imprimis432 Posted August 21 Author Share Posted August 21 Sorry for suggesting the method could be more practical and asking specifically why it is seemingly randomly choosing when a mod is empty and reinstalling it fixes it, until it decides to be empty again. Just annoying having to reinstall 300+ mods, glad I don't have 3000 like some, all I did was click purge to try and clean things up from previously 'removed' mods. My mistake, I'm poor and can't afford to void my warranty by replacing the internal drive and can't afford to buy another external drive to format to ntfs format, I just tried to get to the bottom of why it was doing the 'empty' thing and wasn't expecting to have the foreknowledge that I should have known to have formatted to ntfs format my external drive first for the sake of Vortex, the only tool I have amongst many modding tools that has this specific requirement. I guess as it will soon be obsolete there is now no longer any point stressing over Vortex and find tools that do the same job without the need for being installed on the internal drive or formatting my external drive. Tis' only for Skyrim, not worth the hoops and requirements when I feel it could be handled in a more practical manner as I have dabbled with tool making myself using the zlib.dll and never had issues making a mod folder handled without overwriting the game files (different games), I guess this is just another dumpster fire of an attempt to play modded Skyrim without using Bethesdas sub-par creation club ways. You can delete the thread if you wish, I won't ask for help again, I guess Vortex is for those having foresight and money to just upgrade drives on a whim to meet the requirements of a single tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortexposer Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 (edited) Heh. Usvfs only supports ntfs and no other filesystems. Reformatting drive doesn't have to be such a big ordeal yo. Edited August 21 by vortexposer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChemBoy1 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 1 hour ago, vortexposer said: Heh. Usvfs only supports ntfs and no other filesystems. Reformatting drive doesn't have to be such a big ordeal yo. Exactly. It takes 30 seconds to format a drive in Windows to NTFS. Of course, you will lose the data on the drive. @imprimis432 - You probably should have done some research before installing programs and all kinds of data in Windows to an external drive without formatting it to NTFS. Don't blame others and throw fits because you didn't understand what you were doing. Also, internal drives are almost always cheaper than external ones because they don't need to come with a USB controller and other hardware. If you claim you are limited on funds, then I doubt your PC is so expensive as to be concerned with "voiding the warranty" to replace the drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showler Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 Unless the drive is full they should be able to resize the current partition without losing any data and make a new partition that uses NTFS. Then they can transfer the data over to the new partition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imprimis432 Posted August 21 Author Share Posted August 21 3 of 4 tbs of data used, yeah I can't reformat, its not a 30 second easy job at all when I don't want to lose all my other stuff for the sake of Vortex being awkward. I will just cut my losses on this, the main issue I wanted help on was why the 'empty' was seemingly just random and I dread ever catching that purge button, if I do its reinstall everything time again. Thanks anyway to those who explained the issue without the useless advice to just expect me to wipe all my data for the sake of 1 modding tool being awkward amongst MANY tools I've used without issues. I will heed the warning that soon Vortex will be completely useless to me and just go back to good old manual methods which to be honest seem less hassle given all the time taken reinstalling everything when all my mod folders decide they no longer want to have any content in the folders. Lesson learnt, don't ask for practical advice for a software to handle things better and instead expect to change all your hardware setup and wipe your entire drive to pander to one tool, no thanks, I will just manually install and if needs be create custom tools working with xml scripts and the zlib.dll that work with LOOT without the bizarre need for being on the internal drive or it needing to be a set format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showler Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 I think you are taking this too harshly. It is a pity that the move method never worked reliably, but my experience at least has been that Vortex's reliance on NTFS has been pretty well noted. It uses a Windows function that is only available with that file system. If you can't use NTFS then, yes, Vortex isn't the right choice for you. But that doesn't make it bad software. Last year it stopped working on older versions of Windows as well. People who can't update can't use recent versions. That doesn't make it bad software either. Just not the right software for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7531Leonidas Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 @imprimis432Have you looked closely at your Skyrim installation, and the Vortex installation? Even with running over 1500 mods, and having over 5000 files in the Vortex d/l folder, my total installation is well below 1 TB, not even 900 gigs. If you used only ~500-650 GB of your available room on your external drive to set up an NTFS partition, you could install/move both Skyrim and Vortex on that partition and run it the way it was intended to be run with hardlinks. Then, you could free up the space on your original partition by completely deleting the Skyrim and Vortex stuff. I bet that you don't even have 250 GB of data involved in both Skyrim and Vortex, which would make it even easier... WRT the NTFS requirement, that was due to using the VFS that was needed to allow Skyrim to be run w/o having to run Vortex in the background. Or, you could just go with MO2 and have it running in the background when you run a modded Skyrim. Either of these choices seem less involved than creating your own tools and shaking your fist at several groups of developers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imprimis432 Posted August 22 Author Share Posted August 22 It's okay, I will figure something out, I think maybe I could scrape together to buy a 3tb external harddrive (cheapo non-ssd) then transfer everything to that, reformat the ssd to ntfs and copy it all back over. When I bought the drive I was convinced to leave it as exFat after a lot of googling and was swayed by talk of more stability faster r/w speeds and reliability, clearly I shouldn't have believed that and gone with my gut instinct when I first attached the thing and was ready to habitually format to NTFS but as I was moving over from the old mechanical drives to SSD I was unsure which is what lead me to googling. In the meantime I will grin and bear the random emptying of the folders, I don't know why it does it, I don't understand the benefits of syslinks over just having a mods folder that the zips could empty into and have scripts that determine which order the files should be copied over, clearly its all over my head on why this is the method used so I will trust its just a better method and ride the tide. I know writing a bunch of little programs to unzip and sift through the mods is impractical and will likely just mean I run into other issues when it comes to prioritising files to carry across, I've done it before but knowing Skyrim and the joys of the nightmare of patches and fixes all over the place I doubt I will have the patience to tackle handling that part of things either. I will get there in the end....this time....I think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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