JainaSolo25 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 I recently installed a decent number of mods, although I'm not entirely sure which ones were the recent additions. Before it, things worked fine, especially after the thing which disabled all the loading screen animations. Now the game often doesn't start properly, crashes during gameplay on a regular basis (especially when moving between areas or fast traveling. I've had it crash while fast traveling to the same location like 4 times in a row before I gave up and fast traveled to a nearby location). It's anywhere from every 2 to 15 minutes, and the game also has a fair amount of lag in a lot of areas. I disabled NPCs travel, A Little Bit of Green, True Storms, and Illuminated Billboard things in hopes that would help. I currently have (bolded are the newer ones)Achievements v1-0-5 (to have achievements with mods)All-In-One Better Mod DescriptionsBaby don't run away (Merchants won't leave stores randomly for good)Better Armory ModBetter Junk FencesBetter Locational DamageBetter Settlers v2.0 DLC Master FOMODBetter Signs for Workshop Vendor CountersBrighter Settlement Lights v1.2Carry Weight Modifications - NMM Installer - Default and Bonus Carry WeightCleanSettlements-Clean VendorsCompanion Infinite Ammo - SINGLEEasy LockpickingFallout 4 Enhanced Color Correction - F4ECC - 1.2F4SEFaster Terminal Displays (20x) Creation Kit VersionFaster Workshop 1.1Fixed Alpha MapsFogOutFull Dialogue Interface etc etc + LOOKUP FAILED fixFunctional Displays etc etcGlowing Bobbleheads NMM Fomod InstallHigh FPS Physics FixImmersive VendorsImproved Map with Visible Roads 2.0Items Weightless - Aid-Misc-JunkLonger Power Lines x3Loot Detector (ESP for NMM)No Aggro Impact LandingPlace Everywhere - Place etcScrap Everything 2.5.5Settlement Supplies ExpandedSpring Cleaning 2.05This Settlement Does Not Need Your Help etc...Trove - Immersive Caps StashesUncapped Settlement SurplusUnofficial Fallout 4 PatchVendor CapsVisible Companion Affinity v4.141 ENVivid Fallout - All in One - Best ChoiceWe Are The MinutemenWorkshop Framework If anyone has any ideas what could be going wrong, I would greatly appreciate it. The game is becoming unplayable and I would like to actually finish my first run at some point so I don't regret it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepperman35 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Load order issues? Corrupted save? Have you tried the above on a fresh start (clean save)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JainaSolo25 Posted February 19, 2023 Author Share Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) I have not. I use the Nexus Mods manager so load order should be automatically assigned in the best way, right?The one error that does keep coming up is missing masters for the scrap everything, the ESL things. I don't know what that means but could this be the source of the problem?I can try it on a fresh save but I definitely have no interest in replaying from the start. The way the game behaves when opening it makes me think the issue is with the mods and not a corrupted save cause even opening the game becomes problematic. Edited February 19, 2023 by JainaSolo25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 If you are using NMM, then, I think you have to manually run LOOT. If you are using Vortex, it automagically deals with load order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JainaSolo25 Posted February 19, 2023 Author Share Posted February 19, 2023 If you are using NMM, then, I think you have to manually run LOOT. If you are using Vortex, it automagically deals with load order.I'm using Vortex. What are NMM and LOOT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 If you are using NMM, then, I think you have to manually run LOOT. If you are using Vortex, it automagically deals with load order.I'm using Vortex. What are NMM and LOOT? Vortex should automatically sort your load order then. Are you getting any notifications from Vortex about problems? NMM is Nexus Mod Manager. It was replaced by Vortex. Loot is the rules-based load order tool, vortex just does it, you had to tell NMM to do it. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JainaSolo25 Posted February 20, 2023 Author Share Posted February 20, 2023 I got rid of FogOut and it's *better* but now I'm getting a lot of freezing and the fog doesn't seem to be back. Which is weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JainaSolo25 Posted February 20, 2023 Author Share Posted February 20, 2023 Only problem Vortex is pointing out is the Missing Masters thing for ScrapEverything which I mentioned above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrayy Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 scrap everything is a mess of mod and a potential risk to destroy your performance and your game if do not know exactly what you can do and destroy with it.if you love stable gameplay and you do not know exactly what previs precombines are and what they do - just avoid these kind of mods not working together with activated previs/precombines!if you ignore the warnings feel free to destroy your game and learn it the hard way. check Fallout ini files for bUseCombinedObjects=1 and bUsePreCreatedSCOL=1 (activated)this should prevent you from accidentally scrapping the wrong objects and give you best possible performance a "missing master" message is always a reason to expect ctd and instability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraquar Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 You should NOT have Spring Cleaning in your load order - period. You'd need to start a new game to get rid of that.That mod was made well before the whole "Previs" and "Precombine" information was better understood.------Scrap Everything - that should be used in moderation - but ONLY if you know what you are doing.------Beyond that, I'd defer to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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