Mod Browsing Overhaul Discussion

[Demorphic]

8 minutes ago, BilloftheFalls said:

Are you, though? Are you really?

Seems like it's leaning more towards 'not really' and 'damage control' if the previous hundreds of messages in this thread, including my own two posts on this forum, the most recent of which (30 minutes ago) has magically disappeared after being up for all of 15 minutes, are anything to go by.

In your first post: "Please tell me there's a classic UI option I'm not noticing so that I can switch off of this godawful UI that's been foisted upon my eyes."

Your objection to the update has been noted. Your second post did not expand upon this and was more abusive and was removed. If you can add some more detail about the recent changes, it would be really useful. If not, then thanks for your initial feedback.

[ortext]

12 minutes ago, BilloftheFalls said:

Are you, though? Are you really?

Seems like it's leaning more towards 'not really' and 'damage control' if the previous hundreds of messages in this thread, including my own two posts on this forum, the most recent of which (30 minutes ago) has magically disappeared after being up for all of 15 minutes, are anything to go by.

Agreed... And the amount of reasons to not listen to main issue people are upset about. are to say not surprising anymore..

 

They lost their way.

[pilonexyz]

19 hours ago, pilonexyz said:

Tweaked the internal mod page to be very close to the old UI.

Get the code here:

https://pixeldrain.com/u/3WxTA3nF

Quick fix for the file download tab colors, new code here:

https://pixeldrain.com/u/jafuitLQ

Restored all the missing button hover color animations and fixed the buttons in the posts tab.

Here's the code:

https://pixeldrain.com/u/QtnWNaa5  (for 1 row title in mods list page)

https://pixeldrain.com/u/eQfpjfuz (for 2 rows title in mods list page)

Edited Friday at 01:48 PM by pilonexyz

[mike9k1]

Demorphic- really appreciate your update here and i'm looking forward to the news update on Monday.

While i'm one of the many who have provided negative feedback, I am sympathetic towards the team members who have to sort through some of the 'impassioned' comments they've no doubt received.

2 hours ago, Demorphic said:

clearing away so much technical debt and accumulated issues with the site.

This is an ongoing theme I've seen mentioned throughout previous updates. It sounds like the old site backend was very difficult to work with. *(and i'm assuming this is one big reason the old site is not coming back)

I deeply hope that some of the changes made to the site ultimately mean improved scalability and adding functionality (back) won't be so much of a hassle for the Nexus team.

33 minutes ago, Demorphic said:

During this release we have collected HotJar feedback from multiple survey pulses from thousands of users

I do want to address that I never had the opportunity to provide any feedback prior to this change. Over the past month, I've been spending far more time working on mods than I do on the site - I had a very brief window to try the Beta, and I did, but had to immediately switch back to the classic site to be able to quickly respond to users, upload files, address bugs, etc.

I never got the chance to go back and fill out any survey and before I knew it, the new design was rolled out site-wide and I had no chance to adjust my workflow beforehand.

I can only imagine that i'm not the only mod author in that position. 

Edited Friday at 01:46 PM by mike9k1

[BilloftheFalls]

3 minutes ago, Demorphic said:

If you can add some more detail about the recent changes, it would be really useful. If not, then thanks for your initial feedback.

What more do I need to expand upon to you for it to be evident?

The new UI is godawful; I dislike the new UI, and I view it as an affront to the eyes in my eyesockets.

I said in my second post, where I did in fact expand upon my dislike and affronting of said UI, to give your consumer base the ability of choice in whether or not they want to use this new UI or not by allowing them to switch between the two.

I fail to see how this isn't a simple solution to a very evident and ongoing problem unless your team intentionally went through and butchered your backend, making it an impossibility for you to back out of this if it somehow goes even worse than it's already gone.

 

[xRay4004]

19 minutes ago, pilonexyz said:

Restored all the missing button hover color animations and fixed the buttons in the posts tab.

Here's the code:

https://pixeldrain.com/u/QtnWNaa5  (for 1 row title in mods list page)

https://pixeldrain.com/u/eQfpjfuz (for 2 rows title in mods list page)

WOW, I really love what you did to the modpage layout and colors especially the background picture not having it just black is such a mood uplift, though kinda disliking the main mod browser page. I think I might have to learn how to put best stylus sheets I've seen in here together to get what I like/ what it used to look before.
Anyhow great work.

[showler]

They are still displayed immediately on the same page.  The result box is just bigger.

[BilloftheFalls]

41 minutes ago, Demorphic said:

Your objection to the update has been noted. Your second post did not expand upon this and was more abusive and was removed.

And just to add, if my calling you and your fellows out on some real evident bush beating is somehow an abusive notion to you, then I'll try my best here to put it in a more polite fashion.

Everything that has happened here. From the supposed disorganisation of feedback to the poor reception, it could've been easily avoided if you, your boss and your fellow employees had decided at any point before starting on this voyage to consider the following: Is this a thing we've actually thought through? Are we prepared to put actual time and resources into this in a manner that would benefit all parties?

You all then could've held actual polls on sites where people such as myself could've actually seen it. You then could've communicated through threads and said polls that could've been made in preparation for this, where massive changes such could've been discussed and digested down into its separate parts properly and thoroughly.

And then after all that would you start working towards making it into an actuality. You seemingly have not done that if this thread is anything to go by, and let me tell you, from the outside looking in, this appears to have been a titanic f*#@up where no one, not even the captain of this ship, bothered to notice or care about the giant iceberg said ship was going to hit and didn't bother trying to course correct.

Now that the ship has been hit and is going down at the head, you pop in the lifeboat and say, "Oh, but we worked so hard, and we're only human," while the passengers of the ship drown in the sea of ineptitude.

I would hope you can see how this would rub people the wrong way.

Edited Friday at 02:20 PM by BilloftheFalls

[pilonexyz]

40 minutes ago, xRay4004 said:

WOW, I really love what you did to the modpage layout and colors especially the background picture not having it just black is such a mood uplift, though kinda disliking the main mod browser page. I think I might have to learn how to put best stylus sheets I've seen in here together to get what I like/ what it used to look before.
Anyhow great work.

Mod list is not definitive but is not possible to get the exact old UI without modify the structure behind, devs made the things harder to modify here.

It's also very subjective to personal taste, i will try to improve it for sure.

Edit:

Great news, i'm in the process to merge jmharris NexusMods classic theme into my code, great results so far, also i will tweak it more to appear like the real old UI you can see using Wayback Machine.

 

Edited Friday at 02:53 PM by pilonexyz

[HeyYou]

1 hour ago, Demorphic said:

During this release we have collected HotJar feedback from multiple survey pulses from thousands of users, with more to come after further improvements. We've been running ongoing focus groups through Discord and multiple user interviews. The release was preceded by a beta period with a steadily ramping number of users, whilst fixing emergent issues and monitoring usage data. This has been done while continuing to serve close to 400 million mod downloads over the last 4 weeks and over 16k TB of data.

While there's room to keep improving, 75% of respondents to our last post-launch survey rated the pages 3-5 stars. With change always comes a period of adjustment, and we are committed to keep listening to your feedback and improving our services.

75% rated it 3-5 stars? Out of how many? 10?

 

I'm sorry, but, I do believe your data is seriously flawed, given that responses HERE, are pretty much universally NEGATIVE. How do you explain that??