Torch Drop FPS

[MotokoKHammond]

  On 10/10/2020 at 2:23 PM, Striker879 said:

I believe "can cast shadows" is another tick box option.

I can not find an option similar to that I am afraid.

[KatsAwful]

Oh wait I'm dumb, there is in fact an ini setting for torches. Oblivion is confusing. I constantly confuse settings like this with other Bethesda games

Set bEquippedTorchesCastShadows=0 in Oblivion.ini under [Display]

[MotokoKHammond]

  On 10/10/2020 at 2:56 PM, KatsAwful said:

Oh wait I'm dumb, there is in fact an ini setting for torches. Oblivion is confusing. I constantly confuse settings like this with other Bethesda games

 

Set bEquippedTorchesCastShadows=0 in Oblivion.ini under [Display]

Its already set to off. It sadly did nothing.

 

Edited October 10, 2020 by MotokoKHammond

[Striker879]

I guess torches are slightly different than candles then ... I've done plenty with candles, diddly with torches.

 

- Edit - What happens if you drop the light radius down from 768? I would try a big drop as a test ... say 256 or even 128.

 

- Edit 2 - Probably not at the root of your problem ... I have the radius upped to 1152 in my MyTweaks.esp and I'm not experiencing what you are. From what I can see in TES4Edit all the other settings are same as yours (with exception that I still have dynamic and flicker set).

 

- Edit 3 - I see in TES4Edit that Oblivion.esm has the Falloff Exponent set at 0.0000 whereas you (and my MyTweaks.esp) have it set to 1.0000 ... maybe give that a test.

[MotokoKHammond]

  On 10/10/2020 at 3:12 PM, Striker879 said:

I guess torches are slightly different than candles then ... I've done plenty with candles, diddly with torches.

 

- Edit - What happens if you drop the light radius down from 768? I would try a big drop as a test ... say 256 or even 128.

 

- Edit 2 - Probably not at the root of your problem ... I have the radius upped to 1152 in my MyTweaks.esp and I'm not experiencing what you are. From what I can see in TES4Edit all the other settings are same as yours (with exception that I still have dynamic and flicker set).

Well here is a list of my active mods. Since I was testing this issue on a fresh install I do not have too much installed. As far as textures go I don't have many installed ether, nothing beyond 1k resolution or with Paralaxing ether as far as I am aware. Untill I find some form of fix for this issue though, my Oblivion modded playthrough will sit at a unplayable standstill. Especially since I am working on a more atmospheric horror enspired playthrough, having acess to a lantern or torch in the dark is kind of important. If I did not care about such atmosphere I would just use a Night Eye spell and have done.

 

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00 Oblivion.esm

01 Open Cities Resources.esm [Version 4.1.7]

02 Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 6.0.13]

03 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.5.6b]

++ Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

04 DLCShiveringIsles.esp

05 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.9a]

06 Better Cities .esp [Version 6.0.10]

07 DLCHorseArmor.esp

08 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]

09 DLCOrrery.esp

0A DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7]

0B DLCVileLair.esp

0C DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.11]

0D DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

0E DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7]

0F DLCSpellTomes.esp

++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]

10 DLCThievesDen.esp

11 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.15]

12 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.14]

13 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

14 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.12]

15 DLCFrostcrag.esp

16 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10]

17 Knights.esp

18 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.8]

19 HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 5.3.2]

1A GBRsRAMpurge.esp

1B ShowRaceMenu.esp

1C Dynamic Map.esp [Version 2.1.1]

1D Enhanced Hotkeys.esp [Version 2.3.1]

1E P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00]

1F LootMenu.esp

20 Quest Log Manager.esp [Version 1.3.2]

21 Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.2.0]

22 Basic Primary Needs.esp [Version 6.3]

23 Basic Personal Hygiene.esp [Version 3.0]

24 Better Dungeons.esp

25 FlexAip.esp

++ 00 Realistic Player Speech.esp

26 CoO1.esp

27 Magic Visuals Overhaul.esp

++ _No_ persistant enchantment glow fix-1843.esp

++ ND_LongerSummons_x3.esp

28 Morrowind_Style_Bound_Equipment_Mechanics_v1.4_BA.esp

29 wands.esp

2A lSkillBasedHarvestChance.esp [Version 1.0]

2B Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

2C Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp [Version 6.0.10]

2D MidasSpells.esp

2E Camping.esp

2F Enhanced Vegetation [150%].esp

++ lLet there be Flowers.esp [Version 1.0]

30 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]

++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]

++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]

++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]

31 Open Cities Reborn.esp [Version 1.1.10]

32 Better Cities - Open Cities Reborn.esp [Version 6.0.10]

33 Better Cities - IC Imperial Isle.esp [Version 6.0.10]

34 Better Imperial City.esp [Version 6.0.12]

35 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

36 UVIII.esp

37 Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp [Version 4.9.4.2]

38 No Dynamic Torch.esp

Edited October 10, 2020 by MotokoKHammond

[KatsAwful]

Post the [Display] section from your Oblivion.ini, it might be a shadows setting

[Striker879]

I'm not familiar with whatever mod your wands.esp may come from but perhaps check it in TES4Edit and see if it touches torches in any way.

[MotokoKHammond]

  On 10/10/2020 at 3:31 PM, Striker879 said:

I'm not familiar with whatever mod your wands.esp may come from but perhaps check it in TES4Edit and see if it touches torches in any way.

This mod, it should not have any issues with lighting or torches, it's essentially just a weapon mod.

https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/41398/

  On 10/10/2020 at 3:28 PM, KatsAwful said:

Post the [Display] section from your Oblivion.ini, it might be a shadows setting

Here you go, if you find anything let me know ^_^

 

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[Display]

uVideoDeviceIdentifierPart1=3619102434

uVideoDeviceIdentifierPart2=298787999

uVideoDeviceIdentifierPart3=783162971

uVideoDeviceIdentifierPart4=903332436

fDecalLifetime=10.0000

bEquippedTorchesCastShadows=0

bReportBadTangentSpace=0

bStaticMenuBackground=1

bForcePow2Textures=0

bForce1XShaders=0

bHighQuality20Lighting=0

bAllow20HairShader=1

bAllowScreenShot=0

iMultiSample=0

bDoTallGrassEffect=1

bForceMultiPass=1

bDoTexturePass=1

bDoSpecularPass=1

bDoDiffusePass=1

bDoAmbientPass=1

bDoCanopyShadowPass=1

bDrawShadows=0

bUseRefractionShader=1

bUse Shaders=1

iNPatchNOrder=0

iNPatchPOrder=0

iNPatches=0

iLocation Y=0

iLocation X=0

bFull Screen=0

iSize W=1920

iSize H=1080

iAdapter=0

iScreenShotIndex=0

SScreenShotBaseName=ScreenShot

iAutoViewMinDistance=2000

iAutoViewHiFrameRate=40

iAutoViewLowFrameRate=20

bAutoViewDistance=0

fDefaultFOV=75.0000

fNearDistance=10.0000

fFarDistance=10000.0000

iDebugTextLeftRightOffset=10

iDebugTextTopBottomOffset=10

bShowMenuTextureUse=1

iDebugText=2

bLocalMapShader=0

bDoImageSpaceEffects=1

fShadowLOD2=400.0000

fShadowLOD1=200.0000

fLightLOD2=3000.0000

fLightLOD1=2000.0000

fSpecularLOD2=800.0000

fSpecularLOD1=500.0000

fEnvMapLOD2=800.0000

fEnvMapLOD1=500.0000

fEyeEnvMapLOD2=190.0000

fEyeEnvMapLOD1=130.0000

iPresentInterval=1

iShadowFilter=0

iActorShadowCountExt=3

iActorShadowCountInt=3

bActorSelfShadowing=0

bShadowsOnGrass=0

bDynamicWindowReflections=1

iTexMipMapSkip=0

fGrassStartFadeDistance=6000.0

fGrassEndDistance=7000.0

bDecalsOnSkinnedGeometry=1

bFullBrightLighting=0

iMaxLandscapeTextures=0

bLODPopActors=0

bLODPopItems=0

bLODPopObjects=0

fSpecualrStartMax=1000.0000

fSpecularStartMin=0.0000

iActorShadowIntMax=10

iActorShadowIntMin=0

iActorShadowExtMax=10

iActorShadowExtMin=0

fGammaMax=0.6000

fGammaMin=1.4000

iMaxDecalsPerFrame=10

bLandscapeBlend=1

fShadowFadeTime=1.0000

fGamma=1.0000

bAllowPartialPrecision=1

iShadowMapResolution=256

bAllow30Shaders=0

iTexMipMapMinimum=0

bDoStaticAndArchShadows=0

bDoActorShadows=0

bIgnoreResolutionCheck=0

fNoLODFarDistancePct=1.0000

fNoLODFarDistanceMax=10240.0000

fNoLODFarDistanceMin=1700.0000

Edited October 10, 2020 by MotokoKHammond

[Striker879]

What happens with iActorShadowCountExt=1 (my own is set to that)?

[MotokoKHammond]

  On 10/10/2020 at 3:45 PM, Striker879 said:

What happens with iActorShadowCountExt=1 (my own is set to that)?

When I do that my overall FPS increases in the scene from the original screenshots from 35 to 38, BUT when I pull my Torch out I still drop down to 15 FPS as can be seen here.

 

Edited October 10, 2020 by MotokoKHammond