Cannot select some objects in console

[hucker75]

Why is it when I click on some objects while in the console, I either get an error message, nothing at all, or it's as though I clicked on something miles behind it?

[LarannKiar]

Why is it when I click on some objects while in the console, I either get an error message, nothing at all

 

You can only select Object References in the console. Not everything is selectable (i.e. ground pieces, sky, inventory items: worn armors, weapons).

 

or it's as though I clicked on something miles behind it?

 

There are selectable "invisible" Object References (i.e. light sources). Among other reasons, this is why it's important to check what you selected.

[HeyYou]

Yeah, I have this problem as well. Some vines I simply cannot scrap, or even select in the console. Even though all the other vines, RIGHT NEXT TO IT, I am able to dispose of...... Same with corpses. It seems the game doesn't wanna clean up the dead around starlight drive-in for me, so every now and again, I will go thru and scrap them, if I can, disable them if I cannot. But, some of them, I simply cannot select, and I have no idea why. (can't select to either scrap, or in the console....)

[LarannKiar]

Yeah, I have this problem as well. Some vines I simply cannot scrap, or even select in the console. Even though all the other vines, RIGHT NEXT TO IT,

 

Not all of them are scrappable unfurtonautely.. the designers forgot about some.

[xrayy]

i suppose you all know about fo4 built in performance optimization via previs/precombines? this is the reason why many static objects are not scrapable by default. you can circumvent this by changing ini settings (as some scrap mods recommend). but performancewise this is a bad idea. destoying precombines means a huge incease of drawcalls while rendering and this is the bottleneck responsible for loss of fps in complex scenes even with good hardware. the more scrapped precombines(=destroyed optimized objects) the lower the game rendering performance. i wrote a guide for that issue. you may read it or not.

[hucker75]

I use scrap everything mod, which seems to break up most precombines. I like to completely clear a settlement then build on plain land. Sometimes it even lets me scrap in the middle of the commonwealth. I didn't notice any drop in fps, but I have a decent system. How much would it hurt to use the ini file setting? And please tell me what it is so I can experiment.

[xrayy]

if you click the my link and read the tutorial your questions will be answered and you will be able to check the limits while gaming.

if you have any additional questions after reading the tutorial feel free to ask or take a look into the mod thread.

[hucker75]

I assume you mean I should try changing these to 0?

 

"check Fallout ini files for bUseCombinedObjects=1 and bUsePreCreatedSCOL=1 (activated)"

 

But I see problem using this here: https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/6300561-busecombinedobjects0-conflicts/

Edited December 22, 2021 by hucker75

[Blinxys]

@xrayy That is a very useful post indeed! Thanks for the resource, may take a few hours/days to digest and/or test/implement, some items seem a little dated, but all awesomeness to you! :thumbsup:

[HeyYou]

Scrap Everything doesn't do the ini edit any more. (at least, not the version I am using, it might be an option in the installer though....) It DOES remove previs/precombines in settlement areas though. In places like Hangmans Alley, that may be a problem, but, I don't know, as I never do anything there anyway.

 

But even so, I am thinkin' that dead raiders are not a part of previs/precombines in any event.... They were random patrols (added by PANPC I suspect). So, why I can't scrap/select them in the console, is still a mystery to me. :D