Adipose Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 I play Survival Mode. More challenging and not as boring as other modes. Most of the extra fatality inducing events are to be expected. Up to level sixteen, still running about in vault suit and leather/steel gear, mostly 'cause it's not easy to come up with fusion cores...primarily due to the cost, plus I'm still in the process of developing settlements at Sanctuary and Red Rocket. Still running about up north of Lexington for the most part. Spend a lot of time hunting for the pot. Still exploring while hunting, due to the presence of several incidental little source spots for goodies. Frequently those are Mole Rat traps. I can handle those and they're a good source of meat, hides and chemicals. Currently focusing on area between Red Rocket south of Sanctuary and the Revere Satellite Array. Came across a corpse pile and, while looting the dead, tripped a Mole Rat trap. Dealt with them handily though they were swarming me. Now comes the unreasonable part. As soon as the rats were dealt with and I'm in the process of looting them, up jumped two ghouls right out of the ground. Nailed one but there was a Glowing One right behind me. Put two shotgun rounds in it and then I was down for the count. Ghouls popping up out of the ground is unreasonable. Particularly when one is of the Glowing persuasion. They're not rats. They got no ability to survive while buried in the dirt. Further, Glowing Ones tend to be a challenge at just about any level, so I think they're out of place anywhere north of Concord. Okay, all finished with my whiny rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouDoNotKnowMyName Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Ghouls appearing out of the ground?That has never happened to me .... What mods do you have running? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoNin1971 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Ghouls appearing out of the ground?That has never happened to me .... What mods do you have running?That's actually true, for the base game. I have seen it happen many times, without mods.Never the 'ground' itself though, but dirtpiles and rubble and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarannKiar Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Ghouls popping up out of the ground is unreasonable. Ghouls appearing out of the ground?That has never happened to me .... What mods do you have running? I guess he's talking about the AmbushFeralGhoulFromUnder [FormID: 0009FE6A], some of them are placed underground (such as the reference 000785FE). I don't know whose idea was to make an undergound marker for a creature that most likely requires oxygen but it's surely not a feature of the survival mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoNin1971 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 It feels a little out of place, as the ghouls from fallout are supposed to be 'alive' but mutated by radiation, instead of 'undead/zombies'.So they shouldn't be crawling out of graves and such. ...but consistency is not a thing for Beth it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tm10067 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 There are some places where they stay hidden and then pop out from dirt, rubble, windows, roofs. It seems okayish for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouDoNotKnowMyName Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Yes, I know what you mean now.Like at the enterance of the "old corner bookstore" (near goodneighbor). I always like to think that they are just laying / sitting there, doing nothing for years / decades and over time, dirt and debris just accumulates "over them".So they don't actively dig themselves into the ground like molerats or radscorpions. But that is just what I imagine actually would happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showler Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Kid in the fridge changes the rules for Ghouls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouDoNotKnowMyName Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Kid in the fridge changes the rules for Ghouls.#ChangeTheRulesForGhouls (That sounds like it could be an actual in-game thing, because ghouls are not allowed in diamond city and all of that ...) Sorry, I just had to ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showler Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Hancock: Too Ghoul for Rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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