Astaril

Arh no, its not an Imperial guy it's from Elenwen. Here is the note on the Dead Thalmor agent.. Thalmor Orders

In the beginning, it's really difficult though. When role-playing, do you fight your way out killing Stormcloaks? I go both routes half the time. But later in the game I usually just avoid joining either side. But you make a good point, that defeating the Thalmor ought to be the main goal. Killing fellow Nords seems like the wrong enemy. It plays right into the Thalmor plans. So my question is why do the Stormcloaks kill their own countrymen? Does anyone know if it was the Imperials who were punishing Talos worshippers in any cases? I thought it was the Thalmor actually doing it. I've come across the one scene with dead Nords at a Talos shrine with a dead Thalmor. Did the killing of each other start with Ulfric? I have only made two real characters so far but I agree with you on the roleplay at the begining! It seems bonkers to go with the Imperial guy after he gave the go ahead for you to have your head cut off, so I always go with the Stormcloak guy first of all (I like slaying that bossy Imperial woman as well :tongue: ) After seeing the larger picture and learning more about Ulfric and the war, I then roleplayed that my character sees the need for the war to end and sides with the Imperials for the greater good of Skyrim. She always remains sympathetic to some people who back the Stormcloaks though.(for instance I rescued that guy from the Thalmor tower) as she blames Ulfric entirely for brainwashing the Nords for his own agenda. On the killing of the Talos worshippers, I came across a similar scene to you quite near the starting area. I seem to recall a note on the Thalmor where an Imperial Officer was trying to deny that the shrine existed and was trying to put the guy off? Is that the same one? I will try and look it up.

Imperials 100% I think the Stormcloaks case is quite weak, I mean apart from the Talos thing what is there problem? Once a united Empire wins the war against the Thalmor then they can tear up the White Gold Concordat and then everything will be back to normal. I can't even mention my opinion of Ulfric else I might get a strike for bad language! :P

I completely agree with this, you sum up my thoughts very nicely here. In short "Good, but needs more Fluff!" I also rate Skyrim 7/10

@ OP I am enjoying Skyrim but I did not find it as addictive as Fallout and Oblivion. I think it lacks characters and the stories are rushed and some are implausible, (although to be fair I have only completed about 50% of the game so far.) I do think it is worth giving it another try though as I have found most of the enjoyment in the game stems from just exploring, roleplaying and all the random events that happen in game. So if you do decide to get into it again I would advise leaving the main questlines alone for a while and just do the little things that make this game good. Explore the world do some side quests, experiment with the new mods that are coming out and set a backround for your character, roleplay and just mess around really.

Some good tips there, I especially like the book collection one as I have so many I can't keep track of them all. I didn't know followers could harvest the soul gems either 8)

Yeah, I read this about J'zargo but having used him now for a good few quests I am going back to Marcurio as he seems really weak in comparison. I mean to the point that even with some heavy armour equiped he seems to go down in almost every encounter, even against a simple bear. I am not a high level though, mid twenties, but I wonder if he is bugged because the weakness is very evident. Just out of interest, have you used them both? If so did you notice Marcurio being stronger?

The best follower I have used so far is Marcurio, he rarely gets beaten down and his magic attack is really powerful, he can take down a couple of mobs on his own easily. Stat wise J'zargo is suppose to be a better mage but in practice I have found this not to be the case. Macurio seems to be programmed better too, he follows you down ledges and mountains better and doesn't get lost as much. Also if you walk up to him he will often move back out of your way so he doesn't block you in narrow passages as much as others I have used.

No, they didn't in Oblivion. Only in Morrowind. Not 100% but I am sure I remember some reaction in Oblivion, I don't think they mention that you are naked butr they act annoyed or shocked with you. Pretty sure I remember something like this. Does anyone know for certain?

I am forever running out of my Breezehome nakid :rolleyes: After messing around with various outfits I usually forget I haven't put anything back on. @ Lehcar try walking over to Ulfberth War-Bear in Whiterun his comment is quite funny :biggrin: (Its usually best if you just pass him in the street as don't know if he will say it while he is in the shop)

Good tip will do this! [off topic] decorating is driving me mad! :wallbash: so hopefully this will stop my items flying around really hope they fix the physics so it is more like it was in Oblivions and Fallouts. [back on topic] Riften Dock area is a good place to catch dragonflies, there seems to be more at night!

This is a great thread! there are so many things here that I didn't know that will be seriously useful or just fun tol try out! It would be really nice to have it pinned at the top of the forum for a while so people can keep adding to it. This is a bit lame compared to some on here but if you like decorating your house and want to have some flaming torches dotted around you can do this by the following method... equip torch > drop on ground > leave house > log out of game > log back in the auto save you just got from leaving the house > re enter house and they should be lit and ready to place where ever you like. :) Arh good point, also I try to save my skill books for as long as possible so that you get the benefit of the point at the higher level when it would usually take longer and be harder to achieve.

I love this thread! They are all funny but the OP's and Egg Pants are hilarious :laugh: I was with J'zargo and we had just finished a dungeon when we found this little bandit cave, its a kind of open air one. So we got set upon by about 5 bandits. Took them out quite easily but there was one left who seemed to have crazy health and was taking several fireballs to knock down. In the end we got him down to very low health, but I was out of mana and J'zargo was out of mana, anyway J'zargo stopped casting, plodded over to the guy and just threw him one effortless punch that finished him off. It was like he thought "I'v had enough of this" *bam* It was very funny, but I think you had to have been there to fully appreciate it. :biggrin:

Its a travesty! As is the first film of the newer three...whats it called... Grr the one with jaja binks or whatever. I can't watch it!

I think they can get married? I did a quest for an Argonian who wanted to get married and needed a special ring. @ OP I would sooo love to see little Khajiit and Argonians running around :) I didn't even consider why they were not in the game until you said, but I really think they should be now!!!

T hehe yep, thats how it goes :)

SLIGHT SPOILER mages guild questline! yeah its also like they started a story with that other faction of mages the ones you meet in Mzulft. I was expecting that they would cause trouble somewhere down the line, as at the end of the quest he seems to imply that he is going to inform his guild about what the college is hiding. but...nothing happens, that is the end of them forever. Boring! Its like they planned a much longer story but had to cut it short.

Oblivions by a mile. The questlines had much more meat to them. The mages questline was plausible in that you had to do a ton of quests just to get into the university and then it was a lengthy questline to get to the top. I felt that I had earned my position there, where as in Skyrim... Its really silly.

yeah, got to agree with this. I am still fuming about the implausible short mages guild questline so have stopped questing for a while and am just having a good explore around, mining, looting, butterfiles etc. The game is suddenly much more enjoyable. I wish we had the same standard of Oblivions characters, questlines and stories in the Skyrim world. Now that would make the game great!!!

If you read the way he has written his post it seems to be directed mainly at men playing woman, but he could mean both? :confused: I suspect he is a troll anyway.... he is probably having a good laugh about this. Grr I wish I could swear on this forum without getting banned! :dry:

I really don't like the title to this thread as it seems to imply that Roleplaying is entirely related to nude mods, porn and men playing as the opposite sex. This is NOT Roleplaying. Roleplay is a player of either sex playing as their character (any race or sex) so in the players imagination trying to act in game as their character might act in any given situation. A lot of Roleplayers make up back stories for their characters to explain their actions for instance, they may have had a tough, deprived or violent early life so they join the Dark Brotherhood as this is what they relate to emotionally (This is a very basic example). You are wrong to state your grievence of men playing as the opposite sex as Roleplaying, although this is not to say that a man can not roleplay as a female character, but this is NOT what "Roleplay" is or what it means. for example - I am a woman who roleplays a woman. I do not use any sex or nude mods (as yet) and I do not get off on it sexually. That said! On the point you are making which is one of why there are so many sex mods and why do men play female characters... On the sex mods I kinda agree, its sad that there are sooo many of them and some are really tacky, but its just personal taste and I guess you have to accept that everyone is entitled to do with their game what ever floats their boat. I don't mind the nude mods really but just the sheer number and quality of them is a bit disparaging. On men playing as woman, why does it matter? I think you are wrong when you imply that men don't play women because they want to look at a fit girl. I think the majority do! The men I know who do, have no gender confusion are mostly hetrosexual and just generally want to look at a fit womans ass! Do some choose females because of point number one "Sexual Depravity, desire for a "Perfect Partner" even in a virtual universe." Well maybe? but why is this any different to buying playboy, or watching a film with beautiful actresses in. forgive my terrible writting, its late here and I am sleepy but you got me with your troll!

You B%^%^d! I think you meant; "No..No! That's not true! That's impossible!" I did, but then I searched my feelings and I knew it to be true. :ohmy:

You B%^%^d!

Agreed, I always meant to sneak inside her basement to see if there were any dead bodies down there. :tongue: I actually don't mind the Dark Elves in Skyrim so much, my biggest problem is with the Bosmer and Altmer. Looking at all three of them pictures I have to admit the Skyrim elf is the best one. :blink: Although... just being pernickety now, I would just give her a teeny tiny little bit less pointy chin. lol, I guess if you look at the concept art (pic 2) he has a more rounded jaw line. So I am not a complete Philistine. :yes:

I love number 2 and 4 of that concept art, compairing that with the elves in game I think it is something about the eyes they have got wrong in Skyrim, they have made them too big and bug like. While the face and ears of the elves in game are elongated it is much softer in the art and they are less gaunt. I really wish they looked like these pictures, especially in the eyes. I don't l ike picture number 3, this is too much like the old Sylvanas Windrunner fromm wow. I am glad they didn't go down this route. I think it is the distict brow that is making people feel the star trek connection, even though there are slight differences as you rightly point out. I wonder if it is a case of it being such a strong feature on a face that you just see "pronounced brow" and the eye looks over the small detail of difference. If you get what I mean? Its not easy to explain what I mean in text. :confused: