Need New PC. Open to Suggestions.

[barrettsfloyd]

Sorry folks, I didn't see a dedicated thread for this so here it goes.

 

As the title says, I am in need of replacing my 13 year old pc. Originally intended on waiting till TES VI came out, but clearly that's still a ways off, and this computer is on it's last leg. This pc will primarily be built with that game in mind...As far as I am aware, we do not have any idea of system requirements for it yet, but it's probably a fair bet that if it'll play Starfield, then it'll likely play TES VI too.

 

What I am thinking, is starting off with an Intel 14900K , but as my tech knowledge is 13 years out of date, I am open to suggestions for the CPU, Motherboard, and GPU.

 

Keep in mind when making suggestions, that I intend to run this PC as long as I did the one I am replacing. This is for the long haul.

[AaronOfMpls]

If you're in the US and there's a Micro Center near you, asking there is certainly an option, as is browsing their website.  They're still a better computer store than most, especially if you don't want to wait for things to ship. 

 

I'm reasonably tech-savvy but don't follow the latest-and-greatest hardware closely.  So when I was building a PC in early 2020 (right before COVID), I was in a similar situation.  I browsed a bit to see what was around at different price points, then gave a Micro Center salesperson some requirements for the kinds of things I was likely to run, and an approximate budget (assuming I'd likely go over the amount ), and got a decent PC out of it.  Though space constraints also limited my case choices (I wanted it to fit under a small desk), as did wanting a front drive bay for an optical drive (hard to find unless you're buying new-old-stock cases online now).  Which in turn limited what motherboards and graphics cards would fit inside it.

 

 

[barrettsfloyd]

Price isn't incredibly important to me...to a point. When I built my current pc, everything I put in it was pretty much top of the line at the time.  Not looking to break the bank. (it's going to hurt it anyway) but not looking to go cheap either. Like I said, this is for the long haul, so quality is important. GPU included, I'm  expecting to shell out at least $2000 for this, probably more. I am out of date on my Tech knowledge

 

No, I do not trust a salesperson to give me tech advice, sorry. All they want to do is make a sale. Nobody here has any skin in that game (even if they are a salesperson in real life), so that cuts out that mess.

 

Yes, I am in the States.

 

What I have already: Tower and PSU (850 watt).

What I can probably/hopefully re-use: Monitor, Sound Card, video card...temporarily till finances stabilize a bit.

 

When I was on the old Bethsoft.com forums, there were alot of good people there that I trusted to help out on hardware issues. I trust those here to make some good suggestions too.

[HeyYou]

i9 14900K

Asus ROG Strix motherboard.

64 gb RAM

RTX 4080 Super

850 watt 80 plus gold power supply. (EVGA makes good ones.)

Noctua NH-D15S chromax.black, Premium Dual-Tower CPU Cooler

500gb NVME 980 Pro SSD (O/S drive)

2TB NVME 980 Pro SSD (Game drive)

Case of your choice. Make sure it is big enough for the vid car, and deep enough for the cooler.

 

Right in the neighborhood of 2500 bucks.

[barrettsfloyd]

Thank you for the suggestions. I will be looking into these. Time is getting pretty short on this PC. It won't last much longer. One of these days it's going to crash and not come back.  At any rate, the tower I have, I believe, is a asus tuff gaming gt501. Bought it about a year or so ago in anticipation of the situation I currently find myself in it is roughly the same size as my Coolermaster tower I have now. The PSU I have  is a Thermaltake toughpower gf1 750 watt, not the 850 which I thought I had. If that's still not enough, I can get an 850 watt. That's not a very big big deal.

 

EDIT: Okay, so here is what I have come up with so far. let me know what you think, and if this will work with my tower and if my PSU will be sufficient.

https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-strix-z790-f-gaming-wifi/p/N82E16813119599?Item=N82E16813119599

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i9-14900k-core-i9-14th-gen/p/N82E16819118462?Item=N82E16819118462

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-500gb-mp600-pro-lpx/p/N82E16820236835?Item=N82E16820236835

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-2tb-mp600-pro-lpx/p/N82E16820236837?Item=N82E16820236837

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64gb/p/N82E16820374524?Item=N82E16820374524

https://www.newegg.com/noctua-nh-d15/p/N82E16835608045?Item=9SIA7ABJZT7030

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-4080-super-gv-n408swf3v2-16gd/p/N82E16814932672?Item=9SIB9ZZK8Z4554

 

Total: $2683.74. 

 In my cart waiting on me to buy them. If I need to make any changes, please, just say so. I will do what I can to correct it.

[363rdChemicalCompany]

So I am upgrading my desktop pretty soon and you and I are looking at a broadly similar budget and goal:

Had this same conversation with a local European computer builder store of good repute (I live in Europe now) 

My current rig which I want o upgrade when it comes in from the US:

i9 10900KF supported by 340mm liquid cooler, 

64GB of DDR 4RAM

2 T SSD and 4 T HDD

RTX 4070

850w Gold something PSU

So its not chopped lover as it sits, but I want and can afford more.

 

Upgrade plan

-Since I need a new mother board anyway, I will likely go away from Intel, likely take AMD Ryzen 78003d 78.

They claim it will not need liquid cooling will run for gaming as well or better than a 14900,  will run at half the power of the 14900KF that would have been my other choice,

-replace my DDR 4 with DDR5. stick with 64GB

-Switch my SSDs to the latest 990s form Samsung 

-Either keep my 4070 or go with 4080 Super

If I did not already have a 4070 that ran so well, a 4080 super would be a non brainer and I agree with this and all your other choices except, you may save money, bulk (less cooling) and electrical consumption with the AMD chip. I also know Intel only, so this will be my first AMD. Anyway just throwing this out there. Been an Intel guy my entire life but since i need a new MB anyway am expanding my horizons a bit.

[AaronOfMpls]

Yup, I've been mostly AMD myself since my old Windows 98 PC and its AMD K6.  Wasn't intentional, so much as how it worked out for my budget and requirements.  I suspect I've tended to get PCs when AMD was on top for value and power.

[HeyYou]

20 hours ago, barrettsfloyd said:

Thank you for the suggestions. I will be looking into these. Time is getting pretty short on this PC. It won't last much longer. One of these days it's going to crash and not come back.  At any rate, the tower I have, I believe, is a asus tuff gaming gt501. Bought it about a year or so ago in anticipation of the situation I currently find myself in it is roughly the same size as my Coolermaster tower I have now. The PSU I have  is a Thermaltake toughpower gf1 750 watt, not the 850 which I thought I had. If that's still not enough, I can get an 850 watt. That's not a very big big deal.

 

EDIT: Okay, so here is what I have come up with so far. let me know what you think, and if this will work with my tower and if my PSU will be sufficient.

https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-strix-z790-f-gaming-wifi/p/N82E16813119599?Item=N82E16813119599

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i9-14900k-core-i9-14th-gen/p/N82E16819118462?Item=N82E16819118462

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-500gb-mp600-pro-lpx/p/N82E16820236835?Item=N82E16820236835

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-2tb-mp600-pro-lpx/p/N82E16820236837?Item=N82E16820236837

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64gb/p/N82E16820374524?Item=N82E16820374524

https://www.newegg.com/noctua-nh-d15/p/N82E16835608045?Item=9SIA7ABJZT7030

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-4080-super-gv-n408swf3v2-16gd/p/N82E16814932672?Item=9SIB9ZZK8Z4554

 

Total: $2683.74. 

 In my cart waiting on me to buy them. If I need to make any changes, please, just say so. I will do what I can to correct it.

I like it. Just need a case to put it all in. That'll be a beast of a machine, and will last you for years. :D

[7531Leonidas]

@barrettsfloyd Just for comparative info, and to help you judge how to set up your Skyrim - am running a Sapphire 7900 xtx w/24 gb on it.  My display is 3840x2160, and I run texture enhancements, mostly the downscaled 4x Pfuscher's stuff, and clothes/armor/skin textures.  Skyrim Performance Monitor shows up to 18+ gb used on the card, and another 10+ gb of shared memory, but my card is pretty much coasting otherwise.  So, watch out for your memory load when deciding what/how to 'prettify' your game...

[barrettsfloyd]

Just now, 7531Leonidas said:

@barrettsfloyd Just for comparative info, and to help you judge how to set up your Skyrim - am running a Sapphire 7900 xtx w/24 gb on it.  My display is 3840x2160, and I run texture enhancements, mostly the downscaled 4x Pfuscher's stuff, and clothes/armor/skin textures.  Skyrim Performance Monitor shows up to 18+ gb used on the card, and another 10+ gb of shared memory, but my card is pretty much coasting otherwise.  So, watch out for your memory load when deciding what/how to 'prettify' your game...

Skyrim and Fallout 4 I'm not really worried about, it's TES VI that the new pc will need to run. My current 13 year old Sandy Bridge cpu (i7 2600k + GTX 780 Ti GPU) run Skyrim and FO4 just fine...well, until about 6-7 months ago when it started stuttering and randomly crashing (the pc crashes. I had to stop gaming because of this).

 

At any rate, I have what I believe I need on order. The case for the new build should hopefully fit everything. The measurements I've seen seem to indicate everything will fit. This is it here.