Purify111 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) Hello friends,it's been a long time since i've been here but i'm happy that the community is still running strong. I will cut it to the chase. I recently upgraded my rig. Practically built a PC cause almost all parts are new. The game basically plays at 0-30 fps max. Most of the time it's under 30. I think somehow i managed to fix that maybe by lowering the resolution but when i start moving my character the fps drops again. I'm not trying to achieve something incredible here but this totally ruins my experience.I have the game installed on an HDD instead of an SDD.I don't know if that makes a difference.So here are my specs:Motherboard MSI B550-A ProProcessor:Amd Ryzen 5 5600XGPU: AMD 6600 Eagle 8GBRam:Adata (16GB 2x8GB)Monitor:I use a TV screen with a resolution 1366 x 768 and i don't know it's refresh rate but on the back it says 50-60Hz but that might be something concerning the voltageMods i use:This is my bedCompanion Infinite ammo Here is what i've tried:I disabled the controller and vibration in the optionsIn all configuration files i could find i turned iPresentInterval=0 and i capped fps with AMD Adrenaline Edition with Radeon ChillGodrays are set to low. I can't disable them completely Something to note:I have loaded old save files on which i have a lot of progression and they were intially created from the older PC. Edited February 7, 2023 by Purify111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 You should get much better performance than that with that hardware. What version of windows are you running, and are your graphics drivers properly installed? May also wanna look at what device manager things your monitor is..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surg23 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 Running it on a HDD instead of SSD won't make that much difference in terms of average frames so it's not that. Have you checked to see if it's actually using your card and not IGP? In addition to trying different drivers, you should check your power/performance profiles for your card to make sure it's not throttling. Use some type of OSD while playing to record any useful data. Your monitor should be a minimum of 60hz. I would recommend setting the refresh rate in both your monitor and game to 59 or 60hz. Also disable any form of G-sync/Free-sync. It might also be helpful to list (in spoilers) your Fallout.ini, Falloutprefs.ini, Falloutcustom.ini Failing that and as a temporary fix add "uGridsToLoad=4" under General in your Fallout.ini, Falloutprefs.ini and FalloutCustom.ini. That might also help deduce what is going on with performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormWolf01 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 Running it on a HDD instead of SSD won't make that much difference in terms of average frames so it's not that. Have you checked to see if it's actually using your card and not IGP? In addition to trying different drivers, you should check your power/performance profiles for your card to make sure it's not throttling. Use some type of OSD while playing to record any useful data. Your monitor should be a minimum of 60hz. I would recommend setting the refresh rate in both your monitor and game to 59 or 60hz. Also disable any form of G-sync/Free-sync. It might also be helpful to list (in spoilers) your Fallout.ini, Falloutprefs.ini, Falloutcustom.ini Failing that and as a temporary fix add "uGridsToLoad=4" under General in your Fallout.ini, Falloutprefs.ini and FalloutCustom.ini. That might also help deduce what is going on with performance. Yeah, I was thinking the exact same thing, that the game may not be running off of the card.The very easiest way to tell would be to to let the game try to set the graphics settings and see what it tells you when it selects what it picks.Also agreed, power management settings may also be a problem. If this is a desktop PC, you can just turn power management completely off. You will get better WIFI stability by doing so, as well.Another thing to check, is to make sure that your monitor is plugged into the correct socket. There's two back there. If you plug into the wrong one, it will run as an auxiliary, instead of primary, at lower settings.Great advice there Surg! Let's see more of you around here! :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surg23 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 Running it on a HDD instead of SSD won't make that much difference in terms of average frames so it's not that. Have you checked to see if it's actually using your card and not IGP? In addition to trying different drivers, you should check your power/performance profiles for your card to make sure it's not throttling. Use some type of OSD while playing to record any useful data. Your monitor should be a minimum of 60hz. I would recommend setting the refresh rate in both your monitor and game to 59 or 60hz. Also disable any form of G-sync/Free-sync. It might also be helpful to list (in spoilers) your Fallout.ini, Falloutprefs.ini, Falloutcustom.ini Failing that and as a temporary fix add "uGridsToLoad=4" under General in your Fallout.ini, Falloutprefs.ini and FalloutCustom.ini. That might also help deduce what is going on with performance. Yeah, I was thinking the exact same thing, that the game may not be running off of the card.The very easiest way to tell would be to to let the game try to set the graphics settings and see what it tells you when it selects what it picks.Also agreed, power management settings may also be a problem. If this is a desktop PC, you can just turn power management completely off. You will get better WIFI stability by doing so, as well.Another thing to check, is to make sure that your monitor is plugged into the correct socket. There's two back there. If you plug into the wrong one, it will run as an auxiliary, instead of primary, at lower settings.Great advice there Surg! Let's see more of you around here! :thumbsup: Thanks StormWolf. Just some generic advice from a niff-nuff really lol. I'm not terribly good with this stuff myself, but thought it might be useful until the experts come in. Spend too much time playing games and forget a lot of things. Yeah it's definitely abnormal behaviour. I'm thinking his card should be good for at least 100fps at that resolution. Hopefully he gets it sorted. Appreciate the sentiment though StormWolf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purify111 Posted February 7, 2023 Author Share Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) Hey guys. Something i noticed just now. I haven't edited iPresentInterval=1 in the Fallout4Prefs.ini(in all other places it's still set to 0) so i did that.The game started playing well(after i capped the fps). I did maybe a couple of restarts to change some video settings and after a bit of wondering in the game it dropped back to under 10fps again. I opened Fallout4Prefs and iPresentInterval was once again set to 1. I also noticed that while the game was running normal, the GPU Utilization was about 20% maximum or so.When the frames dropped the utilization went up to 99% and as i'm writing right now it still holds that percentege according the AMD Adrenaline. What could be bringing iPresentInterval again to 1? Edited February 7, 2023 by Purify111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purify111 Posted February 7, 2023 Author Share Posted February 7, 2023 You should get much better performance than that with that hardware. What version of windows are you running, and are your graphics drivers properly installed? May also wanna look at what device manager things your monitor is.....Windows 10Pro. The drivers should be alright. I think they should be installed correctly. The Device Manager shows it as a Generic PnP Monitor. I looked at the Display Properties and it should be 60 Hz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purify111 Posted February 7, 2023 Author Share Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) Running it on a HDD instead of SSD won't make that much difference in terms of average frames so it's not that. Have you checked to see if it's actually using your card and not IGP? In addition to trying different drivers, you should check your power/performance profiles for your card to make sure it's not throttling. Use some type of OSD while playing to record any useful data. Your monitor should be a minimum of 60hz. I would recommend setting the refresh rate in both your monitor and game to 59 or 60hz. Also disable any form of G-sync/Free-sync. It might also be helpful to list (in spoilers) your Fallout.ini, Falloutprefs.ini, Falloutcustom.ini Failing that and as a temporary fix add "uGridsToLoad=4" under General in your Fallout.ini, Falloutprefs.ini and FalloutCustom.ini. That might also help deduce what is going on with performance. It's definitely running in the GPU. I don't have an IGP. Even though when i choose for the game to reset the settings it says it doesn't identify my video hardware. Here are the .ini files Fallout4.ini[General]sLanguage=enuGridsToLoad=5uExterior Cell Buffer=36bDisableAllGore=0 [screenSplatter]bBloodSplatterEnabled=1 [Display]iPresentInterval=0bDeferredCommands=1fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000.0fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=2000.0fLightLODMaxStartFade=3500.0iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048bAllowScreenshot=1fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=3500.0000fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=2000.0000fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000bNvGodraysEnable=1bDynamicObjectQueryManager=1bMultiThreadedAccumulation=1bMultiThreadedRenderingUNP=1 fSAORadius=108.2fSAOBias=0.6fSAOIntensity=7.1 fSunUpdateThreshold:Display=0.5ffSunShadowUpdateTime=1.0 [HairLighting]fHairPrimSpecScale=0.02fHairPrimSpecPow=125.0fHairPrimSpecShift=0.36fHairSecSpecScale=1.2fHairSecSpecPow=160.0fHairSecSpecShift=-0.40 [sSSSS]fSSSSSPower = 4.0 [Audio]bEnableAudio=1 [interface]fDefaultWorldFOV=70fDefault1stPersonFOV=80fSafeZoneX=15.0fSafeZoneY=15.0fSafeZoneXWide=64.0fSafeZoneYWid=36.0fSafeZoneXWide16x10=64.0fSafeZoneYWide16x10=36.0 [MapMenu]uLockedObjectMapLOD=16uLockedTerrainLOD=32 [Controls]fMouseHeadingXScale=.021fMouseHeadingYScale=.021 [Grass]iMinGrassSize=20bAllowCreateGrass=1 [imageSpace]bDoRadialBlur=1 [Weather]bPrecipitation=1 [Archive]sResourceIndexFileList=Fallout4 - Textures1.ba2, Fallout4 - Textures2.ba2, Fallout4 - Textures3.ba2, Fallout4 - Textures4.ba2, Fallout4 - Textures5.ba2, Fallout4 - Textures6.ba2, Fallout4 - Textures7.ba2, Fallout4 - Textures8.ba2, Fallout4 - Textures9.ba2sResourceStartUpArchiveList=Fallout4 - Startup.ba2, Fallout4 - Shaders.ba2, Fallout4 - Interface.ba2SResourceArchiveList=Fallout4 - Voices.ba2, Fallout4 - Meshes.ba2, Fallout4 - MeshesExtra.ba2, Fallout4 - Misc.ba2, Fallout4 - Sounds.ba2, Fallout4 - Materials.ba2SResourceArchiveList2=Fallout4 - Animations.ba2sResourceDataDirsFinal=STRINGS\SGeometryPackageList=Fallout4 - Geometry.csgSCellResourceIndexFileList=Fallout4.cdxSResourceArchiveMemoryCacheList= Fallout4 - Misc.ba2, Fallout4 - Shaders.ba2, Fallout4 - Interface.ba2, Fallout4 - Materials.ba2 [Papyrus]fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0bEnableLogging=0bEnableTrace=0bLoadDebugInformation=0 [LOD]fLODFadeOutMultObjects=4.5000fLODFadeOutMultItems=2.5000 [Pathfinding]fWarpMaxTime=4iWarpMaxPathFailureCount=3[Water]bReflectLODObjects=0bReflectLODLand=0bReflectSky=0bReflectLODTrees=0 Fallout4Prefs[Display]sD3DDevice="AMD Radeon RX 6600"iTexMipMapSkip=0bEnableWetnessMaterials=1bEnableRainOcclusion=1bSAOEnable=1iShadowMapResolution=2048uiShadowFilter=2uiOrthoShadowFilter=2fBlendSplitDirShadow=48iMaxFocusShadows=2iMaxFocusShadowsDialogue=4fShadowDistance=3000fDirShadowDistance=3000iDirShadowSplits=2iMaxDecalsPerFrame=10iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=3bVolumetricLightingEnable=1iVolumetricLightingQuality=1bForceIgnoreSmoothness=1fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=6000fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=3000iAdapter=0iSize W=1366iSize H=768sAntiAliasing=FXAAiMaxAnisotropy=8iPresentInterval=0bFull Screen=1bBorderless=1flocalShadowMapHalveEveryXUnit=750.0000focusShadowMapDoubleEveryXUnit=450.0000fShadowBiasScale=1.0000uPipboyTargetHeight=700uPipboyTargetWidth=876bVolumetricLightingForceCasters=0iTiledLightingMinLights=40bComputeShaderDeferredTiledLighting=1bSinglePassDirShadow=1fTessFactorMaxDistanceScale=100.0000fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd=4600.0000fLeafAnimDampenDistStart=3600.0000fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault=256.0000fMeshLODFadeScalar=1.0000fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=2048.0000fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=2844.0000fInteriorMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=1950.0000fInteriorMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=2600.0000bTopMostWindow=0bMaximizeWindow=0bAllowShadowcasterNPCLights=0iScreenShotIndex=0fMaxFocusShadowMapDistance=450.0000bPrecipitationOcclusion=1[LightingShader]bScreenSpaceReflections=1bScreenSpaceSubsurfaceScattering=0[imagespace]bMBEnable=1bLensFlare=1bDoDepthOfField=1bScreenSpaceBokeh=1[LOD]fLODFadeOutMultActors=6fLODFadeOutMultItems=2.575fLODFadeOutMultObjects=7fLODFadeOutMultSkyCell=1.0000[Grass]fGrassStartFadeDistance=2000fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=7000.0000fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=1000.0000[NVHBAO]bEnable=0fBackgroundAOViewDepth=750.0000bBackgroundAOEnable=1fDepthThresholdSharpness=100.0000fDepthThresholdMaxViewDepth=500.0000bDepthThresholdEnable=0iDepthClampModeEnum=0fCoarseAO=1.0000fDetailAO=0.6500fBlurSharpnessProfileBackgroundViewDepth=1.0000fBlurSharpnessProfileForegroundViewDepth=0.0000fBlurSharpnessProfileForegroundSharpnessScale=4.0000bBlurSharpnessProfileEnable=0fBlurSharpness=16.0000iBlurRadiusEnum=1bBlurEnable=1fPowerExponent=2.5000fBias=0.1000fRadius=0.6500[Decals]bDecals=1bSkinnedDecals=1uMaxDecals=100uMaxSkinDecals=35uMaxSkinDecalsPerActor=20[TerrainManager]fTreeLoadDistance=75000fBlockMaximumDistance=100000fBlockLevel2Distance=80000fBlockLevel1Distance=32000fBlockLevel0Distance=20000fSplitDistanceMult=1.1bShowLODInEditor=0[NVFlex]bNVFlexEnable=0iQuality=0iMaxNeighbors2=64iMaxNeighbors1=48iMaxNeighbors0=32iMaxParticles2=32768iMaxParticles1=16000iMaxParticles0=6000fKillRadius2=4000.0000fKillRadius1=3000.0000fKillRadius0=2000.0000bNVFlexInstanceDebris=1bNVFlexDrawDebris=1[blurShaderHDR]bDoHighDynamicRange=0[blurShader]bUseBlurShader=0[Launcher]uLastAspectRatio=1[Pipboy]fPipboyEffectColorB=1.0000fPipboyEffectColorG=1.0000fPipboyEffectColorR=1.0000[VATS]fModMenuEffectHighlightPAColorB=0.4100fModMenuEffectHighlightPAColorG=0.8200fModMenuEffectHighlightPAColorR=1.0000fModMenuEffectPAColorB=0.4100fModMenuEffectPAColorG=0.8200fModMenuEffectPAColorR=1.0000fModMenuEffectHighlightColorB=0.0050fModMenuEffectHighlightColorG=0.7500fModMenuEffectHighlightColorR=0.3000fModMenuEffectColorB=0.0050fModMenuEffectColorG=0.7500fModMenuEffectColorR=0.3000[MAIN]fSkyCellRefFadeDistance=150000.0000bCrosshairEnabled=1fHUDOpacity=1.0000bSaveOnPause=1bSaveOnTravel=1bSaveOnWait=1bSaveOnRest=1[General]bGamepadEnable=0bPipboyCompanionEnabled=0iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0uGridsToLoad=5[interface]bDialogueSubtitles=1bGeneralSubtitles=1iHUDColorB=1iHUDColorG=191iHUDColorR=76bDialogueCameraEnable=1bShowCompass=1uHUDActiveEffectWidget=2[Controls]fMouseHeadingSensitivity=0.0300fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=0.6667bAlwaysRunByDefault=1bInvertYValues=0bGamePadRumble=0[GamePlay]iDifficulty=2bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=1bShowQuestMarkers=1[Particles]iMaxDesired=750[saveGame]fAutosaveEveryXMins=10.0000[AudioMenu]fAudioMasterVolume=0.7715fVal7=1.0000uID7=0fVal6=1.0000uID6=0fVal5=1.0000uID5=0fVal4=0.6500uID4=138006fVal3=0.6500uID3=1007612fVal2=1.0000uID2=94881fVal1=0.6500uID1=466532fVal0=0.6500uID0=554685[Water]bUseWaterDisplacements=1bUseWaterRefractions=1bUseWaterReflections=1bUseWaterDepth=1 Fallout4Custom[General]SLocalSavePath=Saves\[Display]iLocation X=0iLocation Y=0 Edited February 7, 2023 by Purify111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surg23 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) Hey, For lack of better options/knowledge I would suggest that you backup all the ini files in your Fallout 4 Documents folder, delete the existing files and let the game generate new ones. Alternatively set the iPresentInterval=0 in each .ini file and then set each file to Read Only. Actually it might be best the regenerate the files first then use the following step. PS. Regarding the card detection problem, you might need to create and configure a profile for the game manually using your driver software. Edited February 7, 2023 by surg23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 Yeah, if the card is newer than what the game has info for, it won't identify it..... What background processes are running? (Task manager, startup tab.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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