nino791 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 (edited) Hi all,I wanted some information, from anyone who wanted to help me, on my load order: Fallout3.esmAnchorage.esmThePitt.esmBrokenSteel.esmPointLookout.esmZeta.esmiHUD.esmCRAFT.esmCALIBR.esmStreetLights.esmProject Beauty.esmArefuExpandedByAzar.esmAWorldOfPainFO3.esmAlton, IL.esmEVE.esmFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esmMart's Mutant Mod.esmFO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.espDCInteriors_ComboEdition.esmRH_IRONSIGHTS.esmEVE - RH Ironsights Patch.espThe Coalition.esm--------------------------------ESM-------------------------------DarNifiedUIF3.espProject Beauty- Broken Steel.espProject Beauty- Point Lookout.espRH_IronSights_RemoveReticule.espRH_IronSights_Vanilla_NewWeapons.espPCB.espArefuExpandedByAzar-Radio.espUPP - Experience Perks.espUPP - Quest Perks.espShadows and Dust - Southwest DC - Public.espRZW_SlotMachine.espArefuExpandedByAzar-FixMisc.espArefuExpandedByAzar-FixOptRemOld.espArefuExpandedByAzar-FixOptAddNew.espArefuExpandedByAzar-FixEyes.espBig Town Overhaul [GangStore].espAltonAddon.espaltonintegratenightvision.espaltonintegratepowerarmorweight.espAlton Clifftop Shack.espAlton-il-ITA Version.espMoriarty's Saloon Fen chui Mod.espNewMall.espShadows and Dust - Volume 2.espShadows and Dust - Volume 2 RH Compatible.espTrentonTowers.espSmall Megaton Shack v1.0.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).espRH_FWE_Bridge.espWeaponModKits.espWeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.espWeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.espWeaponModKits - ThePitt.espWeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.espWeaponModKits - PointLookout.espWeaponModKits - Zeta.espRH_WMK_Bridge.espBBBackpacks-v1-1.espImperfection.espImperfection - Trolls.espImperfection - Broken Steel.espImperfection - PL Giants.espMart's Mutant Mod.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.espMart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.espMart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.espMart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.espMart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.espMart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main.espdD-More Gore-BrokenSteel.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - More Gore.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - More Gore Zeta.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - More Gore The Pitt.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - More Gore PointLookout.espdD-Reduced Ragdoll Force.espdD-Reduced Dismember Force.espdD-Smaller Wounds.espdD-Smaller Spatters Realistic.espdD-Full Screen Blood Instant Remove.espFO3_WRP.espBornagain Outcast T-45d Texture Patch.espBasic and Advanced Lockpick Sets and Electronic Hacking Kitd-v1-18654.espF3ProjectRealityMkI.espFallout Remastered.espFallout Remastered - Project Beauty.espFallout Remastered - FWE.espFallout Remastered - EVE V One (Paradox Ignition Merge).espFallout Remastered - FWE + RH Ironsights.espFallout Remastered - Mart's Mutants Mod.espBlackened FWE + MMM + EVE + Project Beauty.espMerge_17.esp after some test i have still freeze in a totally random situation and CTD sometimes when I try to save, maybe something wrong in the order of mods. I already made the fix for multicore processors, disabled HDR in game, disable autosave, made fix radio stuttering, allow large addess for 32bit my spec. Seven ultimate 32-bit, Athlon II x3 450 3200, Ram 4 giga corsair XMS and gtx 460 EVGA 1 Giga vram with newest driver. Thx in advance for who will want to help me :yes:, sorry for my bad english i am italian guy, ciao ciao!!!! update: new load order in the last post!!!!! Edited April 3, 2013 by nino791 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M48A5 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Nino,Hello. First move Streetlights.esm so that it is after the Pitt and before Broken Steel. Your best bet is to download and install B.O.S.S. to sort your load order. Make sure you read the entire report after sorting if finished and make any changes. http://fallout3.nexusmods.com/mods/10193 When you make your merged patch, do you check and correct any conflicts that need to be corrected? Also, did you change the FALLOUT.INI that is located in the Users\"name"\Documents\MyGames\Fallout3. This is the same location where your SAVES are located.Do you have your game installed in a place other than Program Files or have your UAC disabled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nino791 Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 Hi M48A5,thx for your reply. I always run boss in my test for load order and the list posted is a result of boss sort and manual order of not recognized plugin, sorry my bad in description, yes i modify the .INI file and UAC is disabled. for the place of installation my fo3 is steam copy i need to try if is possible to change path outside steam directory. for the boss log it show my many things for example: BBBackpacks-v1-1.esp Active* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Stats}} (what it means?) thx for your time. Nino791 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M48A5 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 "* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Stats}} (what it means?)" This is just a suggestion if you are using wryebash. Really doesn't mean anything otherwise. The only thing I know to do with the load order is to move Streetlights.esm as I stated in my previous post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRampage Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.espEVE - RH Ironsights Patch.espThese 2 plugins appear to be right in the middle of your .esm files. Remove them from their current position and put them amongst your other plugins (the .esp's). Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp= redundant when using the Blackened patch. F3ProjectRealityMkI.espis best loaded all the way at the bottom of your load order. (yes, even below Remastered and Blackened) Don't forget to make a new merged patch after making the above changes. Fallout Remastered - EVE V One (Paradox Ignition Merge).espI don't recall naming this little patch as such. Did you rename this patch yourself? (just curious) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nino791 Posted March 20, 2013 Author Share Posted March 20, 2013 HI BlackRampage,thx for your post i look for your suggestion and this is the result: FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.espEVE - RH Ironsights Patch.esp are show at .esp but are marked as master (they show in black on fomm). Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp thx for suggestion i remove it from active esp. F3ProjectRealityMkI.esp ok i give a try, put him on the bottom in front of my merge patch. Fallout Remastered - EVE V One (Paradox Ignition Merge).esp this is a esp i found whith fallout remastered archive, sorry but not remember where i dowload the archive. (but i think my version of remastered was the cause of my big problem) many thx , Nino791 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nino791 Posted March 27, 2013 Author Share Posted March 27, 2013 (edited) after several test i resolve most of problem, now my LO are: Fallout3.esmAnchorage.esmThePitt.esmBrokenSteel.esmPointLookout.esmZeta.esmiHUD.esmStreetLights.esm (place here to avoid cursor problem on launch)CRAFT.esmCALIBR.esmProject Beauty.esmArefuExpandedByAzar.esmAWorldOfPainFO3.esmAlton, IL.esmEVE.esmFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esmMart's Mutant Mod.esmDCInteriors_ComboEdition.esmRH_IRONSIGHTS.esmEVE - RH Ironsights Patch.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.espThe Coalition.esmFallout Remastered - EVE V One (Paradox Ignition Merge).esm (good one and transformed into .esm)DarNifiedUIF3.espProject Beauty- Broken Steel.espProject Beauty- Point Lookout.espRH_IronSights_RemoveReticule.espRH_IronSights_Vanilla_NewWeapons.espPCB.espArefuExpandedByAzar-Radio.espUPP - Experience Perks.espUPP - Quest Perks.espShadows and Dust - Southwest DC - Public.espRZW_SlotMachine.espArefuExpandedByAzar-FixMisc.espArefuExpandedByAzar-FixOptRemOld.espArefuExpandedByAzar-FixOptAddNew.espArefuExpandedByAzar-FixEyes.espBig Town Overhaul [GangStore].espMoriarty's Saloon Fen chui Mod.espNewMall.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).espWeaponModKits.espWeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.espWeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.espWeaponModKits - ThePitt.espWeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.espWeaponModKits - PointLookout.espWeaponModKits - Zeta.espBBBackpacks-v1-1.espImperfection.espImperfection - Trolls.espImperfection - Broken Steel.espImperfection - PL Giants.espMart's Mutant Mod.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.espMart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.espMart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main.espdD-More Gore-BrokenSteel.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - More Gore.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - More Gore Zeta.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - More Gore The Pitt.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - More Gore PointLookout.espdD-Reduced Ragdoll Force.espdD-Reduced Dismember Force.espdD-Smaller Wounds.espAltonAddon.espaltonintegratenightvision.espaltonintegratepowerarmorweight.espAlton Clifftop Shack.espAlton-il-ITA Version.espShadows and Dust - Volume 2.espShadows and Dust - Volume 2 RH Compatible.espTrentonTowers.espBornagain Outcast T-45d Texture Patch.espBasic and Advanced Lockpick Sets and Electronic Hacking Kitd-v1-18654.espSmall Megaton Shack v1.0.espdD-Smaller Spatters Realistic.espdD-Full Screen Blood Instant Remove.espFO3_WRP.espAiding the Outcasts.espF3ProjectRealityMkI.espRH_WMK_Bridge.espRH_FWE_Bridge.espFWE RH_IronSights DLC Fix (PI Version).espFallout Remastered.esp (good one)Fallout Remastered - Project Beauty.espFallout Remastered - FWE.espFallout Remastered - FWE + RH Ironsights.espFallout Remastered - Mart's Mutants Mod.espBlackened FWE + MMM + EVE + Project Beauty.espMerge_patch.esp (make without FO3-remastered and blackened) whit this order most of crash are gone but remain a random freeze on combat or when are too many enemy on screen, but are much less than before, i made this update for help anyone have my similar load roder. most of mods are sorted by Boss. have a nice game :biggrin:Nino791 Edited March 27, 2013 by nino791 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRampage Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 StreetLights.esm (place here to avoid cursor problem on launch)Place it between The Pitt and Broken Steel instead. Fallout Remastered - EVE V One (Paradox Ignition Merge).esm (good one and transformed into .esm)You really shouldn't "transform this plugin into a .esm. If only because it's meant as a patch for the main Remastered mod, which automatically means it's supposed to be loaded below Remastered. FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).espUse only one of these plugins, not both. Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.espLike I mentioned before on this very same thread, this plugin is redundant when using Blackened. (trust me, I know :P ) Merge_patch.esp (make without FO3-remastered and blackened)If you indeed made this without Remastered and Blackened (like you should), then you should also put it above both mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nino791 Posted March 29, 2013 Author Share Posted March 29, 2013 (edited) Hi BlackRampage,and again thx for yur time, i have made very most test on my load order an finally i get the suffer decision to deactivate all mods, uninstall all componets of FO3 and remake it from zero.......a very blood bath......but i reach a solution and this is my new load order: [X] Fallout3.esm[X] Anchorage.esm[X] ThePitt.esm[X] StreetLights.esm[X] BrokenSteel.esm[X] PointLookout.esm[X] Zeta.esm[X] CRAFT.esm[X] CALIBR.esm[X] Project Beauty.esm[X] ArefuExpandedByAzar.esm[X] AWorldOfPainFO3.esm[X] Alton, IL.esm[X] EVE.esm (PI 1.1 version)[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esm[X] Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm[X] DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm[X] RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm[X] EVE - RH Ironsights Patch.esp[X] Fellout-Full.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp[X] DarNifiedUIF3.esp[X] Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp[X] Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp[X] PCB.esp[X] Realistic Megaton Shack - FINAL.esp[X] RMS - Update 2.esp[X] ArefuExpandedByAzar-Radio.esp[X] UPP - Experience Perks.esp[X] UPP - Quest Perks.esp[X] Shadows and Dust - Southwest DC - Public.esp[X] RZW_SlotMachine.esp[X] ArefuExpandedByAzar-FixMisc.esp[X] ArefuExpandedByAzar-FixOptRemOld.esp[X] ArefuExpandedByAzar-FixOptAddNew.esp[X] ArefuExpandedByAzar-FixEyes.esp[X] Moriarty's Saloon Fen chui Mod.esp[X] NewMall.esp[X] TrentonTowers.esp[X] Shadows and Dust - Volume 2.esp[X] Shadows and Dust - Volume 2 RH Compatible.esp[X] AltonAddon.esp[X] altonintegratenightvision.esp[X] altonintegratepowerarmorweight.esp[X] Alton Clifftop Shack.esp[X] Alton-il-ITA Version.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp[ ] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp[X] RH_FWE_Bridge.esp[X] BBBackpacks-v1-1.esp[X] Imperfection.esp[X] Imperfection - Broken Steel.esp[X] Imperfection - PL Giants.esp[X] Imperfection - Trolls.esp[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esp[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp[] Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp[X] Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp[X] Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp[X] Enhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.esp[X] Enhanced Weather - REBOOT.esp[X] Bornagain Outcast T-45d Texture Patch.esp[X] Fellout Brighter Nights.esp[X] FO3_WRP.esp[X] Merge_patch.esp (without remstered and blackened)[X] Fallout Remastered.esp[X] Fallout Remastered - Project Beauty.esp[ ] Fallout Remastered - EVE V One (Paradox Ignition Merge).esp[X] Fallout Remastered - FWE.esp[X] Fallout Remastered - FWE + RH Ironsights.esp[X] Fallout Remastered - Mart's Mutants Mod.esp[X] Fallout Remastered - Fellout.esp[X] Blackened FWE + MMM + EVE + Project Beauty.esp i remove some mods and take a less new (i hope my stability improve) now i get one problem on start my cursor gone and i cant see the initial menu and the error is "Fallout Remastered - EVE V One (Paradox Ignition Merge).esp" because i have the PI EVE 1.1. do you now any solution for this problem? (i realize now you created blackened :biggrin: very nice one!!!!) ThxNino791 Edited March 29, 2013 by nino791 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nino791 Posted March 30, 2013 Author Share Posted March 30, 2013 I have found a post into the discussion of Paradox ignition mod where BlackRampage suggest to use his old blackened combo patch (fwe+mmm+eve+pb) for resolve cursor error and in fact this work but i must install EVE PI 1.0 Now all my mods work but I am faced with two choices: 1 - use old verion of EVE PI and Blackened (with all the possible consequences) to continue to use Fallout remastered 2 - remove EVE PI version and install default version + all bridge necessary with Blackened (fwe+mmm+pb) combo patch but i must drop Fallout remastered and install other mod like Error Correction - reduce CTD (again with all the possible consequences, this patch is less effective than remastered) The situation begins to bother me, I would just like make a game stable with beautiful mod........hint are really welcome Nino791 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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