Super fast travel Hyperloop transport system

[Thor.]

You cant judge a product thats not even released yet, Augest 12 is the true reveal. Only then we can truly debate what this technology can and cant do.

Edited July 26, 2013 by Thor.

[Vindekarr]

You're assuming he'll tell us the truth on August 12 and that that will be the finalised date.

[JimboUK]

You cant judge a product thats not even released yet, Augest 12 is the true reveal. Only then we can truly debate what this technology can and cant do.

 

He'll either unveil something completely different or he'll try and defy the laws of physics.

[Lisnpuppy]

You cant judge a product thats not even released yet, Augest 12 is the true reveal. Only then we can truly debate what this technology can and cant do.

Then why start a debate before he has his press conference?

[HeyYou]

For a lot of the same reasons we have seen in this thread.

 

No way on gods little green acre he can do it for the money he says. Given the engineering complications...... I think I am going to change sides here, and agree with the folks that flatly state it simply can't be done.

 

Granted, we don't have a lot of details here.... he 'says' he isn't going to use an evacuated tube... how then does he propose to reach 4K MPH? and if he can only accelerate at .25g...... he will never reach that speed, even on a cross country trip, as he can only slow down at that rate as well.... half the trip will be spent accelerating, the other half, decelerating. (granted, I find that restriction somewhat difficult to understand, given that you can buy a friggin' car that accelerates at better than 1g......)

[Lisnpuppy]

What I am saying is that Thor doesn't seem to wish us to make suppositions about the probable ways that this is going to be presented....saying that we can not have a true debate until we hear the presentation.

 

It is illogical to make a debate and ask if we think it can or can't be done..based only on the information available at present. Then when lots of reasons are given in the issues this may have..based on the information present...that Thor then says it can not be debated until all the info is out.

 

I found it funny as it makes no sense to me.

[Thor.]

True debate ?? i am not stopping anyone from debating, just that we have no facts behind the debate. We can argue or even speculate what this hyperloop technology really works. We have no hard conclusive facts yet that it even exists yet, other then one persons word. Again i am not stopping anyone from debating this subject.

 

We do have video's and other media to have a valid idea on what this technology is capable of, just that we don't have any solid facts yet other then youtube videos and ETT???

 

That's one reason would like to wait until the 12th of August

 

this debate could be thrown out the window if it turns out to be a hoax :huh:

Edited July 26, 2013 by Thor.

[Vagrant0]

True debate ?? i am not stopping anyone from debating, just that we have no facts behind the debate. We can argue or even speculate what this hyperloop technology really works. We have no hard conclusive facts yet that it even exists yet, other then one persons word. Again i am not stopping anyone from debating this subject.

 

Here's the thing, irrespective of it actually working, irrespective of it being safe or economical; to establish the network needed in order to actually make use of any of the supposed applications, would, flat out, be a civil project that relatively few countries could even dream of beginning. Even if it's privately funded, to run any sort of transportation lines between cities would require either significant retrofitting to existing highways (which are likely too curvy to be practical in most of the country) or purchasing and clearing large tracts of land. Then building those networks over the course of several months (years after land disputes) before any actual use of those networks could be made. It doesn't matter on the actual size of whatever pathways are used, how they're constructed, what shape they are, what they're made of, if they are meant to be built between 2 places over any real distance, it will require a large amount of property being purchased, construction, and shipping and production of those materials to build that network. Even if they were pre-cast steel reinforced concrete tube sections similar to what most places use for sewage piping, it would still be a project several times larger than anything seen on this planet since the days of Rome. Even if using existing infastructure in any way, you'd be interrupting services through those lines for long periods of time. That's just the raw logistics of it.

 

That said, to accept the cost of all those things based on blind faith that it would be economical or safe once brought to full scale, I think it might be delusional to the point of establishing a new definition for the word. I don't care what history the person proposing this may have, I don't care how many investors are behind them, there are just too many factors to make this entirely impractical within the next 10 years in any Western country.

[JimboUK]

Towns in the way would have a vested interest in this not working, they'd lose rail and road traffic and gain nothing whatsoever from the new system.

[Thor.]

I am not as skeptical as you guys, i think if you put your mind to it, anything is possible :smile: