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"cyclic rules" except there aren't


Dregg97
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Hello, I'm encountering a problem. I'm modding Skyrim, and I want a specific mod (armor_perk_fix) to load after another one (correctif cutting room floor). So I create a new rule and sort the plugins but I get the "plugins not sorted because of cyclic rules" message. The problem is that there are no cyclic rules ! There is only one rule (A must load after B). But it keeps telling me there are cyclic rules even if I delete the rules and create just one rule again. And I get the same message every time I try to create a rule involving armor_perk_fix. How I can I fix that ?

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On 11/7/2024 at 10:30 AM, vortexposer said:

An .esl master can't be set to load after .esp

What exactly is a master ? And how do you know whether a plugin is a master or not ?

Also, if it can't load after a .esp, why can skyrim_armor_perk_fix.esl load after unofficial skyrim special edition patch.esp ?

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.esl files are treated as master files (or .esm) by the game system, esp-fe are treated as .esp files by the sorting rules, and there are some few mods that have both an .esm and .esp (or esp-fe) included together in the mod, to work around load order problems.

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19 hours ago, Dregg97 said:

What exactly is a master ? And how do you know whether a plugin is a master or not ?

Also, if it can't load after a .esp, why can skyrim_armor_perk_fix.esl load after unofficial skyrim special edition patch.esp ?

To rephrase what has been said above:

.esm files are masters

.esl files are (light) masters

However, a .esp file can be any combination of master/not master, light/not light.

So while you can be sure that a .esm or .esl file is a master, for a .esp file you need to consult the flags column inside Vortex.

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