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Hehe,what current situation?What the hell are you talking about?My post was all tongue in cheek.Go to Wally World and buy a sense of humor. Miley always had her act together,she like Madonna is a self promoter.She wanted to escape her Hanna image quickly and she used shock to accomplish that,perfect transition.She fooled a lot of people so don't feel bad. The wealth disparity. :) Wally world only has senses of humor from china, and they aren't very good..... Break down to easily, too much money for what you get. I am waiting for them to go on sale at Meijers. Theirs are at least imported from Taiwan....... (or was it Hong Kong?)

I keep looking for the age slider. I would love to be younger. :D

14 posts in 11 years? Yeah, I would say that qualifies as 'lurker'. :) Lets' have a look!

Trump actually has very little to do with the current situation, it took decades for it to get this bad, and, I would point out, it got worse under Obama as well. It's not a dem, or repub problem, it's a problem with our government as a whole. On a side note: I see that Miley seems to be actually getting her act together, and becoming a real human being. If she keeps it up, she can get my vote in 2020. :D

I am pretty sure all of the assets for FO3, were also in the NV archives. :D

It's a method of culling the gene pool. The truly stupid folks that go there, get arrested, and die, (hopefully, before they breed) are removed from the gene pool.

ÃÃÃÂ this is my fear. don't forget that Topware have locked the developers console so that console commands can no longer be used but you can purchase cheats through microtransaction. ÃÃÃÂ Couple problems with that.ÃÃÃÂ First, beth is expecting the 'amateur' mod authors to apply to become members of CC. If there are no amateur modders, their labor pool just dried up. ÃÃÃÂ Second, beths' whole premise for releasing the CK is so that PLAYERS can have the experience THEY want. Beth's vision doesn't come into it at all. ÃÃÃÂ Third, beth doesn't care about 'equal access'. Sure, they would like to see that happen, but, that's between Sony, and Beth.ÃÃÃÂ Consider that for the last decade and change, consoles haven't had mods. This is a new experience for console players. The playing field has never really been level. And the consoles are still restricted more so than PC. Beth isn't going to restrict PC's to X number of mods...... At this point, they can't. Will they for the next game? Doubtful. There is no advantage to beth in it. ÃÃÃÂ It is most certainly to beths advantage to have a healthy free-modding community. That is where they expect most of their CC members to come from. Why on earth would they cut their own throats by gutting it? We have to keep in mind that when bethesda released the creation kit, their success was on a different level, and they also have zenimax to answer to. with the success of fallout 4, the way consoles have gone, as well as micro transactions, I don't think the above post is beyond the realm of possibility. certainly Noone knows for sure but it is possible. even if the entire pc community stopped buying their games, they would still be well off with sales from consoles, not to mention if any mods had to be bought through them. also throw in the bigger variety of games being released under bethesda Softworks, wolfentein, doom, evil within, prey , Starfield etc. in my opinion it's safe to say they wouldn't care these days about pissing off our little pc modding community. if the next FO or ES game comes out with the creation kit and our mods stay free, I would be very surprised and would gain quite a bit of respect for them for ignoring that piece of a money making machine. The thing is, MA's take time to learn the tools, as they change from one game to the next. Beth isn't going to want CK noobs in CC. So, I would expect that Beth will continue to release the modding tools, so their potential labor pool will be at least passingly familiar with them. If they stop support free modding, they won't have a labor pool to draw from.

this is my fear. don't forget that Topware have locked the developers console so that console commands can no longer be used but you can purchase cheats through microtransaction. Couple problems with that. First, beth is expecting the 'amateur' mod authors to apply to become members of CC. If there are no amateur modders, their labor pool just dried up. Second, beths' whole premise for releasing the CK is so that PLAYERS can have the experience THEY want. Beth's vision doesn't come into it at all. Third, beth doesn't care about 'equal access'. Sure, they would like to see that happen, but, that's between Sony, and Beth. Consider that for the last decade and change, consoles haven't had mods. This is a new experience for console players. The playing field has never really been level. And the consoles are still restricted more so than PC. Beth isn't going to restrict PC's to X number of mods...... At this point, they can't. Will they for the next game? Doubtful. There is no advantage to beth in it. It is most certainly to beths advantage to have a healthy free-modding community. That is where they expect most of their CC members to come from. Why on earth would they cut their own throats by gutting it?

that would probably be ok but how much time would you have left to mod after all the work needed for the Patreon Page. Not to mention the average t-shirt is 15 bucks these days, and that's plain. Ad lettering to it, and that's another 10 bucks. At least.

And the games DID have free mods, they still do. With CC, you will only see NEW content. No 'parts' of mods, or anything else of that nature. Apparently, it IS possible for beth to learn something. (astounding as that revelation is......) Yup. Mod authors have put out some truly amazing stuff, all on their own, now, just think what they will be able to do working WITH Beth. Your predictions of gloom and doom have zero basis in fact, and are just your opinion, meaningless. You can no more predict the future than I can. I already told you what they would do. They will Bethesda-ize mods. Lower their features and quality to work with consoles. In the end it will result in bland content that is afraid to experiment and try new things. Profitability > Innovation Yeah, like Shivering Isles, that just sucked. They have been circling the toilet bowl for awhile... Imagine their games without our community.. This community is the only thing keeping this franchise alive and they want to cannibalize it. And once again, you have zero proof, evidence, or even innuendo, to support your supposition that CC will be anything but a boon to the community. Are you telling me you would still be doing Minute man radiant quests after 2 years? no, I doubt you even finished the game. For modders Modding is the game. Huh? What the hell are you talking about? Also, I haven't really modded since Oblivion, so, yes, I actually PLAY the games now. (I really disliked what they did with scripting, since ALL the mods I am responsible for were purely script-based.) That, and I leave Preston and company in the Museum. Much less annoying that way. And the games DID have free mods, they still do. With CC, you will only see NEW content. No 'parts' of mods, or anything else of that nature. Apparently, it IS possible for beth to learn something. (astounding as that revelation is......) Yup. Mod authors have put out some truly amazing stuff, all on their own, now, just think what they will be able to do working WITH Beth. Your predictions of gloom and doom have zero basis in fact, and are just your opinion, meaningless. You can no more predict the future than I can. I already told you what they would do. They will Bethesda-ize mods. Lower their features and quality to work with consoles. In the end it will result in bland content that is afraid to experiment and try new things. Profitability > Innovation Yeah, like Shivering Isles, that just sucked. The production of quality free mods slowed to basically a halt the day after beth announced the first paid mods attempt. That should tell you something. Also I will still see $1.99 bow mod for skyrim on the CC (but i have to buy todd tokens so ill need to spend 5usd to get the bow) again the major issues consumers had with the curated workshop are still there with the creation club. What? Nobody released a major mod for two whole days? Wow. It's the end of the world...... Yeah, I am not a fan of the 'credits' thing, and I am quite sure that the scenario you describe is EXACTLY why beth did it that way. They get cash when you buy the credits, and it is rather unlikely that you will find a mod set that will permit you to burn all of them, therefore, they get 'free money'...... I DO disagree with that.. but, I don't plan on buying anything anyway. :smile: Unless it is something on par with Shivering isles....... I am happy to just sit back, watch, and see what happens. Not like I get a lot of choice in the matter, eh? It may crash and burn, or, it may be the next best thing since sliced bread. The biggest thing here is, we just don't know. At least give it a chance. (again, like we have a choice.....) They did it to eliminate refunds. All you will get back is credits. All sales are final. Not really a surprise.

And the games DID have free mods, they still do. With CC, you will only see NEW content. No 'parts' of mods, or anything else of that nature. Apparently, it IS possible for beth to learn something. (astounding as that revelation is......) Yup. Mod authors have put out some truly amazing stuff, all on their own, now, just think what they will be able to do working WITH Beth. Your predictions of gloom and doom have zero basis in fact, and are just your opinion, meaningless. You can no more predict the future than I can. I already told you what they would do. They will Bethesda-ize mods. Lower their features and quality to work with consoles. In the end it will result in bland content that is afraid to experiment and try new things. Profitability > Innovation Yeah, like Shivering Isles, that just sucked. The production of quality free mods slowed to basically a halt the day after beth announced the first paid mods attempt. That should tell you something. Also I will still see $1.99 bow mod for skyrim on the CC (but i have to buy todd tokens so ill need to spend 5usd to get the bow) again the major issues consumers had with the curated workshop are still there with the creation club. What? Nobody released a major mod for two whole days? Wow. It's the end of the world...... Yeah, I am not a fan of the 'credits' thing, and I am quite sure that the scenario you describe is EXACTLY why beth did it that way. They get cash when you buy the credits, and it is rather unlikely that you will find a mod set that will permit you to burn all of them, therefore, they get 'free money'...... I DO disagree with that.. but, I don't plan on buying anything anyway. :) Unless it is something on par with Shivering isles....... I am happy to just sit back, watch, and see what happens. Not like I get a lot of choice in the matter, eh? It may crash and burn, or, it may be the next best thing since sliced bread. The biggest thing here is, we just don't know. At least give it a chance. (again, like we have a choice.....)

And the games DID have free mods, they still do. With CC, you will only see NEW content. No 'parts' of mods, or anything else of that nature. Apparently, it IS possible for beth to learn something. (astounding as that revelation is......) Yup. Mod authors have put out some truly amazing stuff, all on their own, now, just think what they will be able to do working WITH Beth. Your predictions of gloom and doom have zero basis in fact, and are just your opinion, meaningless. You can no more predict the future than I can. I already told you what they would do. They will Bethesda-ize mods. Lower their features and quality to work with consoles. In the end it will result in bland content that is afraid to experiment and try new things. Profitability > Innovation Yeah, like Shivering Isles, that just sucked. They have been circling the toilet bowl for awhile... Imagine their games without our community.. This community is the only thing keeping this franchise alive and they want to cannibalize it. And once again, you have zero proof, evidence, or even innuendo, to support your supposition that CC will be anything but a boon to the community.

And the games DID have free mods, they still do. With CC, you will only see NEW content. No 'parts' of mods, or anything else of that nature. Apparently, it IS possible for beth to learn something. (astounding as that revelation is......) Yup. Mod authors have put out some truly amazing stuff, all on their own, now, just think what they will be able to do working WITH Beth. Your predictions of gloom and doom have zero basis in fact, and are just your opinion, meaningless. You can no more predict the future than I can. I already told you what they would do. They will Bethesda-ize mods. Lower their features and quality to work with consoles. In the end it will result in bland content that is afraid to experiment and try new things. Profitability > Innovation Yeah, like Shivering Isles, that just sucked.

Yup. Mod authors have put out some truly amazing stuff, all on their own, now, just think what they will be able to do working WITH Beth. Your predictions of gloom and doom have zero basis in fact, and are just your opinion, meaningless. You can no more predict the future than I can.

Are we living in the same reality? The arts in this day and age are sheet. Everything is done by a formula to maximize profits. Movies are judged by how much cash they rake in. How many Mummy, Beauty and the Beast remakes do you need to see? Don't even get me started on music... Inject money into mods and have them filtered , curated and Bethesda-ized , what do you think will happen? Do you think they will push the envelope and come up with something outside of the formula? They have systematically dumbed down the franchise for maximum profitability. I don't think they are capable of being innovative anymore, I believe this is part of the reason they want to hijack our community. It takes modders like Kinggath to fix their profit driven after thought of a settlement system. It takes the Unofficial Patch crew to touch up and fix bugs that Bethesda to this day will not fix. Its all about money now with them. The artistry of gaming only exists for the grunts doing the actual art and even they are stifled and their creativity forced into a mold. You can be a negative pessimist to your hearts content, completely neglecting all the great works of art that has been made just to make it seem like you got a point. I need only point to the fact that you're here discussing video games and enjoying all types of media and it should be clear as day that you're an unrealistic hypocrite only pushing an agenda. So to answer your question; no, we don't live in the same reality. I am just dealing in facts, I don't think any thinking person would disagree that we are in a Dark Age when it comes to artistic expression.. I am sure there are plenty who think Harry Potter is a great work of literature and that Kanye West is indeed the greatest artist of all time, but I would hope they are a minority.. Bottom line, our modding community has nothing to gain from the intrusion of Bethesda. They have shown us what they are offering. $1 weapons and $5 Crab Armor. Until I see something else from them I will be a pessimist because they have a history to live down. "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice...I won't get fooled again." - GW Bush Our community is releasing incredible content now without their help. None of you sellouts has yet to say what exactly the community has to gain from this. Its all about what Modders wallets will gain. You're confusing facts with your own personal views and hyperbole opinions. You might be unwilling to look at alle the positives but I think it's sad that you'd go as far as wanting to destroy something so potetially rewarding - not only for mod authors but for users too - just out of spite. And what exactly are we risking if it fails? Nothing. But you're not afraid of failure, you're afraid of paid mods succeeding. Because in your mind that translates to just the same quality of mods except now you got to pay for them, as if having to pay for work is a legitimate reason to be against it in the first place. But if we're being realistic rather than a bunch of pessimistic doomsayers it is a whole lot more likely that money and the responsbility it intails will lead to higher quality mods developed by more professional "modders" who would never work for free. This is the only fact that matters: You are entitled to nothing. "Our community" as you put it will be whatever we as individual modders make it out to be and only a hypocrite would pretend to dictate what is best for us as a collective. Paid mods is only a choice that each individual mod author can choose to pursue, and if you're against people making a choice then you should seriously reconsider your position. Yes and what are the benefits for users? We get the privilege of getting fleeced by Bethesda? Please lay it out for me. You can't because there are no benefits. Yes there are. More official content, yes, that you have to pay for, that does not eat into your mod space, doesn't come with any restrictions, and, for the PS4 crowd, can use external assets. It is, quite literally, Official DLC. No one is forcing you to buy it, no one is even forcing you to look at it. However, there just might be some really good content made available, for small price. There really is NO downside here. If you don't want the content, don't buy it. Did you buy Horse Armor for Oblivion? When you didn't, did a beth employee come to your house, and put a bullet in the back of your head? No? Ok, so, where is the problem? We have great content now. Why should PS4 users have to pay for content that everyone else has? Why should other users have to pay so Ps4 Users can get content? Shouldn't Bethesda be eating that if they want it so bad? They are the ones who promised them content, not me. And I saw no evidence of DLC. I saw swords and armor for sale. That's it. They didn't even bother to try and provide a scale of DLC. I think we saw exactly what we are getting. Paid mods to mainly fleece Ps4 users but it will hit us all. PS4 folks are being screwed by Sony. Not beth, not zenimax, not mod authors. They should know exactly who to blame by now. And no one at beth works for free. They are in business to make money. Not give stuff away for free. Once again, that is on Sony. That was a demo. Likely not even 'real' content. And even if that is all 'we' get, how does it hurt anyone at all? If the PS4 folks want it, they can get it, if you don't want it, you don't have to. Thank You! Someone that 'gets it'. CC is NOT going to be the end of free modding. It simply is. not. It can't be. Not only for the reasons pointed out by the destroyed spacecraft, but also because without free mods, beths pool of potential authors immediately dries up. I will grant that beth has made some less-than-appealing decisions in the past, but, I don't find it very likely that they are really looking to fall on their own swords. And what is keeping them bound to this? They have lied over promised many many times. There is no reason for me to believe their words, especially when it doesn't match what they present to the public. I will grant that they don't have the best rep, but, you CAN bet that they are going to do what is in their own best interests. If they dispose of free modding, their labor pool immediately dries up, and CC becomes useless. Do you really think they are that stupid? we already waited and saw. It was called the steam curated workshop. Totally different situation here. The steam workshop was open to anyone that wanted to upload their version of Horse Armor. CC is going to have an EXTREMELY limited participation rate. Less than .1% of mod authors will likely ever be involved. That leaves the other 99.9% cranking out free stuff. If you'll recall most people were not upset because anyone could upload to the curated workshop. Most people were upset because they were being charged for food retextures and bow mods. The core issues haven't changed in the slightest honestly. At least it doesn't seem like they have at all. And anyone paying for those only had themselves to blame. What is so hard to understand about "If you don't want it, DON'T BUY IT."??????? The REASON you were seeing idiocy like that, is BECAUSE it was open to anyone. And as I recall, most folks were upset simply because mod authors could put their mods behind a paywall, regardless of quality, or content. The 'always been free, always should be free' folks raised quite a stink. Gabe folded under pressure. I don't think Beth is going to.

Are we living in the same reality? The arts in this day and age are sheet. Everything is done by a formula to maximize profits. Movies are judged by how much cash they rake in. How many Mummy, Beauty and the Beast remakes do you need to see? Don't even get me started on music... Inject money into mods and have them filtered , curated and Bethesda-ized , what do you think will happen? Do you think they will push the envelope and come up with something outside of the formula? They have systematically dumbed down the franchise for maximum profitability. I don't think they are capable of being innovative anymore, I believe this is part of the reason they want to hijack our community. It takes modders like Kinggath to fix their profit driven after thought of a settlement system. It takes the Unofficial Patch crew to touch up and fix bugs that Bethesda to this day will not fix. Its all about money now with them. The artistry of gaming only exists for the grunts doing the actual art and even they are stifled and their creativity forced into a mold. You can be a negative pessimist to your hearts content, completely neglecting all the great works of art that has been made just to make it seem like you got a point. I need only point to the fact that you're here discussing video games and enjoying all types of media and it should be clear as day that you're an unrealistic hypocrite only pushing an agenda. So to answer your question; no, we don't live in the same reality. I am just dealing in facts, I don't think any thinking person would disagree that we are in a Dark Age when it comes to artistic expression.. I am sure there are plenty who think Harry Potter is a great work of literature and that Kanye West is indeed the greatest artist of all time, but I would hope they are a minority.. Bottom line, our modding community has nothing to gain from the intrusion of Bethesda. They have shown us what they are offering. $1 weapons and $5 Crab Armor. Until I see something else from them I will be a pessimist because they have a history to live down. "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice...I won't get fooled again." - GW Bush Our community is releasing incredible content now without their help. None of you sellouts has yet to say what exactly the community has to gain from this. Its all about what Modders wallets will gain. You're confusing facts with your own personal views and hyperbole opinions. You might be unwilling to look at alle the positives but I think it's sad that you'd go as far as wanting to destroy something so potetially rewarding - not only for mod authors but for users too - just out of spite. And what exactly are we risking if it fails? Nothing. But you're not afraid of failure, you're afraid of paid mods succeeding. Because in your mind that translates to just the same quality of mods except now you got to pay for them, as if having to pay for work is a legitimate reason to be against it in the first place. But if we're being realistic rather than a bunch of pessimistic doomsayers it is a whole lot more likely that money and the responsbility it intails will lead to higher quality mods developed by more professional "modders" who would never work for free. This is the only fact that matters: You are entitled to nothing. "Our community" as you put it will be whatever we as individual modders make it out to be and only a hypocrite would pretend to dictate what is best for us as a collective. Paid mods is only a choice that each individual mod author can choose to pursue, and if you're against people making a choice then you should seriously reconsider your position. Yes and what are the benefits for users? We get the privilege of getting fleeced by Bethesda? Please lay it out for me. You can't because there are no benefits. Yes there are. More official content, yes, that you have to pay for, that does not eat into your mod space, doesn't come with any restrictions, and, for the PS4 crowd, can use external assets. It is, quite literally, Official DLC. No one is forcing you to buy it, no one is even forcing you to look at it. However, there just might be some really good content made available, for small price. There really is NO downside here. If you don't want the content, don't buy it. Did you buy Horse Armor for Oblivion? When you didn't, did a beth employee come to your house, and put a bullet in the back of your head? No? Ok, so, where is the problem? We have great content now. Why should PS4 users have to pay for content that everyone else has? Why should other users have to pay so Ps4 Users can get content? Shouldn't Bethesda be eating that if they want it so bad? They are the ones who promised them content, not me. And I saw no evidence of DLC. I saw swords and armor for sale. That's it. They didn't even bother to try and provide a scale of DLC. I think we saw exactly what we are getting. Paid mods to mainly fleece Ps4 users but it will hit us all. PS4 folks are being screwed by Sony. Not beth, not zenimax, not mod authors. They should know exactly who to blame by now. And no one at beth works for free. They are in business to make money. Not give stuff away for free. Once again, that is on Sony. That was a demo. Likely not even 'real' content. And even if that is all 'we' get, how does it hurt anyone at all? If the PS4 folks want it, they can get it, if you don't want it, you don't have to. Thank You! Someone that 'gets it'. CC is NOT going to be the end of free modding. It simply is. not. It can't be. Not only for the reasons pointed out by the destroyed spacecraft, but also because without free mods, beths pool of potential authors immediately dries up. I will grant that beth has made some less-than-appealing decisions in the past, but, I don't find it very likely that they are really looking to fall on their own swords. And what is keeping them bound to this? They have lied over promised many many times. There is no reason for me to believe their words, especially when it doesn't match what they present to the public. I will grant that they don't have the best rep, but, you CAN bet that they are going to do what is in their own best interests. If they dispose of free modding, their labor pool immediately dries up, and CC becomes useless. Do you really think they are that stupid? we already waited and saw. It was called the steam curated workshop. Totally different situation here. The steam workshop was open to anyone that wanted to upload their version of Horse Armor. CC is going to have an EXTREMELY limited participation rate. Less than .1% of mod authors will likely ever be involved. That leaves the other 99.9% cranking out free stuff.

Are we living in the same reality? The arts in this day and age are sheet. Everything is done by a formula to maximize profits. Movies are judged by how much cash they rake in. How many Mummy, Beauty and the Beast remakes do you need to see? Don't even get me started on music... Inject money into mods and have them filtered , curated and Bethesda-ized , what do you think will happen? Do you think they will push the envelope and come up with something outside of the formula? They have systematically dumbed down the franchise for maximum profitability. I don't think they are capable of being innovative anymore, I believe this is part of the reason they want to hijack our community. It takes modders like Kinggath to fix their profit driven after thought of a settlement system. It takes the Unofficial Patch crew to touch up and fix bugs that Bethesda to this day will not fix. Its all about money now with them. The artistry of gaming only exists for the grunts doing the actual art and even they are stifled and their creativity forced into a mold. You can be a negative pessimist to your hearts content, completely neglecting all the great works of art that has been made just to make it seem like you got a point. I need only point to the fact that you're here discussing video games and enjoying all types of media and it should be clear as day that you're an unrealistic hypocrite only pushing an agenda. So to answer your question; no, we don't live in the same reality. I am just dealing in facts, I don't think any thinking person would disagree that we are in a Dark Age when it comes to artistic expression.. I am sure there are plenty who think Harry Potter is a great work of literature and that Kanye West is indeed the greatest artist of all time, but I would hope they are a minority.. Bottom line, our modding community has nothing to gain from the intrusion of Bethesda. They have shown us what they are offering. $1 weapons and $5 Crab Armor. Until I see something else from them I will be a pessimist because they have a history to live down. "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice...I won't get fooled again." - GW Bush Our community is releasing incredible content now without their help. None of you sellouts has yet to say what exactly the community has to gain from this. Its all about what Modders wallets will gain. You're confusing facts with your own personal views and hyperbole opinions. You might be unwilling to look at alle the positives but I think it's sad that you'd go as far as wanting to destroy something so potetially rewarding - not only for mod authors but for users too - just out of spite. And what exactly are we risking if it fails? Nothing. But you're not afraid of failure, you're afraid of paid mods succeeding. Because in your mind that translates to just the same quality of mods except now you got to pay for them, as if having to pay for work is a legitimate reason to be against it in the first place. But if we're being realistic rather than a bunch of pessimistic doomsayers it is a whole lot more likely that money and the responsbility it intails will lead to higher quality mods developed by more professional "modders" who would never work for free. This is the only fact that matters: You are entitled to nothing. "Our community" as you put it will be whatever we as individual modders make it out to be and only a hypocrite would pretend to dictate what is best for us as a collective. Paid mods is only a choice that each individual mod author can choose to pursue, and if you're against people making a choice then you should seriously reconsider your position. Yes and what are the benefits for users? We get the privilege of getting fleeced by Bethesda? Please lay it out for me. You can't because there are no benefits. Yes there are. More official content, yes, that you have to pay for, that does not eat into your mod space, doesn't come with any restrictions, and, for the PS4 crowd, can use external assets. It is, quite literally, Official DLC. No one is forcing you to buy it, no one is even forcing you to look at it. However, there just might be some really good content made available, for small price. There really is NO downside here. If you don't want the content, don't buy it. Did you buy Horse Armor for Oblivion? When you didn't, did a beth employee come to your house, and put a bullet in the back of your head? No? Ok, so, where is the problem?

Thank You! Someone that 'gets it'. CC is NOT going to be the end of free modding. It simply is. not. It can't be. Not only for the reasons pointed out by the destroyed spacecraft, but also because without free mods, beths pool of potential authors immediately dries up. I will grant that beth has made some less-than-appealing decisions in the past, but, I don't find it very likely that they are really looking to fall on their own swords.

Oh. Right, mod authors forced bethesda to come up with this system, because they are evil, greedy, capitalists...... No matter which way you slice it, beth was going to find a way to monetize mods. You have already seen it with paid mods 1.0. The new system will be MUCH less dramatic. Not just any tom dick or harry is going to be able to put a mod behind a paywall. MA's are simply becoming third-party contract workers for beth. It is BETH's system, they set it up, they made the rules. Mod Authors are simply taking a chance at an opportunity. If it weren't mod authors, it would be someone else in the game industry already.

Figured as much, not like you haven't been doing this for a while. :D But, had to ask anyway..... I would be tempted to put all the settings back to whatever the default is, disable steam overlay, and see what happens.

1. No. DOnations do NOT work. Ask any of the MANY modders that have the donate button on their mods, just how much they have gotten that way. 2. See #1. 3. See #1. 4. They get 100% now...... what are you proposing to do with the rest? 5. Aren't various agencies doing THAT already as well? 6. There will still be free mods for all platforms, regardless of CC. Beth isn't involved in "Your" community. They have their own. Their site, their games, their rules. This IS going to happen, whether you support it or not, so, if nothing else, you should at least 'accept' it, as you simply don't get a choice in the matter. Now, no one is saying that you actually have to purchase any of the CC content. The "vote with your wallet" thing, and THAT is perfectly acceptable too. If you don't like it, don't use it. It really is that easy.

not the same at all. if you are a musician that takes part in informal jam sessions with like minded people you don't suddenly demand that people who can hear you have to pay. you played because it was fun and you enjoyed it, even though it involved the time taken learning how to play and might even be difficult at times. other people may well have enjoyed listening, dancing and or singing along, but that was a byproduct of your hobby, you haven't lost anything. as a semi professional musician I can tell you that the music industry is a dirtier place than the gaming industry. the people in the suits control the product that gets pumped out on radio stations. music has become a meaningless disposable product. it is one of the reasons that there haven't been many classic songs written in the last decade or so, and the few there are are usually from band's first albums (material they wrote BEFORE the music industry git their claws in them). but that is a whole different rant. I don't have any of my records or CDs anymore because I gave them to my friends who came to see me play from the beginning. but then they are all people who I either knew before who came to support me personally or people I first met at those early shows who I stayed friends with. a few really close friends even came on tours with us and we put them on our guest list. Please point out to me where mod authors are demanding anything. This is beth OFFERING to pay mod authors for their efforts, and in the end, release OFFICIAL content. The garage band analogy applies quite accurately. It's not Rocket Science bud, Putting mods behind a paywall is demanding money. Then you should be looking at Beth, not the mod authors.

I nominate the above as absolute proof that stupidity is infinite punishment. After 45 years of forcing free market capitalism to compete with totalitarian Communism our federal government and those of most other Western democracies lie in economic shambles or outright de facto bankruptcy. It will never cease to amaze me that anyone can look at the trade charts and claim any possibility exists that they're "good" for our country. Congress fights to raise debt limits simply to service the interest on our debt, while 80% of American families are now subsisting from paycheck to paycheck. But, the top 5% of the population are doing just peachy, and THOSE are the folks that are more 'in control' than our government is. They pretty much own the government. The folks in washington DC haven't done "what is right for the country" in decades, they do what puts the most money in their own pocket, regardless of the consequences to the country. And the spin-factory in DC can also point at the GDP and say "Looky looky, it's going UP, it has NEVER been this high before." Even though the wealth divide is ever widening, the middle class is disappearing, and most of our manufacturing is now in countries that, when it comes right down to it, are our ENEMIES...... Brilliant strategy, eh?

So far as I know, the reputation there is absolutely meaningless. It only displays on some hard-to-find page, that most folks will never see.... Personally, I think it is a holdover from the original design, and they just haven't been bothered enough to remove it yet.

I saw a thread about this relatively recently, and there was actually a fix, but, for the life of me, I can't find it now....... I had thought it was on the beth forums, but, doesn't appear to be there now. (this was just in the last couple days.....) I tired a google search, and saw some stuff for FO3...... and a lot of the fixes was stuff you have already tried...... Unfortunately, there simply was not a lot of results..... I really hate to ask this... but, you do have FOSE installed in the same folder as Fallout4.exe, right? (please don't hit me. :D )