Do Aliens Exist: The Great Debate

[Thor.]

That article still doesn't explain Lions and tigers, but lions could be the real cats, but the smaller ones could be the aliens. Except for Lions and tigers and other big cats you see in the wild.

Edited August 21, 2013 by Thor.

[Ironman5000]

Yeeaahh because cats are so intelligently superior...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaEbpndntsU

[Thor.]

A simple malfunction, or the driver is drunker then all get out :teehee: or high on to much oxygen. :blink:

Edited August 21, 2013 by Thor.

[Ironman5000]

So even aliens have dodgy software! Not so smart after all eh? :tongue:

[Thor.]

proof cats are no friends with dogs.

ALIENS!!!!

 

[Maharg67]

 

 

I do not expect you, or anybody, to believe what I have written but hopefully just to question various easy assumptions such as projecting human logic onto something that is outside of that.

 

The supposed 'logical answer' that you have given has already been challenged by a series of theories (not facts!) that I have found or have worked out myself.

 

The ETs are not of one species but are various species.

 

The ETs have been adapting themselves to our world, going through a process of forced evolution using very advanced technologies, so as to try to enhance their chances of survival here; encounters have often been with prototype bodies that often failed.

 

Their actual world might, for instance, be one in which they dwell in some kinds of liquid that supports their bodies, including the heads, which could explain the false looking 'puppet like' movements of the head.

 

One interesting idea was that both ETs, and their flying-saucers, can not actually be picked up with any human form of human technological recording because they are here, but not totally here, being out of phase. Our brains can adjust input of data so that we actually see something solid but cameras can not do so; we partly see the truth but also 'create it'. In such case the actual recorded events may have all been altered to give some idea of what had taken place for archives, superiors, colleques etc. This would explain a 'fake' look of any alien. This would also explain why people see flying saucers but camera recordings only show blurry, undefined shapes.

 

The ETs are not humans so human logic simply may not not fit with them.

 

Please only positive responses!

 

 

If the bodies were prototype, soap bubble and all that, then they would be looking more human as time goes on, not less. Instead representations are falling closer and closer to Hollywood representations.

 

Fluidic environment doesn't account for the lack of muscle twitch or other evidence of organic structures. It also wouldn't explain why they would leave that environment in an unsuited body just to peek through someone's window.

 

The quantum reality argument (things are shaped by the perspective of those who look at it) is just too convenient here. While, yes, what our eyes see and what our brain interprets may not always match, there is still some measure of consistency once the brain has enough of a framework to utilize. In regards to video images though, there is no evidence to support this idea, and is clearly discounted when looking through a number of "official" images where the geometry of those objects or figures is clearly defined.

 

 

Even if there were as many as a dozen or so species, there would be definable traits associated with those species that would set them apart from each other. Instead what we see is some re-occuring themes within almost every report, but everything else is different. To give it an analog, consider bird species. Even from a blurred photograph you can usually identify a species of bird based on its collection of specific traits, or group them into families because there are clear definitions between those species... However if you ask someone to draw or model a bird, what you get is usually a generalized representation which may be a collection of traits from any number of species depending on how how well defined that individuals definition of a bird is. We see the same sort of thing happening here, where a shown alien being has only a vague similarity to other alien beings shown before or since. The most reasonable reason as to why each instance looks to be manufactured to fit the definitions of an individual or group, is probably because each instance is manufactured as people try to create more believable hoaxes for fame and fortune.

 

I think you make too many assumptions!

 

I said that the ETs might be adapting to our environment but not to looking like us. As to looking like Hollywood representations, just what does that mean since Hollywood is going through a technical process of making special effects more 'real seeming'. The ETs would have their own agendas and would may simply not care how they appear to us beyond a basic representational appearance.

 

Lack of muscle twitch could easily have nothing to do with what sort of fluidic environment they came from. The ET bodies could easily be of very alien make to us. Thus they have no 'muscle twitch' because they have no muscular system as we know of such things. I brought up the fluid environment idea to explain the puppet like movements of the ET body trying to tackle our non fluidic environment.

 

I disagree that the transdimensional concept is too convenient; one reason it is not too convenient is it is easy for people to state that it is 'too convenient'. I would not narrow down such issues to just 'quantum reality' for I am addressing issues that we have just begun to investigate. As for how the brain works, the same answer goes there. We are still getting surprises as we learn how our brains work, just how we deal with 'reality'. The example I chose to give was probably far too simplistic but I find it hard to put many of my mental concepts into words. The problems of our perceptions of transdimensional phenomena may go further than just our brains but also in the way environmental shifts effect our brains. Transdimensional events could easily effect our perceptions. In other words we need to think laterally if we are dealing with any concepts of ETs and to realise that we are 'children' when its comes to understanding existence and our part in it. We will not necessarily decide that the ETs are real.

 

I have to go but will respond to your last point when I can. I wrote much of this is a hurry as something came up suddenly and may have to rewrite it.

[kleinstaff]

look at some stats

 

99% of all life on this planet is extinct and only one species has ever developed tools and the intelligence to improve those tools

 

thats something of 0.00001%

 

thus i do believe life does exsist on other planets in the universe th chances of those planets to have a life form that has developed interstellar spaceflight is even lower

 

now ask yourself if you were a space explorer looking for inteeligent life why would you visit eart , overcrowded low on resources and on the brink of selfdestructing and most of all xenofobic

[Thor.]

What about the existence of a possible second human like race that resemble our own, until we have that 1m picture can we say we are the only ones that may or may not be intelligent on this planet.

 

Look in the oceans if you believe in the unknown. :mellow: like those youtube videos i showed earlier. Makes you wonder. There is allot of controversy, but why would they lie.

[bben46]

@Thor

 

OMG cats are aliens. I thought they where different, but aliens :dry:

I just confronted my cat with this - and she confirms it. :blush:

[rizon72]

@Thor

 

OMG cats are aliens. I thought they where different, but aliens :dry:

I just confronted my cat with this - and she confirms it. :blush:

Their plan is enslave humanity to serve them. Oh wait, that already happened. :ohmy: