TehPuggishOne Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 So, because my previous topic hadn't gotten another response in a couple days, I still haven't gotten the issue resolved, and I had accidentally posted it in the general discussion forums instead of technical support, I thought I'd post another one here instead.I recently decided to reinstall FO4 and do a modded run, however I'm currently having an issue with the game crashing on startup, with no error or anything like that. I've no idea what could be causing this issue, so I'd appreciate help on the matter.Here is my load order: # Automatically generated by VortexFallout4.esmDLCRobot.esmDLCworkshop01.esmDLCCoast.esmDLCworkshop02.esmDLCworkshop03.esmDLCNukaWorld.esmUnofficial Fallout 4 Patch.espSettlementKeywords.esmHomemaker.esmArmorKeywords.esmLoads.esmNewCalibers.espCAPA.eslGunners Overhaul 1.1.esmSnap'n Build.esmVulpineRace.esmAmeliaRace.espLupineRace.esmPrototypeMedicPowerArmor.eslLOST - AWKCR VIS-G Tweaks.espLOST Homemaker Patch.espSettlementMenuManager.espLOST Settlement Menu Manager Patch.espSmoke-able Cigars.espSmoke-able Cigars Hardcore Patch.espLOST Smokeable Cigars Patch.espLOST Snap Build Patch.espFireflies.espLOST Fireflies Patch.espSSC.espFO4Hotkeys.espLOST F04Hotkeys Patch.espRAW INPUT.espOWR2_CraftableDecor.espOWR2_CraftableDecor_CW.espOWR2_CraftableDecor_CW_SKPatch.espOWR2_CraftableDecor_SKPatch.espItsAllOverReplacer.espBetter Perks.espBetter Power Armor - Extended.espVIS-G Item Sorting.espValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion-VanillaWeight.espVIS-G Item Sorting Vanilla Weight Patch.espdef_inv_scrap_en.espArborist's Paradise.espWOTC.espSOTS.espLOST South of the Sea Patch.espBetter Locational Damage.espSwan Throws Swans.espBLD - Leveled Lists - DLC.espCF_AtomicWarlord.espLOST Church of Atom Patch.espFire Behavior Crippling v1 DLC.espMK_Agony.espBLD_Agony_Patch.espjags78_ExtendedAgony.espLOST Agony Patch.espCF_AtomicWarlord_VIS.espBLD_CoA_Patch.espBetter Power Armor - BLD - Patch.espEnhanced Flickering Firelight.espENBLightsHDRPatch.espStm_DiamondCityExpansion.espLOST Diamond City Expansion Patch.espTheKite_Railroad_Handmaiden.espLOST Handmaiden Patch.espNo Combat Boundaries.espCombatZoneRestored.espFLORA - The Fungal Forest.espFullLODs_Objects.espMsAbominations.espFullLod_RailRoads.espEli_Armour_Compendium.espLOST Eli Compendium Patch.espBetterCoastalWaves.espDeadAirplane.espRelic Space Marine.espMK_Agony_VIS Patch.espAnimChemRedux.espLOST Anim Chems Patch.espcombat_PA.espcombat_PA - AWKCR.esptank_PA.esptank_PA - AWKCR.espB35_PowerArmor.espVisible Weapons Extended - FULL.espWIPAG_BetterPowerArmor_Balance_Patch.espHomemaker - Greenhouse and Bunker Disabler.espHomemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects.espadvancedAITweaks.espCMPA +300.espSneaky Kills.espStabAnim4All.espLongRangeBulletHoles.espdD-Enhanced Blood.espdD - Small Splatter Size.espDynamicInteriorFogRemoval.espDIFR - VIS Patch.espLagrieHelmet.espSPECIAL_Raider_Outfit.espSPECIAL_Raider_Gas_Masks.espLongerPowerLines3x.espLongerClearedCellRespawn.espHillsofCorpses.espRainofBrassPetals.espConsistent Power Armor Overhaul.espPAMAP.espGive Me That Bottle.espMK_ComponentsRedone_VIS.espLoads of Ammo - Leveled Lists.espSpotlightShadows.espBetterFlareLight.espGlowing Animals Emit Light.espGrasslands - Healthy.espDCE_female_body_replacer.espSurvivalOptions.espSurvivalOptions_GiveMeThatBottlePatch.espBLD_Armor_Overhaul.espBPAO - Automatron Patch.espBPAO - PAMAP 2.0 Automatron Patch.espBPAO - ValdacilsItemSorting - DLCAutomatron.espLive Dismemberment - Brutal.espLive Dismemberment - Insane-o.espLive Dismemberment - Liebermode.espLive Dismemberment - Mental.espLive Dismemberment - Mind-Blowing.espLive Dismemberment - POSTAL.espLive Dismemberment - Regular.espSurvival Mode 1 to 1 Damage Ratio.espAnimChemRedux-VIS Patch.espLOST Chem Redux Patch.espchem redux.espVIS-PatchChemRedux.espBrighterSettlementLights_ExtraBrightv1.1.espImmersive Baby Replacer.esptap_that_ash.espSearch and Destroy.espFirstPersonDeathMod.espFlamerVATSfix.espcombatMusicOutroFix.espCombat Music Fix - FO4 Edition.espWET.espAnimatedIngestibles.espAnimatedInjestibles_RobotFix.espPD_LowerWeapon.espDynamic Weapon Shadows.espImprovedNuke.espNoevilPA.espCensor_Comments.espVulpinePowerArmor.espReverb and Ambiance Overhaul.espCalamity Weathers.espRadiant Clouds and Fogs.espMK_DeadMoon.espCalamity Weathers - Far Harbor.espCalamity Weathers - Nuka World.espCalamity Weathers - Interiors.espCalamity Weathers Reverb Patch.espVivid Fallout - All in One - Best Choice.espVulpinePlayer.espAmeliaPlayer.espLupinePlayer.espLushAmbience.espThe Space Marine.espGSE_Legacy_Assets.espLiberty_PA.espLOST Liberty Patch.espDiamondCityAmbience.espMore Smarter Companions Mod.espVault-Tec Power Armor by NewerMind43 & Captain-Ultima.espLOST Vault Tec Patch.espDeathclawArmory.espBuildingGroundFix.esppowerarmort49.espLOST Storyteller PA Patch.espUltracitePA.espLOST Ultracite Patch.espDeathclawArmory - Spawns Addon.espTEEParty.espBioshockInspiredPowerArmor.espMK_CanteensofCommonwealth.espstandaloneconstruct.espLOST Construction PA Patch.espMidwest Power Armor Evolution.espLOST Midwest Evolution Patch.espCAPA.espLOST CAPA Patch.espSubmersiblePowerArmorRedux.espFO4TribalPowerArmor.espM1Garand.espLOST M1 Garand Patch.espLOST Tribal PA Patch.espSierra Power Armor By Mr. Mobius.espCPAO - PAMAP 2.0 Patch.espBLD - AI Tweaks.espD.E.C.A.Y.espLOST DECAY Patch.espdD - MoreBloodandBits.espLooksMenu Customization Compendium.espBLD_LooksMenuPatch.espEnclaveX02.espLOST Enclave X02 Patch.espBuilding Materials Dispenser.espDeathclawArmory - CPAO & PAMAP Patch.espDeathclawArmory - X-02.espDeathClawArmory - Gatorclaw Addon.espM1Garand - AWKCR-VIS-VW.espM1Garand-2xDMG.espTEEPartyDLC.espMK_CanteensofCommonwealth_VIS Patch.espDeathclawArmory - Hats Addon.espCityAmbience.espSkyrimInspiredPowerArmor.espRedShiftPowerArmor.espLOST Red Shift PA Patch.espT-51C Power Armor.espLOST T51c AirForce Patch.espLOST TES-51 Patch.espWIPAG_Power Armor Overhaul.espWIPAG_B35_Addon.espWIPAG_Classic_Addon.espWIPAG_Combat_Addon.espWIPAG_Contraptions_DLC_Addon.espWIPAG_FarHarbor_DLC_Addon.espWIPAG_Medic_Addon.espWIPAG_NukaWorld_DLC_Addon.espWIPAG_Spartan_Addon.espWIPAG_VIS-G_Addon.espWIPAG_Vanilla_AWKCR_PA_Addon.espWIPAG_Construction_Addon.espWIPAG_Liberty_Addon.espWIPAG_MidwestEvo_Addon.espWIPAG_Relic_Addon.espWIPAG_Sierra_Addon.espWIPAG_SpaceMarine_Addon.espWIPAG_Storyteller_Addon.espWIPAG_SubRedux_Addon.espWIPAG_Submersible_Addon.espWIPAG_Tribal_Addon.espWIPAG_Ultracite_Addon.espWIPAG_X02_Enclave_Addon.espWIPAG_Vault_Tec_Addon.espExcavatorPA.espLOST Excavator Patch.espWarMachine.espOWR2.espLOST Old World Radio 2 Patch.espOWR2_SKEPatch.espInstitutePowerArmor.espMidWest PA.espHellfirenew.espLOST Hellfire X03 Patch.espWIPAG_Excavator_Addon.espWIPAG_Institute_Addon.espWIPAG_Midwest_Addon.espWIPAG_RedShift_Addon.espWIPAG_T51c_Addon.espWIPAG_WarMachine_Addon.espWIPAG_X03_Hellfire_Addon.espWIPAG_TES51_Addon.espBNPA_NAVI Armor.espNAVI headlamp fix.espVulpinePiperCait.espLooksMenu.espAMELIA_Curie_Replacer.espAMELIA_X6-88_Replacer.espAzarPonytailHairstyles.espLupineAzarHairPatch.espCBBE.espCF_AtomicWarlord_CBBE.esp3dscopes.espLOST See Through Scopes Patch.espArmorsmith Extended.espRaiderOverhaul.espLOST Raider Overhaul Patch.esprpampas.espReapers Pampas Patch.espSOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.espBetter Locational Damage_ Raider Overhaul_Valdacil_Patch.espRaider Overhaul - AE Patch.espHeadWounds.espAE LLP - Lagrie Helmets - Raider Overhaul.espJEM TheKite_Railroad_Handmaiden VIS-AWKCR-AE Patch.espSPECIAL_Raiders.espCF_AtomicWarlordNoMod.espEli Armor Compendium AE VIS Patch.espRoundGlasses.espWeaponsmith Extended 2.espBLD - Merged - WSE Edition.espWeaponSmith Extended 2 - Survival Ammo Weight Patch.espUnique NPCs.espLOST Unique NPCs Patch.espW.A.T.Minutemen.espLOST WATM Patch.espBrotherhood Power Armor Overhaul.espGunnerOverhaul_UniqueNPCs.espUnique NPCs_SpecialSettlers_All.espUnique NPCs FarHarbor.espUnique NPCs MortalPack.espUnique NPCs - Creatures and Monsters.espUnique NPCs - Creatures and Monsters - AE & VIS-G Patch.espLOST Unique Creatures Patch.espDeadlierDeathclaws.espLOST Deadlier Deathclaws Patch.espDeadlierDeathclaws_Insanity.espSuperMutantRedux.espLOST Super Mutant Redux Patch.espSuperMutantRedux VIS Patch.espSuperMutantRedux_Insanity.espSuperMutantRedux_ArmorSmithExtended.espSuperMutantRedux_WeaponsmithExtended_Patch.espUnique_NPCs_SuperMutantRedux.espHard Legendary Giant Creatures.espRespawnable Legendary Bosses.espUnique NPCs - Creatures and Monsters_SMR_AE.espScrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.espMechanist Lair Overhaul SEC.espBetterSettlers.espBetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.espEnhancedLightsandFX.espPip-Boy Flashlight.espX-02 PipboyLight Patch.espStartMeUp.espLOST StartMeUp Patch.espStartMeUpFarHarborPatch.espStartMeUpNukaWorldPatch.espNeither Vortex nor Loot are giving me errors about missing masters or conflicting mods. Keep in mind that some of these plugins are ELS's, so as far as I can tell, I am not going over the max mod limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadToRegister Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 For one you're installing EVERY SINGLE OPTION on the Live Dismemberment mod when you're only supposed to pick ONELive Dismemberment - Brutal.espLive Dismemberment - Insane-o.espLive Dismemberment - Liebermode.espLive Dismemberment - Mental.espLive Dismemberment - Mind-Blowing.espLive Dismemberment - POSTAL.espLive Dismemberment - Regular.espPick ONE of those, not ALL, that's ONE cause of your CTDYou seriously need to read the description pages of the mods you want to use. WOTC is a problem mod that causes CTDsLonger Power Lines 3X can cause CTDsWithout telling us which ESPs are actually ESPFes, there's no way to know if you are over the 254 esp limit.Did you convert these to ESPfe yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehPuggishOne Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) For one you're installing EVERY SINGLE OPTION on the Live Dismemberment mod when you're only supposed to pick ONE Live Dismemberment - Brutal.espLive Dismemberment - Insane-o.espLive Dismemberment - Liebermode.espLive Dismemberment - Mental.espLive Dismemberment - Mind-Blowing.espLive Dismemberment - POSTAL.espLive Dismemberment - Regular.esp Pick ONE of those, not ALL, that's ONE cause of your CTDYou seriously need to read the description pages of the mods you want to use. WOTC is a problem mod that causes CTDs Longer Power Lines 3X can cause CTDs Without telling us which ESPs are actually ESPFes, there's no way to know if you are over the 254 esp limit. Did you convert these to ESPfe yourself? I didn't realized I had installed every single option for Live Dismemberment. The maker of Live Dismemberment did not specify anywhere in the description of the mod that it would install all of the plugins via Vortex, and that I had to enable only one. Instead, they had it written down in the comments, which I didn't even think to go to at the time. Vortex says that I have 232 active plugins and 88 light plugins(that's not counting the Live Dismemberment bloat). I tried uninstalling WotC and extended powerlines, but regardless of all of this, the game is still crashing on startup. EDIT: I found the cause of the issue. Turns out, it was BUFFOUT 4 that was causing the crash as I was missing certain key mods it needed. Edited March 30, 2021 by TehPuggishOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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