that make playing FO4 only possible in short bursts. When no weapon mods are installed the game preforms fantastically I must comment the talented work of the mod authors who've made this game actually playable. Anyway recently I tried installing the Modern Weapon Replacers -All-in-One by Cyanide4Suicide which I hoped would make this problem less intrusive, but a few hours into my playthrough on a fresh install I was a few miles from sanctuary and I began getting CTDs every few minutes.

 

Since I first started modding fallout 4 My proficiency and understanding of how mods implement themselves has risen dramatically, so I booted up FO4Edit and ran a filter for conflicts and the entire list of esps was red and yellow. No surprise there I have over 250 mods active (mods not esps). Although when I checked these conflicts most had likely existed before I ever downloaded the weapon mods and again the game was highly stable, and almost never CTDing. The only constant between when the game is and is not stable is when a weapon mod is installed.

 

I was wondering if anyone has had previous experience with a similar issue and maybe had a fix. Weapons are the some of the most game effecting mods and it's a shame that they are effectively locked off.

Edited September 14, 2020 by BigSpoonle

[HadToRegister]

Hey forum,

So I have a consistent problem. Whenever I install any weapon mod that injects itself into level lists, even if it's only the one mod, I have constant crashes to desktop that make playing FO4 only possible in short bursts. When no weapon mods are installed the game preforms fantastically I must comment the talented work of the mod authors who've made this game actually playable. Anyway recently I tried installing the Modern Weapon Replacers -All-in-One by Cyanide4Suicide which I hoped would make this problem less intrusive, but a few hours into my playthrough on a fresh install I was a few miles from sanctuary and I began getting CTDs every few minutes.

 

Since I first started modding fallout 4 My proficiency and understanding of how mods implement themselves has risen dramatically, so I booted up FO4Edit and ran a filter for conflicts and the entire list of esps was red and yellow. No surprise there I have over 250 mods active (mods not esps). Although when I checked these conflicts most had likely existed before I ever downloaded the weapon mods and again the game was highly stable, and almost never CTDing. The only constant between when the game is and is not stable is when a weapon mod is installed.

 

I was wondering if anyone has had previous experience with a similar issue and maybe had a fix. Weapons are the some of the most game effecting mods and it's a shame that they are effectively locked off.

 

 

What are you using for a mod manager?

[BigSpoonle]

Hey forum,

So I have a consistent problem. Whenever I install any weapon mod that injects itself into level lists, even if it's only the one mod, I have constant crashes to desktop that make playing FO4 only possible in short bursts. When no weapon mods are installed the game preforms fantastically I must comment the talented work of the mod authors who've made this game actually playable. Anyway recently I tried installing the Modern Weapon Replacers -All-in-One by Cyanide4Suicide which I hoped would make this problem less intrusive, but a few hours into my playthrough on a fresh install I was a few miles from sanctuary and I began getting CTDs every few minutes.

 

Since I first started modding fallout 4 My proficiency and understanding of how mods implement themselves has risen dramatically, so I booted up FO4Edit and ran a filter for conflicts and the entire list of esps was red and yellow. No surprise there I have over 250 mods active (mods not esps). Although when I checked these conflicts most had likely existed before I ever downloaded the weapon mods and again the game was highly stable, and almost never CTDing. The only constant between when the game is and is not stable is when a weapon mod is installed.

 

I was wondering if anyone has had previous experience with a similar issue and maybe had a fix. Weapons are the some of the most game effecting mods and it's a shame that they are effectively locked off.

Mod Organizer 2

[HadToRegister]

 

Mod Organizer 2

 

 

 

If EVERYTHING is Red in every mod, then you have your load order set up very badly.

 

Have you tried using LOOT?

[BigSpoonle]

Oh yeah I've used loot and I went through most of the conflicts and it's just Vis-g renaming stuff. It does make finding actual conflicts difficult.

[BigSpoonle]

So here's my load order. The heavy hitters are Unofficial Falllout 4 Patch, AWKRC, Armorsmith Extended, Crafting Framework, Free Downgrades, Craftable Armor Size, Vis-G, Lost Vis-G Patch, and of course The mods for Modern Weapon Replacer.

Also I removed Institute Weapons 1st Person Reposition.

0 0 Fallout4.esm

1 1 DLCRobot.esm

2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm

3 3 DLCCoast.esm

4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm

5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm

6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm

254 FE 0 ccacxfo4001-vsuit.esl

7 7 Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp

8 8 ArmorKeywords.esm

254 FE 1 BetterCoastalWaves.esl

9 9 XDI.esm

254 FE 2 FaceLight.esl

254 FE 3 CROSS_VertibirdFlightsuit.esl

10 a HUDFramework.esm

254 FE 4 KillTips_by_tooun.esl

254 FE 5 ImmersiveDogmeat.esl

11 b Homemaker.esm

254 FE 6 ConfigurableHotkeys.esl

12 c PiperCaitCurieDialogueOverhaul.esp

13 d ENBLightsHDRPatch.esp

14 e Faded Glory - Soundtrack Expansion.esp

15 f NAC.esp

16 10 3dscopes-replacer.esp

17 11 free_downgrades.esp

18 12 VIS-G Item Sorting.esp

19 13 AnimChemRedux.esp

254 FE 7 GatlingLaserAmmoImprovement.esp

20 14 armorkeywordsGatlingLaserAmmoMerged.esp

21 15 CriticalHitsOutsideofVATS.esp

22 16 Be Exceptional.esp

CherchezAndABachelor.esp

23 17 CustomCamera.esp

24 18 dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp

25 19 Dogmeat's Backpack.esp

26 1a Eli_PrudyVaultJumpsuit.esp

27 1b EveryonesBestFriend.esp

28 1c TrueGrass.esp

254 FE 8 Insignificant Object Remover.esp

29 1d LevelCap.esp

30 1e LongerPowerLinesInf.esp

31 1f LooksMirror.esp

254 FE 9 LOST Anim Chems Patch.esp

32 20 Scavver's Backpacks.esp

254 FE a LOST Scavver's Backpack Patch.esp

254 FE b LOST SCDO Patch.esp

254 FE c LOST See Through Scopes REPLACER Patch.esp

254 FE d Minigun Balance.esp

254 FE e NoPickpocketChanceCap.esp

33 21 PlayerVoiceFrequencySlider.esp

34 22 Project Reality Footsteps FO4.esp

254 FE f Rusty Face Fix.esp

35 23 StartMeUpWorkaround.esp

36 24 Unlimited SPECIAL.esp

254 FE 10 WaitAnywhere.esp

37 25 WheelMenu.esp

254 FE 11 LOST Homemaker Patch.esp

38 26 Keep Radiants In Commonwealth.esp

39 27 AQUILA.esp

40 28 InstitWeapPosit.esp

41 29 MTs255.esp

42 2a Tec-9.esp

43 2b EG7.esp

44 2c BerettaM9FS.esp

45 2d F4NVServiceRifleRedux.esp

46 2e CheatTerminal.esp

254 FE 12 UnownedTrash.esp

47 2f GS Benelli M3S90.esp

254 FE 13 CROSS_MojaveManhunter.esp

48 30 Rangergearnew.esp

49 31 BullpupBozar.esp

50 32 QuickTrade.esp

51 33 HuntingShotgun.esp

52 34 Studio.esp

53 35 ChineseStealthSuit.esp

254 FE 14 LOST Chinese Sealth Patch.esp

254 FE 15 Companion Infinite Ammo.esp

54 36 Craftable Armor Size - Fix Material Requirements.esp

55 37 Craftable Armor Size.esp

254 FE 16 Dynamic Music Overhaul.esp

56 38 surgifix.esp

57 39 EasyHacking.esp

254 FE 17 CROSS_CourserStrigidae.esp

254 FE 18 LOST Courser Strigidae Patch.esp

254 FE 19 FactionPinups.esp

58 3a free_downgrades_DLCCoast.esp

59 3b free_downgrades_DLCNuka.esp

60 3c PA-Quick Animations.esp

254 FE 1a RichMerchantsLessCaps.esp

61 3d Swinging Meat Bags.esp

62 3e The Eyes Of Beauty.esp

254 FE 1b UnarmedPowerArmor_AWKCR.esp

254 FE 1c UTJazzRadio.esp

63 3f Weapon Rack Extended.esp

254 FE 1d AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp

254 FE 1e Move (Get Out the Way).esp

254 FE 1f Glowing Animals Emit Light.esp

64 40 Adjustable UI Volume Sliders.esp

65 41 Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp

254 FE 20 Brighter Wasteland Workshop Lights.esp

254 FE 21 Realistic Death Physics - ALL DLC.esp

66 42 PipBoyShadows.esp

254 FE 22 Classic VATS.esp

254 FE 23 Just Another VATS Sound Mod.esp

254 FE 24 NoRadscorpionTunneling.esp

254 FE 25 Vapor-Trails.esp

67 43 Campsite.esp

68 44 PIP-Pad.esp

69 45 ZellaHairDye.esp

254 FE 26 Below-the-belt-only-Groin.esp

254 FE 27 RealWorldDamages.esp

254 FE 28 Classic Speech Checks.esp

70 46 InfiniteFusionCore.esp

254 FE 29 LooksMenu.esp

71 47 RealWorldDamagesHealthSystem.esp

72 48 HoloTime_2.esp

73 49 Immersive HUD.esp

254 FE 2a LOST Campsite Patch.esp

254 FE 2b LOST Immersive HUD Patch.esp

254 FE 2c LOST Manhunter Patch.esp

74 4a CompanionStatus.esp

254 FE 2d BetterGenerators.esp

75 4b VIS - Dogmeat's Backpack.esp

254 FE 2e Jump Grunt.esp

254 FE 2f Perk Magazine Material Fix.esp

76 4c AutomatronSecuritron.esp

254 FE 30 BalconySupports.esp

254 FE 31 BetterShackBridges.esp

254 FE 32 BetterJunkFences.esp

77 4d BuildYourOwnVault.esp

254 FE 33 LOST - AWKCR VIS-G Tweaks.esp

78 4e CraftingFramework.esp

254 FE 34 CraftingFramework_LME.esp

254 FE 35 CraftingFrameworkAWKCR2.esp

79 4f McMillanCS5.esp

80 50 Quad_Fusillade.esp

81 51 KrissVector.esp

82 52 PowerArmorHUD.esp

83 53 def_w_pa2.esp

84 54 MP-412.esp

85 55 3dscopes-replacer-bullpupbozar.esp

86 56 3dscopes-replacer-servicerifle.esp

254 FE 36 LOST Aquila Patch.esp

254 FE 37 LOST Beretta M9-FS Patch.esp

254 FE 38 LOST Bozar Patch.esp

254 FE 39 LOST Hunting Shotgun Patch.esp

254 FE 3a LOST Rheinmetall Patch.esp

254 FE 3b LOST Service Rifle Patch.esp

254 FE 3c LOST Vector Patch.esp

254 FE 3d SKM_NoLoadingScreens.esp

87 57 RealHDFace Tex.esp

88 58 NAC-FH.esp

89 59 NAC-NW.esp

254 FE 3e LOST Cheat Terminal Patch.esp

90 5a Armorsmith Extended.esp

91 5b AlexSleevePatcher.esp

92 5c EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

93 5d Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp

94 5e StartMeUp.esp

254 FE 3f LOST StartMeUp Patch.esp

95 5f lastmanstanding.esp

[BigSpoonle]

Okay so some big changes I made:
I got rid of AWKRC, VIS-G, Armorsmith Extended, Lost Patch, and craftable armor size and replaced them with ACO and Any armor any Clothing. Hopefully these changes will solve the issue.