Publisher-Approved Paid Modding Policy

[Kant3n]

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Patches for/Dependencies on Paid Mods: We will not allow any patches or addons for user-generated content that requires payment to unlock (this specifically excludes DLCs offered by the developer - including DLCs that bundle items previously sold individually such as Skyrim's Anniversary Upgrade). Equally, if a mod uploaded to the site requires a paid mod to function, it will not be permitted. 

Yeah, no, I was with you until this part.

You need to immediately go back to the drawing board and consider how insulting this is to users.

You just told everybody that owns or is working on patches for East Empire Expansion and Bards College Expansion, two acclaimed Creations that you will occasionally see described as the "only two Creations worth a crap", to kick rocks. This also seems to ban mod authors from bundling compatibility patches in with their own works too, which is an extremely petty stance to take.

Here's what's going to happen:

1. People's load orders will be screwed overnight because you ripped the compatibility rug out from underneath them. Compatibility patches are a necessary reality of all modding. Many of those will be Premium users that will likely be considering changing their subscriber status if you sabotage their load orders out of pettiness.

2. Mod authors are going to be hounded more and more why their mod doesn't have a patch for something. They may literally have the patch on their desktop but are banned from releasing it because Nexus said so.

3. Absolutely nothing will change, Bethesda will continue trying to peddle trash and Nexus made the users into collateral damage while making life more absolute hell than before for mod authors.

The fact this is even being considered is showing how out of touch Nexus is with their community. Rip this thing out immediately and restart.

[CSEPteam]

1 hour ago, elpuertorro said:

So Nexus has to let Beth pimp the creators (that split is not fair at all) and get the money without seeing any benefit for Nexus? And on top let them use the Nexus to host for free the fixes/patches for their stuff so it keeps selling, hell no!

Nexus doesn't own mod authors, they're people with free will that can go wherever they want.

[Chernobylite12]

As someone with a paid lifetime membership, this is a terrible decision that does nothing but hurt mod users and disincentivives good mods from being released on CC ( which face it is here to stay whether or not we like it) 

the issue specifically lies in disallowing patches, I don't have any issue with disallowing 'lite' versions of things (had anyone done this? Was this a thing) but going "you can't host patches for paid content" is just a way to hurt players.

While the issue hasn't really presented itself in either FO4 or Starfield yet, skyrim is pretty well known to have massive modlists - with mods sometimes requiring 10s of patches, for which the only feasible way to install them was through fomods which you can't get via the CC store.  With this decision nexus has basically said that I don't have the option of installing something like Kinggaths bard mod with my mod list because the patches it requires will no longer be available to me. 

Conversely, if someone is inspired to create an addon for one of those mods - they have to release it solely on CC store which is a pretty miserable place to find things on.

This feels like someone using a sledge hammer to build a picture frame.

[FrumpyBadger]

7 minutes ago, elpuertorro said:

They can not is a RULE if you want to join the program, there is no if's and's or but's about it, look a few post back, I quoted the main ones for this topic from their page.

Assuming this is actually the case (which I have no reason to doubt) it would have cost Nexus leadership absolutely nothing to make it clear as such in this very statement. The fact that they haven't and have chosen to position it as being the most "consumer friendly" option, while in the same breath painting modders who participate in programs whereby they receive compensation for their work as crossing some kind of 'picket line', raises an eyebrow.

[elpuertorro]

26 minutes ago, Sable17 said:

Are you under the impression that Nexus is non-profit and they don't make money off of the free labor of authors?

No but at least they try to figure ways to get them paid by allowing us to post Patreon and Ko-Fi links so to get tips directly, and/or by the points system that can be redeemed for a number of things including cashing out with Paypal.
I'm sorry but in my book that beats the hell out of only get 30% and then make it more difficult as you can't use any other tools only the Beth assets and CC for it.

[trainwiz]

2 minutes ago, FrumpyBadger said:

Assuming this is actually the case (which I have no reason to doubt) it would have cost Nexus leadership absolutely nothing to make it clear as such in this very statement. The fact that they haven't and have chosen to position it as being the most "consumer friendly" option, while in the same breath painting modders who participate in programs whereby they receive compensation for their work as crossing some kind of 'picket line', raises an eyebrow.

I mean if they had applied this as a blanket ban to any patches or mods that depend on paid mods, it'd actually be a principled stand against what they're supposed against. But the fact that it's a-okay if it's the billion dollar corporation providing those paid mods (the same one they're supposedly taking the  aforementioned stance against) and the entire policy is applied arbitrarily, it sounds less like supporting the community and more like doing the bare performative minimum to get accolades. You know, hypocrisy. 

[showler]

It is not the case.

To be clear, a Verified Creator is allowed to release free content if they wish.

A Verified Creator is explicitly allowed to release that free content on other sites if they wish.

And free content CAN have dependencies.  There is literally a field you can fill out on the mod page that is titled "Required Dependencies".

[MadMonkey119]

Not allowing patches for Premium Creations is, in my opinion, a slap in the face to the Mod Authors (who have most likely been uploading to the Nexus for years), to the person that makes the patch, to the end user who wants a better gaming experience. Terrible decision IMO. Simply allow the tagging/filtering system to filter mods relying on paid Creations.

[trainwiz]

2 minutes ago, MadMonkey119 said:

Not allowing patches for Premium Creations is, in my opinion, a slap in the face to the Mod Authors (who have most likely been uploading to the Nexus for years), to the person that makes the patch, to the end user who wants a better gaming experience. Terrible decision IMO. Simply allow the tagging/filtering system to filter mods relying on paid Creations.

It already does.

[MadMonkey119]

2 minutes ago, trainwiz said:

It already does.

Then why not allow the patches if the end user can filter for themselves? It would be like banning adult content rather than just allowing people to set filters for what they would like to browse.