CONGRATULATIONS AMERICA!

[dragonpen61]

Whose jokes and what do you mean history is just fluff?

 

From an Australian point of view its American humor that is often seen as odd though I really have enjoyed some American comedy. Mind you, even a few Australians think my jokes are bad and I can't blame them. No more bad jokes in the forum from me!!!

 

Anyway, back to politics, trying to balance the books on a big economic scale as if it were a big household is not going to work. Roosevelt only solved many problems by spending big on public programs and then World War II provided a massive employment boost and much wealth creation for the USA. In Australia we have the same sort of arguments along party lines about spending and saving that Americans have but in our case its the Labour Party and the Coalition who are doing the squabbling with some minor parties holding the balance of power in the Senate. We also just passed a large economic stimulus package though small in comparison to the one that Obama had passed in the USA. Our country is supposedly in a better economic position than the USA but we are rapidly on the down slide with at least one State declaring it has gone into recession.

 

As for history from schools being fluff, I studied it at university and it was too damned hard study to be just fluff. While I read lots of theory I also did courses that linked historical theory with more practical every day stuff. It wasn't just fluff!!!

 

Love the :banana:

[PureSnipe]

Okay. Here's how it stands for me. Obama's current spending plan is roughly 12.6% of our GDP. THINK ABOUT THAT. Not only that, but every president from the original one has strayed from the Constitution, but none have referred to it as "A pretty good document" with "a huge blind spot" as Obama so kindly did. Let me copy and paste from an email I sent to a friend so I don't have to type the whole flippin thing again.

 

Yeah, but the problem is, and bear with me on this, it'll probably be long, as I'm taking some college classes on government atm. When you spend like he's doing, you have to raise taxes. If you only tax the top 5% of the population, you're taxing the people like General Mills, Exon, and other big production companies. To cope with those higher taxes, they fire people and increase the price of their products to cope for the new amount of taxes. He said also that "[he] intends to raise taxes on 100% of small businesses", so just about every small business is going to be laying people off to cope with those tax increases. It's been proven throughout history that what you do when the economy is in a slump, is you cut taxes, and cut government spending. When you do that, you give the consumer more money in their pocket to spend, and you also make more jobs. A perfect example is my best friend's dad told her yesterday that with these tax raises that are being emplaced, the 5 people he was intending to hire, he's not going to be able to. On top of that, he said he may even have to fire a few if the taxes go any higher.

 

Out of context for the post because it was directed at a single person. Not only is he screwing the economy, he has also lied to us. He promised he'd have NO lobbiests(sp) on his cabinet, then what does he do? Selects three. Not to mention a tax cheat to head up the treasury. He's ALSO taking credit for a policy that Fmr. Pres. Bush put into place to have the majority of our troops withdrawn from Iraq by September 2010.

All in all, he's just going to tear our country even further down than it is now, and even faster than McCain would have. Neither were good choices, But what do you choose, the bottle of water that tastes like sh*t, or the glass of liquified sh*t? Not meaning that as a racist comment by any means, but it's the first thing that came to mind

In no way shape or form do I want this man to fail. I just know he's going to.

And, let's make a joke now, shall we? I made this in photoshop just yesterday after I heard what his spending was planning to do.

[Wikinger9048]

http://blog.balder.org/billeder-blog/Cartoon-Deesillustration-Com-Obama-Puppet-260.jpg

 

www.obamacrimes.com

New Alex Jones Movie: The Obama Decaption

[LHammonds]

Whose jokes and what do you mean history is just fluff?

I was making a joke with that one-liner reply to Michlo. I did not think it got much more plain than that. I even added a smiley character in case somebody did not get it. :rolleyes:

 

New Alex Jones Movie: The Obama Decaption

Very interesting movie. Although it is 2 hours long, I would recommend it to many of our youth (in any nation) to watch it to completion. We (at work) have been discussing these kinds of topics for quite some time now and this is a very good summary of those discussion in a timely summary video. Kudos to Alex Jones!

 

I am LHammonds, and I approve of this message (but not necessarily the author). :thumbsup:

 

LHammonds (Sheep Dog)

[katklaw]

First of all I should say Congratulations on your choice for a new President.

 

I believe Obama is a great choice from the perspective of the rest of the world.

 

Im from New Zealand and we watched your elections just about as much interest as we watched our own.

 

We also got, I believe the right man for the right job at the right time.

 

I cant help but believe that Obama will help America through what will be a very hard time.

 

For too long Americans have been badly led I feel.

 

President Bush looked at times was out of his depth and also had lost touch with as he put it"my fellow Americans". This was particularily evident with Cyclone Katrina. How could he be indifferent to his own people's plight and let great young Americans go and die in Iraq. I know he was put in a bad place after 9/11 but to destroy a president of another country and all of its infrastucture creating a political and regional vaccum in an unstable area of the world causing a generation of young Americans to have to stay and hold the country (and believe me its not going to end soon)was unforgivable.

 

The worst thing about this was after 9/11 he was just a puppet. You could almost see the strings being pulled behind him.

 

Now as a result of this bad leadership a false economy was created by the war machine needed to keep operation going in the Gulf. I mean its huge and has manifested itself into a monster that needs to be fed daily. It is one of the key stressors that has lead to the down turn in not only Americas economy but also the worlds which is always affected by America's.

 

Now what I am hoping with Obama is that he does what is nessesary to kick start the economy in America create jobs which will lead to a stabilisation of the world economy.

 

Its a big ask.

 

 

Katklaw

[dragonpen61]

Whose jokes and what do you mean history is just fluff?

I was making a joke with that one-liner reply to Michlo. I did not think it got much more plain than that. I even added a smiley character in case somebody did not get it. :rolleyes:

 

 

Sorry about misreading your one liner. I am new to forums and am still learning how to flow with the communications, to pick up on the clues and the use of emoticons but I am learning.

 

Love the :banana:

[PureSnipe]

First of all I should say Congratulations on your choice for a new President.

 

I believe Obama is a great choice from the perspective of the rest of the world.

 

Im from New Zealand and we watched your elections just about as much interest as we watched our own.

 

We also got, I believe the right man for the right job at the right time.

 

I cant help but believe that Obama will help America through what will be a very hard time.

 

For too long Americans have been badly led I feel.

 

President Bush looked at times was out of his depth and also had lost touch with as he put it"my fellow Americans". This was particularily evident with Cyclone Katrina. How could he be indifferent to his own people's plight and let great young Americans go and die in Iraq. I know he was put in a bad place after 9/11 but to destroy a president of another country and all of its infrastucture creating a political and regional vaccum in an unstable area of the world causing a generation of young Americans to have to stay and hold the country (and believe me its not going to end soon)was unforgivable.

 

The worst thing about this was after 9/11 he was just a puppet. You could almost see the strings being pulled behind him.

 

Now as a result of this bad leadership a false economy was created by the war machine needed to keep operation going in the Gulf. I mean its huge and has manifested itself into a monster that needs to be fed daily. It is one of the key stressors that has lead to the down turn in not only Americas economy but also the worlds which is always affected by America's.

 

Now what I am hoping with Obama is that he does what is nessesary to kick start the economy in America create jobs which will lead to a stabilisation of the world economy.

 

Its a big ask.

 

 

Katklaw

 

 

I'm sorry, but if that's what you're hearing from your media, then you're hearing lies. The war costs 12 billion per year. YEAR. Obama has spent 1.3 TRILLION dollars of our money already in the first, not even, three months.

 

And about the troops not wanting to stay in Iraq? Sorry, that's complete and total bullsh*t. I can even call up my cousin in the armed forces and have him clarify from the standpoint of the military that they WANT to stay there and finish what they started.

 

Granted, you aren't an American, so you won't know what's truly happening, but as Obama may be the best choice for the 'world', he sure isn't the best choice for America.

 

My dad, who is an FFDO, (law enforcement department of pilots who carry pistols in the cockpit) got a notice today that Obama wants to remove that program on an account of a few mishaps. The FFDO program has had less mishaps than any other law enforcement agency in the country. If we want to go off of these standards, then why doesn't he just send us into anarchy? The only people that benefit from a pilot being disarmed are the terrorists. Something seem a little messed up here? Not only does he want to cut the military by 30%, he wants to disarm pilots.

 

Obama isn't leading either. Every speech he has ever made was written for him by a member of his cabinet, and in every press conference he has ever done, he has had to have a member of his cabinet tell him what to say. Even the pulling of the troops by 2010 is him riding on the coattails of an order Bush enacted before he left office.

 

From your point of view, it may seem as Bush was being led. From our point of view, the clear point of view, he wasn't, and Obama is.

 

How was Bush being indifferent to Katrina? Really, I can't see how, considering that FEMA was sent within the first few days. And I kindly ask how you came up with your facts, seeing as you aren't a citizen of the United States, and you didn't cite a reference.

 

And destroy a PRESIDENT of Iraq? Saddam Hussein wasn't a president, he was a DICTATOR. Look the two up please.

[exanimis]

All hail the great and powerful .OBAMASIAH, President of the OBAMANATION.

 

There are those within our government who are trying to have Obama thrown out of office for refusing to provide a birth certificate proving his citizenship and right to be president. Give it a rest people! Just because he refuses to produce a birth certificate and has blocked the supreme court from allowing anyone access to his birth records is no reason to throw him out of office. So what if he was born in Kenya, you can't do anything about it because that would be a raciest attempt at bringing down any black man who has reached a place of power.

 

Here is the best way to solve the problem. Article II - The Executive Branch section 1 of the constitution of the United states of America states

 

"No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

 

If it turns out that Obama was actually born outside the U.S. and therefore not eligible for the presidency, you just have to change that one section of the constitution.

 

Hey! Problem solved. Just because that article hasn't been changed since the birth of this nation doesn't mean it should apply to Obama. Come to think of it, while they are in there tinkering around, why not get rid of that pesky second amendment. You know, the one that states,

 

"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. "

 

Oh and he could also change that other nuisance, that states

 

"No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President, when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term."

 

With those small changes Obamassiah could rule forever

 

All hail the great and powerful Obamassiah

[LHammonds]

** Snip **

That's not even funny. :blink:

[Michlo]

No, it certainly isn't funny.

 

I'd love to see what these Obama bashers would have done in his place. He inherited a MESS. He is being far more open about the attempts to clean it up than our LAST EIGHT YEARS of administration.

 

There are those who are even vocal about wanting him and his policies to fail. How selfish and short-sighted is that?? Unbelievable.

 

I say no matter your political stance, wish for the best for everyone, give a new administration some time to prove itself and / or do something yourself to help the world.