Eeyup. But what boggles me most is, why do women act like that? Let's hope that Naomis will jump in and give me an answer, she's smart (well, someone around here has to be ;D) and I really want to know. My suggestion is, get on your knees and... @ M48A5 you mean the one "If you don't know, I'm not gonna tell you..."??? We know you men have the memories of fleas when it comes to the important stuff like putting out the trash, remembering the toilet seat etc etc.. I could go on, but I don't want to give too much away to those young ladies who still don't know all the things men forget, enjoy the lessons :) The point I'm trying to make, you're normally in trouble for either forgetting the little things and never remembering the really big things ie birthdays, anniversaries etc etc If none of the above apply then its definitely hormones for us poor women :)